/r/gaming mods are deleting every comment that is made on one of their top posts that about a topic that reddit is suppressing. (self.SubredditDrama)
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/r/gaming mods are deleting the comments from a thread about the scandal summarized below:
Summary:
Woman (Quinn) makes a flash based game (more of one of those text based choose your own adventure things) about battling depression
The game receives critical acclaim from gaming journalist websites, and makes its way onto Steam
Quinn's ex boyfriend releases chat logs about her cheating on him with various men
Some of these men are key players in gaming journalism, and are responsible for the positive press Quinn's game received
Mods of gaming forums including /r/gaming, /r/Games and 4chan's /v/ are removing all traces of this drama. At least one mod from /r/gaming talked to Quinn on Twitter beforehand.
Edit: /r/gaming made a mod post about it. It's not being received well at all.
Sorry /u/pocl13. The mods made me steal your comment.
3445 comments submitted at 13:39:55 on Aug 19, 2014 by newuser13
Well, this is going to be a nice test of just how SJWish srd has become.
Here is my prediction: the game developer is not a nice person, but the incoming tsunamis of rape threats coming her way are still indicative of a larger problem in the gaming community.
The gaming community has a huge problem with sexism, the woman in the OP seems like she's fucked around to gain power and doesn't like that being exposed. The two don't really have anything to do with each other.
The gaming community is sexist as fuck and women are people too so do things that are morally sketchy for money and prestige.
I don't like this. It's too reasonable. I really don't like this. It's killing my buzz, man.
I think you two are saying the same thing, but emphasizing different parts. Let's try this, it sounds like she's a terrible person whose actions have tainted her professional and personal lives and will hopefully suffer serious consequences from it, but no one deserves an all out witch hunt with death threats, nude pictures, and all the other associated tom-foolery that comes with a witch hunt.
she's basically using feminist issues in gaming to distract from the fact that she is an abusive RAPIST and it is so disgusting
>distract from the back that she is an abusive RAPIST
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*fact haha sorry
That's not what I was querying, how is she a rapist?
because she told her boyfriend that if someone cheats in a relationship, then that violates the terms of her consent to have sex with that person. she only consents to have sex with her boyfriend on the condition that they remain exclusive. she then has sex with other people without telling him, violating the terms of his consent. she had sex with him while knowingly violating the terms of his consent and thus she had sex with him without his consent, which is rape.
not everyone will have the same conditions of consent obviously, but these are ones that she put in place so she knowingly raped her boyfriend.
That kinda sounds totally insane from her part and I don't think it'd actually stand up as rape in a court but I see where you're coming from.
it wouldn't, and I wouldn't call it rape if it weren't for the fact that she explicitly established those conditions of consent. but she did and then deliberately violated them multiple times, all the while emotionally abusing the poor man. it makes me sick that someone like that is supposed to be "one of the strongest voices for equality in videogames"
Where exactly are these "tsunamis of rape threats" going to come from? I've check the /v/, /pol/ and TiA threads about this and it doesn't seem to have happened so far... or will this be pinned on the vulnerable depressed people at Wizardchan again?
W-wizard chan? I'm trying to go through this thread but there's just too much. What happened to Wizardchan!?
She claimed Wizardchan raided her with harassment. This is now generally believed to have been a lie.
Unfortunately pretty much everyone gets death/rape threats.
I get death threats just from not responding to messages on okcupid. I didn't even have to create a game or cheat on anyone.
No doubt she will overexaggerate the number though. If she really did sleep around to get good reviews she needs to try to cover that up by being a victim.
If you don't keep sharing your opinion on Reddit I will respect you as a human being.
Do you feel better?
wat
Remember when a Bioware game dev suggested that she liked playing games for the story and got a tsunami of rape threats?
http://kotaku.com/5886674/bioware-writer-describes-her-gaming-tastes-angry-gamers-call-her-a-cancer
Linking to a Kotaku article to strengthen your argument is probably not the best idea considering they are implicated in all this.
The word "rape" does not appear in the article.
Probably the Warlizard Gaming Forum. I believe there is a pretty famous dude here on Reddit that started it.
They're going to come from everywhere where this is big news, if they come at all. It's the unfortunate nature of The Internet.
This is precisely it. If the allegations are true then I can't defend what she's done but the amount of hate directed at her is disproportionate. I like video games but the community is frankly embarrassing.
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Nobody's giving her a free pass. She may have fucked up, but that doesn't change that she was right about sexism in the industry, and that she doesn't deserve to be treated in a sexist way now.
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>she's allegedly been known to fabricate stories of harassment
Careful, she'll see that and call it harassment...
I'm not sure we can describe the reaction as sexist. If this were a male developer provably cheating repeatedly, he'd probably get some death threats and definitely be called every expletive people can think of.
A) I actually really doubt that. Notice that the entirety of the vitriol is falling on her. But where's the anger towards the men she slept with? It takes two to tango. Hell, I'd argue that they're actually the wrongdoers here, because if the narrative is correct they were the ones lowering their journalistic standards/giving out good reviews/etc.
B) Even if he were met with anger, I'd bet it still wouldn't be sexist vitriol. People might call him an asshole, but would they openly question whether this undermines the arguments he and other men in the industry about, say, the depiction of men as being insatiably lustful? No, they'd just say "He's an asshole."
Relevant xkcd
> But where's the anger towards the men she slept with? It takes two to tango.
People are mad at them too. I've already read multiple blog posts about Kotaku. and a Youtube video mostly talking about the gaming press.
I doubt there would be angry nude posting and critique of how her ass looks, though. See above in this post.
If the guy had posted nudes on the Internet, I'd bet there would be. There's be plenty of posts critiquing his figure, whether he was attractive enough to have gotten those women to sleep with him, and implying his penis was unsatisfactory.
Because you replied this to strugle it looks like you're defending the "tsunamis of rape threats".
Which would be super shitty. No one deserves rape threats. I don't think you're actually doing that but it kinda looks that way.
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So...you're saying she shouldn't care about any rape or death threats?
I'm just having trouble understanding what your point is, because it seems like you're dismissing the reaction as being deserved. It's kinda like saying, "Nobody should give a fuck about the looters who are burning down gas stations because the focus should just be on a kid getting shot."
I mean, yeah, sure, at the end of everything, the incident that sparked it needs to be looked at critically. But while the chaos is ongoing, it should probably be addressed that witch-hunting, doxxing, and terroristic threats are absolutely not an acceptable response and trying to dismiss all of that and focus back on the initial person is just encouraging the continuation of the hunting, doxxing, and threatening. Because, really, you're wanting the chaos to continue until the person at the center does...I dunno...something? Bakes a cake?
Not to mention, the focus is SOLELY on this one person, instead of also all of the alleged journalists that allegedly broke integrity. Why aren't they getting doxxed and hunted and threatened as well? Why isn't anyone talking about them?
I'll tell you why: because, at the end of the day, rational discussion and critical thinking is beyond the grasp of a community largely made up of teenagers and young adults who just want to feel angry and righteous and make someone else feel bad.
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Whatever mate. Enjoy your witch-hunt, it'll do wonders to make gaming and games journalism be taken seriously when all anyone sees is a bunch of cunts slinging shit in the wrong direction. Have fun ruining a bunch of lives over hearsay and rumors and hope the wrath of the hivemind never falls on you.
Girl bye
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>You dont get to steer the conversation about your actions to the reaction just because you dont want to talk about your actions. Thats seen as an admission of guilt due to a lack of defense
Uh...I did say I didn't think you were defending the rape threats.
I wasn't employing a strategy for anything. You asked why the downvotes (although you've edited it now) and I offered an explanation.
Jesus.
Yeah, it's pretty unfortunate.
Reasonable discussion on the issue is going to be seriously offset by 4chan's bullshit.
I think it's a little ironic that she's so upset about rape threats when she is a rapist herself, by her own standards
not that rape threats are ever ok or justified in any way but it really fucking bothers me that all she wants to talk about is how horrible the gaming community is to her but not address the fact that she RAPED her ex multiple times. I really don't understand how anyone can defend her. I am a feminist and I was a fan of her but what I read was abusive and fucking disgusting and I cannot support someone like that.
She made them all up. No one is sending her rape threats but she made it seem like they were harassing her to get publicity.
Wait, tsunami of rape threats? I seem to have missed those.
Did your mother ever tell you;
"The more you show it upsets you the more the bullies will do it"?
Or were you told to just run and tell the teacher? Depriving you of developing any real coping mechanisms with which to deal with the world.
You're right, we should just ignore problems instead of trying to fix them.
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Posted on the internet, emailed to her, texted to her phone numbers, texted to the phone numbers of her friends, relayed in person to her roommates by people claiming to be 'from the internet', all harmless.
The lady is a cunt if the allegations are true. I remember reading a post a while back of her ex who had a tumblr blog devoted to saving evidence of her infidelity against him. She apparently slept around while they were dating and also in the "working things out " phase and blamed him for not accepting who she was. I took a bit of time to see the kind of ish she posts on her twitter and it was all about equality this and ethics that. Quite a hypocrite she is.
IIRC she spouted the whole "MY BODY DOESN'T BELONG TO ANYONE BUT ME" drivel
I think the logic is "I can do what I want and you should not criticize me for that"
Fair enough. But bloody hell even if you're going to fuck your way to the top, the gaming industry is one of the worst places to do such a thing. And at that point, you need to recall your righteous artillery as you've lost the moral high ground.
Really? For some reason I feel like the gaming industry is the perfect place to sleep your way to the top. Maybe I'm thinking of the gaming community though.
Yeah indie devs are just like gamers, flash some minge and they all bow down. With other industries (acting, modeling, etc) there are already so many woman trying to bang their way to the top that you're not going to succeed unless you're really attractive and willing to bang literally anybody. With indie game devs / reviewers there isn't much competition so she can get much farther with much less effort.
What's at the top of the gaming industry though? Like, a job at a big studio? I don't imagine it is all that lucrative.
Well she did just sleep her way to the top of the gaming community. That doesn't mean a lot for AAA game companies nor your average consumer. It just means the Indie scene is well aware of her and the same goes for those who frequent gaming news sites.
No one's gonna be a winner here.
the gamcornmunoty.com?
>And at that point, you need to recall your righteous artillery as you've lost the moral high ground.
That's fantastic advice for people who get caught. People who just own up and ask forgiveness are usually treated better in the long run.
Although god knows if that decency applies to the internet.
> "I can do what I want and you should not criticize me for that"
No that's not how the world works. The last time I heard someone say something like that it was my 6 year old niece...
We're talking about sexuality. I meant that she can fuck who ever she wants and we have no right to call her a slut. But what should be of concern is the people they are and how connected they are to her professional life. That is just inviting criticism.
Nah. If you cheat on your boyfriend with five guys, you're a slut.
I mean, if you are prepared to sleep your way to the top, why choose the gaming industry? I'm sure if you looked into it there'd be a lot more lucrative sleeping-up industries. Unless she wanted to make the game anyway and then sleep around to get it big, I don't know enough to comment beyond this.
>the gaming industry is one of the worst places to do such a thing
Seriously, why not choose a more lucrative industry, like oil or blood diamonds?
> "I can do what I want and you should not criticize me for that"
But if I criticize someone, isn't that me doing what I want? :)
Except that line of thinking is fucking stupid. Your actions are open to scrutiny the moment they hurt other people. She betrayed the trust of her partner and caused some strong emotional damage.
It wouldn't be drivel if that's literally there is to the situation.
But there's more going on. That's the real problem.
There is nothing wrong with that opinion as long as they respect the fact that a man doesn't necessarily want to share the place he puts his wang.
It's true! But we can criticize what you do with your body.
"I don't make mistakes, everybody else does!"
Why is she solely the beacon of blame instead of the journalists who went along with it? Why witch hunt her when it took two or more to tango?
I have no answer to that and your points are fair. The blame should be shared.
I don't think she's solely to blame but she does seem to be the spoke of the wheel which would be fair reasoning for the focus. Not that the focus is justified or not, I really don't care as I'm mostly here for the buttery goodness.
Did the Kotaku writer actually make a favourable review? I never bothered following up on that and going through his articles.
six in fact
"A Tumblr of Infidelity"
Someone's personal, private sexuality has nothing to do with a campaign for social equality. MLK slept around, does that diminish his calls for civil rights? These are in no way related.
The conflict of interests between a artist and critic is a different matter as well.
Cheating and non-disclosed conflict of interests are bad, but slut shaming, doxing, and you know threatening to rape and kill are much worse. Some game creator may have slept with some reviewers who may have posted supporting content on their shitty insignificant corner of the internet? Well, we better torch them down.
After all games, and game reviews, are serious business! /s
Are you fucking serious. > After all games, and game reviews, are serious business! /s
Yes they fucking are serious business, you know, for the people who make their fucking living from it. Jesus Christ. Get off your high horse. And please. Show some proof of the doxxing and the phone calls. And the rape threats. There is no proof that any of that happened and until there is. I just can't believe it. Especially not the fact that it came from wizardchan
No that is wrong. Someone's personal private sexuality has nothing to do with it , sure. But bloody fucking hell the ethics are sure fucked up. If you feel you want to climb the ladder of chaos by sleeping your way to the top, then go for it. But don't turn around and campaign about "ethics and morals" especially focused on the same issue of sex and gender because you have lost all footing. If MLK was a prejudiced and secretly racist man, I would agreewith you.
In response to your edit: Yes, doxxing and threats are a terrible way to handle the situation. Slut shaming should also not be tolerated. The fact should not be that she slept around, it should be about the conflict of interests. Who she sleeps with is her business, except when it involves her professional life.
> the ladder of chaos
Nice subtle GoT reference.
Oh so she slept her way to the top? To the top of what? To nerd fucking mountain? What a wonderful place to be, I'm sure her life is infinitely better because of it.
Do you know the inner workings of those relationships? Do we know she was granted power and prestige for her sexuality? People get into relationships with colleagues, that does not mean everything they accomplished is reliant on that specific romantic relationship.
You keep using ethics and morality as if you had some sort of authority to decide how her sexuality and private relationships should operate. It doesn't matter as long as it is disclosed.
Feminist arguments have nothing to do with cheating or fidelity. They're arguing for ownerhsip and agency of their own sexuality, which you are denying by slut shaming, as if sexual relations among consenting adults make her vile. The truth is, you don't fucking know about her relationship and you have no right to know.
The only mistake she made is not revealing possible conflicts of interest between participants, but then again how much journalistic integrity does games criticism have anyway?
DORITOS AND MONEY AND PARTIES AND KAIN AND LYNCH BANNER ADS AND FREE CONSOLES BUT DON'T FUCK MY REVIEWER CHEATING IS THE WORST.
Calm down mate. We're discussing as friends not debating like enemies. The whole sleeping with reviewers and associates does not bode well no matter how you try to paint it.
The inner workings of the relationships, I do not know. At the same time the onus is on her as a goddamn grown up to know what the fuck her actions could be perceived as especially considering the fact that she puts herself out there as both a champion of ethics and morals. You can bury your head in the sand and say what you will, but that is not the way professional world works. If you can't be fucking arsed to keep your professional relationships professional then be prepared for criticsim especially after you take a stance against "infidelity". She cheated on her now ex during most of the sexcapades and that was part of how this got out.
> Feminist arguments have nothing to do with cheating or fidelity. They're arguing for ownerhsip and agency of their own sexuality, which you are denying by slut shaming, as if sexual relations among consenting adults make her vile. The truth is, you don't fucking know about her relationship and you have right to know.
She fukcing has ownership of her sexuality. Nowhere did I say she is a whore or a slut for sleeping around. Fucking hell I even said if she's going to sleep her way to the top, that is fine. But the self proselytizing does not look good especially considering the sheer hypocrisy between her words and actions.
> The only mistake she made is not revealing possible conflicts of interest between participants, but then again how much journalistic integrity does games criticism have anyway?
The only mistake she made was being a goddamned fucking hypocrite and not being able to separate business from pleasure.
Where did she take a stance fidelity? I've only read her trans/feminist activism and discussions on depression. I see you use "ethics and morality" and I do not understand. If you can link me I will eat my words.
My concern is that people see a social justice advocate as an imperfect being, and then undermine that same advocacy.
If she was in a relationship with someone, she shouldn't really fuck around behind his back and manipulate him.
That's not what this is about. It all has to do with a conflict of interest. No one gives a shit if she cheats.
>Oh so she slept her way to the top? To the top of what? To nerd fucking mountain? What a wonderful place to be, I'm sure her life is infinitely better because of it.
What is this, 1998? Do you have any idea how much money there is in gaming these days?
I'm sure she's sitting on a gold mountain from all those depression themed visual novels steam moved at 2 dollars each.
You know, when I buy a depression themed visual novel, I really make sure to read all the reviews first. I don't buy art games unless they score 8/10 on IGN.
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Isn't her game free?
#WomenCanDoNoWrong
I never said what she did as wasn't wrong, I'm saying its not proportional to the outrage and response, nor do her actions undermine the causes she championed. I don't make moral arguments over other people's relationships or sexuality.
It was wrong for people with conflicts of interest to not disclose them, but that's the extent of it.
Your (possibly on purpose?) misspelling of Kane and Lynch has made me very disappointed that there is no "Legacy of Kain and Lynch" mashup image.
> only one thing can be bad at a time
Oh god this is gonna be one of those threads aint it? /r/Subredditdramadrama get ready.
This is the best thread in a long while, I am pleased!
All nastiness aside, she is accused of abusing the DCMA system to stifle criticism. That's ethically untoward.
>Someone's personal, private sexuality has nothing to do with a campaign for social equality. MLK slept around, does that diminish his calls for civil rights? These are in no way related.
She didn't sleep around. She emotionally abused her ex-partner. She paraded around claiming that cheating was a form of rape and then lo and behold, she cheated. Did you even read anything pertaining to this issue? Jfc
I don't care about the ownership of her sexuality or her body. That doesn't give her the right to hurt other innocent people - including sexually abuse some of them. That's it. That's all there is. Identity politics have gone batshit insane and I'm personally not surprised, you're probably of the ilk that adds "-play" after any heinous act and then defends it. Rapeplay, murderplay, pedoplay... what else? No. Your choices do not exist in a vacuum. If your choices are harmful towards others they deserve to be condemned and judged. If you emotionally abuse, sexually abuse, sexually assault both your partner and random people, you don't get to stand behind "w-w-well it's my body~"
A better simile would be if MLK called for civil rights and lynched white people in his free time.
Did you just compare conflicts of interest in video game reporting with lynching?
I dunno, did you just bring in MLK in a discussion about video game journalism?
I laughed out loud.
It was an example detailing how a person's personal failings do in no way undermine their advocacy, not a comparison of value.
>Cheating and non-disclosed conflict of interests are bad.
Wonderful that you think that.
>but slut shaming
Worse than cheating on your partner? No chance.
>doxing
Again, worse than cheating on your partner? This is debatable, and only because you can't know the reaction of the internet in so far as what they would do with this info.
>and you know threatening to rape and kill are much worse.
A truth, if true.
>Worse than cheating on your partner? No chance.
Were you the partner? Hmm, then maybe you have no fucking grounds to shame someone for cheating. People's relationships are private, messy, complicated affairs. Mutual friends have a hard enough time choosing sides, let alone random strangers on the internet judging your relationship.
>Again, worse than cheating on your partner? This is debatable, and only because you can't know the reaction of the internet in so far as what they would do with this info.
I know exactly what the internet will do with private information, mass publish it and ruin your life. Her cheating in her private relationship DOES NOT GRANT THE INTERNET THE RIGHT TO EXPOSE HER PRIVATE LIFE.
>and you know threatening to rape and kill are much worse.
Quinn and other women in the games industry get hourly death and rape threats on the regular for just daring to exist and participate in video games. I can only imagine the lengths those same ass holes, now fueled with self-righteousness because she may have cheated on a fellow neckbeard, will now go to harass her.
But I'm glad we agree that's a bad thing.
>Were you the partner? Hmm, then maybe you have no fucking grounds to shame someone for cheating.
I agree we don't know the whole story, but absent him saying "it's cool I don't mind" people are going to take sides. It's human nature. Just saying "well she didn't cheat on you" is kind of irrelevant.
>Mutual friends have a hard enough time choosing sides, let alone random strangers on the internet judging your relationship.
If one side clearly cheated? Friends take sides all the time, friends take sides when it's just a basic breakup unless they're really close to both. Otherwise they probably stick with who they were friends with before etc. And even then not knowing either makes it easier for people to choose. Again, humans like a villain. It's just human nature run amok here.
Does it mean people should threaten her or try to dox her? Absolutely not. That's ridiculous.
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> Someone's personal, private sexuality has nothing to do with a campaign for social equality.
Also, what? That shit doesn't have anything to do with her being an sjw or a campaign for equality. It has to do with her fucking her way into good reviews. That is the part that is being called into question, and it is just as much a problem with the journalists as it is with her.
I agree. I was responding to the above posts which were harping on how this was black eye in the mark of the "evil social justice warriors".
Fair enough I guess. I took of as you were saying it didn't apply in this situation. Which it clearly does. If people are doxxing her, that is obviously not good. But there isn't even definitive proof that they are.
Did you just compare this chick to freakin Martin Luther King????
Games and game reviews are a business and some people do try to unscrupulously fuck their way into an advantage in the world of business. It just happens to be embarrassing in this case that all the fucking was done to promote a reportedly unremarkable indie game.
Have you seen how self righteous she comes across on twitter and her blog?
If what her BF says is true, she sleeps with many men and then has unprotected sex with her BF and this repeatedly. And the men she slept with are not strangers but men that affect her career and even her entire team.
Sorry, but you can't really compare "people saying cheating on your significant other" to slut shaming. No one is shaming her for having sex, they're shaming her for being a horrible human being.
Utter nonsense from start to finish.
>slut shaming, doxing, and you know threatening to rape and kill are much worse.
raping your boyfriend is worse than all of that though.
Don't you think that it's really fucking weird that you just made a post judging the sexual history of a woman that you've never met based on a few things your read on her ex-boyfriends blog?
You contrast this with her views on equality and ethics that you found by spending "quite a bit of time" looking through her Twitter posts.
What are you doing with your life?
>The lady is a cunt if the allegations are true.
Did you skip the first bloody line I wrote?
Dude, you're like a tabloid newspaper that prints a smear story with a quick "allegedly" thrown in to get it past the lawyers.
>She apparently slept around while they were dating and also in the "working things out " phase and blamed him for not accepting who she was
This is the kind of thing that 14 year old girls throw about. Why would you write something like that?
> The lady is a cunt if the allegations are true.
So yes, you did skip the first line I wrote.
But that first line doesn't apply to anything you wrote after it. You're not discussing the allegations, you're using some spiteful blog written by her ex-boyfriend to judge her character.
I'm wondering why you're even doing that. This is an absolutely insane witch hunt. People will look back on this in a few months and say "remember all those weird guys raking through her online history in order to make themselves feel morally superior to her?"
> But that first line doesn't apply to anything you wrote after it
Only that after the first line, I talked about the allegations I was referring to. By that fucking logic, no one should discuss any rumours "because it's not her character". Your contrarian bullshit is not doing you any favours. I am not witch hunting her. If we can't judge someone's character from their actions then what the fuck do we have to go by?
Picky your battles.
>If we can't judge someone's character from their actions then what the fuck do we have to go by?
*from their ex-boyfriend's blog.
The plot thickens here.
https://twitter.com/cvankeeken/status/501747964789161985
*Of which there was photographic proof of exchanges that she has not denied. Neither have the gaming journalists involved. But please, go on.
I can only assume, like all of us, is that her "behavior" is indicative of some deeper issues. I actually feel bad for her. Regardless of what she might or might have not done, it's just plain shitty of people do release this kind of info.
Her twitter is fucking hilarious right now. Everyone is apparently "gaslighting" her.
Wow god for once I'm upvoting you. One day your box may be a faint shade of green.
Hey sometimes we have to kick back and point at crazier crazies than we are. Cheers.
>The lady is a cunt
How DARE you use that word as a derogatory term! /s
Seriously though, SRD has been a lot more SJW lately and this thread is gonna be controversial and I'm going to love it.
It's been more than lately. Id say going on year and a half now. The mods are more blatant about it too. Im gearing up for the popcorn as well here. When one their own feminists social justice warrior turns out to be a gaming corporate whore.
>When one their own feminists social justice warrior turns out to be a gaming corporate whore.
Allegedly. Or are we only allowed to use "allegedly" on the reddits for rape accusations?
Not on this one. I've been following this close enough to tell you that they have very very good reasons to delete posts relating to this topic. For a metaphorical summary, imagine an ocean warming itself around a candle. Also, dox. Lots of dox.
There is a legitimate reason to delete dox. But really, the story itself can't be censored for long, it involves journalists of a high profile media company doing things you absolutely, positively, should not do if you want to retain an ounce of credibility.
And it's not just a wild accusation. Unfortunately the evidence can not be linked to on reddit because it is full of dox.
I don't understand where the dox comes in. None of the parties involved operate under screen names do they? They're all ~~journalists~~ games writers and developers who are publicly known, releasing content under their own names.
/pol/ found her porn shoots
That's pretty shitty if she didn't do those under her real name.
there were under some screen name she is know to use
Not even I am dense enough to use the same username for gone wild posts and I've had the same email since I was 10.
Just another occasion to see reddit stupid policy on doxxing out in the light.
Wait, you think reddit is too light on doxing? Reddit certainly doesn't need it to be easier to witch-hunt, they have that shit refined to an art as it is
It's still very private information about them being released.
I guess so. It's not very private if you can find it just by googling their names that they've taken no steps to keep secret. I always thought of "doxxing" as removing somebody's anonymity without their consent, not just posting embarrassing things about them.
You're right. Embarrassing and private things that are relevant to your position in the public eye don't equal doxxing at all. Non-public addresses and phone numbers and other identifying info is doxxing.
I do have to ask where the line is on that. If reddit was around in the 90s, would they delete everything about the Clinton scandal since it was his private sex life? How about Hollywood stars? At what point is somebody famous enough that talking about their private sex lives not be considered doxing?
Edit: I recant my statement now that I know they posted phone numbers for her family members... that's fucked.
> I recant my statement now that I know they posted phone numbers for her family members... that's fucked.
Yea, that's why mods go into full damage control mode as soon as it gets a little witch hunt-y, people always take it wayyy too far when they're pissed
Precisely this
Maybe the evidence contains their personal email addresses? That would not be public information.
But the story was not deleted only the comments, and the comments is always where witch hunting starts
Wasn't even a real dox, she put that out there to deflect blame. It was a pretty shoddy imitation really, no idea who /V/ are. Maybe she meant /v/?
How are the phone numbers of family members not "real dox"?
I'm sure her grandma is thrilled to have a voice mailbox full of rape threats against her granddaughter, though.
These kinds of witch hunts are really awful.
Are we now expanding the definition of doxxing to include publishing information about people who do not actually hide their identities at all? That's like saying its doxxing if I post Robert Downey Jr.'s address.
And if any doxxing anywhere leads to complete censorship of a discussion (even parts of it unrelated to the doxxing) wouldn't that make it really easy to abuse? I don't like how people are criticizing me, so I'll dox myself and then no one one reddit can discuss it?
If this stuff is true: she sucks bad.
After all that practice one would think she sucks pretty good.
STOP OPPRESSING ME, SHITLORD
Especially the info that showed up about her sexually harrassing someone at a wedding. Let's see how much into anti-rape culture they are and how much anti-male rape culture they are.
She's not exactly a good person, but doxxing and death threats are never the right answer.
https://imgur.com/AIFJqkL
There's your answer.
Essentially "women bad, but also men very bad rape threats misogynist patriarchy sexism tech world long sentence" +300
I honestly expected them to just delete everything, so by me they passed.
This is the fourth post that I have seen here on the subject, all have been removed inside of five minutes. The coverup is here as well.
This is the first submission to not blatantly break numerous rules in our sidebar.
edit: also.. getting 20+ votes in the first 30 seconds ...... yeah.
I hope they like the smell of cupcakes.
Oh I hope a load of people get shadowbanned and they blame it on /r/gaming's mods or something like that. My dramawave sense is tingling.
>edit: also.. getting 20+ votes in the first 30 seconds ...... yeah.
So totally not being brigaded at all then!
Also the uncharacteristic voting patterns going on.
Yeah. I don't get upvoted here normally. Also, SRD was mentioned in a /v/ thread just a few minutes ago.
> Yeah. I don't get upvoted here normally.
I'm not trying to start anything, but you also don't generally contribute anything in good faith that isn't just complaining about the sub & the community, which makes it hard to compare your comments here (where you're contributing! & that's great!) to other threads.
> I don't get upvoted here normally
Hahaha yeah, I thought something was up ...
I wonder why the decided SRD was the place to go for this.
They're kind of storming every single place that is being mentioned in the main thread, which for reference is getting several posts a second.
People sure are upset that a woman might have allegedly had sex to allegedly further her career.
Pretty sure srd is being used as the outlet for people to talk about this, since the threads get deleted everywhere else. There's a couple in some smaller subs that are left up, but this is the bigget board not just nuking the threads as soon as they pop up.
Its early where I am, and there a rape drama thread still in hot, this should be past +10 at the most.
Hell, you rightfully saying that this isn't drama and just a comment graveyard is at -5, that isn't how SRD votes.
Dawg, I should be getting sweet free karma for that shit.
Plz keep this up I beg you.
His first title was "Gaming Mods Go Into Full Cover Up Mode After A Dev Is Accused of Trading Sex For Employment and Favorable Press", which is completely biased, and his second submission was to the full comment sections. Both of those are clearly against the sidebar rules.
Nah it's obviously a conspiracy by the feminazi SRD mods to support feminism's claims that women never do anything wrong or morally sketchy.
We can only hope the fempire hands out several shadowbannings for this.
No, all by /u/newuser13, all fucking up the rules, no cover up here.
I only submitted twice. Once was link to full comments, so I had to resubmit it.
You submitting right after the other guy makes me a wee bit suspicious.
What rules do they break?
First one
Second one
See my comment above, one was a biased title and one was a link to the full comments.
I only submitted twice. Once was link to full comments, so I had to resubmit it.
I dunno if you're being sarcastic or not, but the badly worded/obviously biased titles break the rules here.
If you are worried that reddit as a whole will suddenly start caring about whether they are making other people feel bad, I don't think you have to be too concerned about that.
I dunno, but I can't listen to a 24 minute video about shit I literally couldn't care less about.
Could someone give me a tl;dr?