B-Team Discussion (self.mindcrack)

458 ups - 130 downs = 328 votes

Okay, so I'm just going to go on a little discussion about the B-Team and how it's changed really BdoubleO's content dynamic. When the B-Team started it was just a fake mafia hit squad thing with BOO and Generik trolling Etho. It built up a little storyline that lasted the perfect length and culminated in the Trial. And the Trial was awesome. But then there started to be B-Team videos everywhere. B-Team is by far the most prolific Mindcracker team up there is. Genny's FTB series is even Feed the B-Team. Now there have been a lot of changes.

First off, OOG was basically replaced by the B-Team. But the B-Team is bigger than OOG ever was. Thing was about OOG that made it hilarious was that it was 100% unscripted. All the moments were absolutely genuine and that's what made it funny. Now apparently it's impossible for Guude and BOO to be online together to record any OOG. Which is weird because Guude can record with Jsano, the vice president of the United States.

Now back to the B-Team. Recently their videos have been very competition based. To sum it up: Race for Commander, Mine Wars, Emerald Wars, 'B'lazing Saddles. Basically the B-Team is in an eternal competition. Emerald Wars ended and there were feelings that it might have been rigged. I'm not saying it was, but there should have never been those feelings. If Generik was going to kick BOO's butt in the competition, then so be it. The B-Team's answer is that they're entertainers. That's true, but I want unscripted entertainment. The B-Team hunt for Slimey Sammy video was funniest at the end. Why? Because it was unscripted and you could very much tell. If you watch the Cowboy Olympics video, the beginning was painfully scripted. But here's the thing too: I like the B-Team. Generik and BdoubleO are some of the best LPers out there. (And don't get the idea that I'm blaming Generik or anything, I'm not, he's a great server addition). Basically when I watch BdoubleO I want BdoubleO talking to me. Not a character, I want his commentary. That's why I watch Building with BdoubleO, it's pure unfiltered BOO. I don't want to be blaming Bdubs, it's just that the best moments of his (and the B-Team's for that matter) are the unscripted ones. Name a good B-Team moment, and it's something that they didn't plan for. If they make it more unscripted, it'll get funnier. Like the Adlington incident. That was hilarious because BOO was genuinely freaked at Adlington coming for them. Any BOO moment in DOOKE or UHC is a quip he makes off the cuff. 'B'lazing Saddles could work if there's just a theme of the LP. Maybe for example: the sherrif wants them to go get emeralds. Okay. Don't spent 15 minutes on the set-up, you can have the storyline running, but then the actual caving is unscripted. So you can have a B-Team blown up by a Creeper incident. Those are the moments that keep me coming back to the B-Team. The best 'B'lazing Saddles videos were the two solo ones the two did, because they were LPing with a little overarching 'story arc'. That's cool. BOO building buildings, Generik doing redstone. It's good stuff. Basically, it would be nice if every video by them wasn't a B-Team competition, and if 'B'lazing Saddles was handled just a little differently. Then, I'm telling you, the videos could be great.

TL;DR: I don't want characters, I want the real personalities.

EDIT: And don't downvote people with different opinions. That's not cool

EDIT 2: Hey mods, I understand why this was removed. There have been too many assholes in this thread. I tried to encourage constructive criticism and maybe some praise too. I never wanted it to get as crazy as it did. I'm kind of glad it's back up, but everybody just please, please have a level head. This isn't a forum to insult the B-Team unconditionally, or me for that matter. Please, PLEASE try and have a nice discussion.

517 comments submitted at 13:58:16 on May 18, 2013 by Guardax

  • [-]
  • bdoubleo
  • -172 Points
  • 14:57:23, 18 May

lol you're cute :)

  • [-]
  • guywithtnt
  • 133 Points
  • 15:00:30, 18 May

Well that was a shitty reply to be honest.

  • [-]
  • 45flight
  • 61 Points
  • 15:37:58, 18 May

Seriously, that was really disappointing. I get just letting it roll off your back, but these are your fans that care enough to take the time to write out their concerns.

  • [-]
  • labtec901
  • 5 Points
  • 18:05:42, 18 May

It's the money, man. It gets to you.

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  • ActingLikeADick
  • 2 Points
  • 19:12:06, 18 May

I think so. I mean, he most likely isn't just doing it for the money but I think that getting into something like this will change people.

  • [-]
  • mobilehypo
  • -9 Points
  • 19:30:10, 18 May

No. The fans take the time to express their entitlement. Big difference.

  • [-]
  • 45flight
  • 5 Points
  • 19:36:37, 18 May

Yeah everyone who has a different opinion than you is just entitled and not worthy of consideration.

  • [-]
  • flussence
  • 17 Points
  • 18:20:19, 18 May

Shitty is an understatement. That was an Ocean Marketing tier reply.

  • [-]
  • anonymous123421
  • 1 Points
  • 20:06:04, 18 May

Just looked Ocean Marketing up. Yeah, it just goes to show you when you treat the people you rely on like shit, it comes back to haunt you.

If he doesn't make a self post or video explaining this and apologizing, that's it.

  • [-]
  • Ozzifer
  • 15 Points
  • 15:03:12, 18 May

Nobody likes being criticised for the way they work.

But hey, at least this isn't on Zisteau's YouTube channel, amirite?

  • [-]
  • TetrisTornado
  • 8 Points
  • 16:03:43, 18 May

Just curious: is the Zisteau thing a reference thing I'm not getting?

  • [-]
  • Ozzifer
  • 12 Points
  • 16:05:08, 18 May

There's a link somewhere on this subreddit. Somebody commented on his UHC video about seeing all the footage elsewhere, so Zisteau promptly said "how about go fuck yourself".

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  • Zisteau
  • 75 Points
  • 16:51:35, 18 May

I responded that way because they were outraged that it wasn't "new" and that they had already seen it in other videos. They hadn't seen how it worked or watched it being built and explained, they had just seen it in the background. I work really hard on my videos, and am going to be out of town in the first half of June, so I've been working around the clock trying to make sure there are videos available for people to watch while I'm gone. If someone is going to have that attitude they can take a hike. If they're curious as to why the video was delayed, that is totally okay. But outrage? Not okay.

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  • Ozzifer
  • 6 Points
  • 16:55:40, 18 May

Yeah, it was pretty awesome! Cut him down to size pretty quick. My comment here wasn't done disparagingly to you, more of a jest for that incident.

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  • LnktheWolf
  • 6 Points
  • 18:27:53, 18 May

I agree whole-heartedly with you Z. Some people just don't understand how hard you guys work to make things perfect. Be safe with your travels. Be ready for a prank when you get back!

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  • Qirajin
  • 4 Points
  • 18:29:37, 18 May

Props for speaking your mind and not worrying about being politically correct to ungrateful assholes like the commenter in question.

  • [-]
  • Roguekiller17
  • 3 Points
  • 17:17:24, 18 May

Truer words haven't been spoken. The amount taken for granted - from all Mindcrackers mind you - is getting ridiculous these days. Thank you for the work you put in Z! We appreciate it! Also, preemptively, safe travels next month.

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  • Lyeria
  • 3 Points
  • 19:19:05, 18 May

I appreciate your work, sir

  • [-]
  • Ehmanda
  • 5 Points
  • 16:59:12, 18 May

How do you guys cope with all of it? Eeeesh, skin of an elephant, man.

  • [-]
  • JacobMayfield
  • 7 Points
  • 18:46:34, 18 May

Actually, skin of a zombie pigman.

  • [-]
  • freddd123
  • 3 Points
  • 18:56:12, 18 May

By telling some kid to go fuck himself, apparently.

  • [-]
  • Razorhead
  • 3 Points
  • 17:33:57, 18 May

It was on his STB series, I believe.

  • [-]
  • Guardax
  • 11 Points
  • 15:07:04, 18 May

There's no hard feelings here, and I sent BOO a message on reddit telling him that, They're still some of the best content creators there are

  • [-]
  • Ozzifer
  • 9 Points
  • 15:13:39, 18 May

Oh, without a doubt. And honest, constructive criticism is a rare and valuable thing in the content industry. I should know, I write children's books for a living.

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  • AngelWoosh
  • 16 Points
  • 18:25:02, 18 May

Why not actually address what people are saying instead of being so condescending about it? At least generik came up with a proper reply.

  • [-]
  • Prestian
  • 52 Points
  • 15:07:45, 18 May

Don't see this thread as an insult or don't be all "haters gonna hate". Most of the people reacting here aren't haters at all.

It's a pretty constructive discussion with an in-depth discussion of your content.

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  • Guardax
  • 16 Points
  • 15:13:40, 18 May

There's lots of good discussion going on here, and it's great to see. It's called 'discussion' for a reason. Just some things to consider.

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  • Lhiv
  • 10 Points
  • 15:16:36, 18 May

Definitely. No hard feelings here, as far as I can see.

  • [-]
  • 45flight
  • 6 Points
  • 15:44:24, 18 May

There's not a hater in this thread. No one's hating on them. They're just saying they prefer their older or different style of their content. That's not hating at all, hell, that's loving.

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  • PieceOfPie_SK
  • 2 Points
  • 19:15:27, 18 May

The only reason we are here is because we care about these guys and we love (most of) their content.

  • [-]
  • Tox77
  • 71 Points
  • 15:02:01, 18 May

I'd have liked an actual reply, rather than a pretty arrogant sounding one to be honest

  • [-]
  • anonymous123421
  • 11 Points
  • 18:36:54, 18 May

His legitimacy is fading fast. I'm really hoping this all hasn't gotten to his head, and that it was just a "tone" thing that didn't translate over text. Either way, he just fucked up bigtime.

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  • Iynara
  • 69 Points
  • 15:23:45, 18 May

Well that was unexpected. I thought you were open to constructive criticism, but I guess not. I'm actually really shocked at this response. Nice way to alienate the people in this thread...

  • [-]
  • Lyeria
  • 0 Points
  • 15:31:15, 18 May

By posting, he's made himself even more open to criticism by it directly going to him

  • [-]
  • Iynara
  • 42 Points
  • 15:40:05, 18 May

No, by posting a quite frankly rude response he is in fact dismissing our (constructive) criticism and opinions.

No one who posted here wanted to offend the guys or make them seem like sellouts. To take it as personally as that without dignifying our concerns with a genuine response seems cold, though.

I love both Genny and Bdubs, and I hoped they would look at this thread as a group of people who feel the same as I do. Instead, in my opinion, Bdubs was too quick to take offence and sadly a lot of people will see that as a reason to stop being helpful and just be downright negative.

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  • Lyeria
  • -14 Points
  • 15:46:30, 18 May

The thing is, with Mr. JohnDoubleO here, a good rule of thumb is if he says something that can be taken two ways and one of them offends you or makes you mad, he meant the other one.

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  • SagaCult
  • 16 Points
  • 16:16:45, 18 May

Nice way to make him invulnerable to any criticism about things he says.

  • [-]
  • Lyeria
  • 1 Points
  • 18:59:57, 18 May

Oh, you can criticize, just can't be certain of intent until you ask

  • [-]
  • Iynara
  • 8 Points
  • 15:55:03, 18 May

The same can be said in defense of the people in this thread.

  • [-]
  • Lyeria
  • -10 Points
  • 15:56:17, 18 May

Yep, welcome to humans, my friend! シツ

  • [-]
  • 45flight
  • 15 Points
  • 15:47:48, 18 May

GB has posted in this and the Emerald Wars thread without being dismissive.

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  • Iynara
  • 3 Points
  • 15:57:11, 18 May

I didn't mention Genny at all in my post, but yes, despite that fact that he also didn't give a genuine response (in this thread, at least), he also wasn't outright offended when there was no need to be.

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  • 45flight
  • 6 Points
  • 16:01:17, 18 May

Well Lyeria kind of made it sound like no matter how they responded they would be "opening themselves to more criticism" (which isn't really a bad thing), and I just wanted to say that GB was able to do it just fine.

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  • Iynara
  • 4 Points
  • 16:03:57, 18 May

Ahhh, I see what you meant. Must have interpreted it wrong. My bad.

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  • Claypool2112
  • 2 Points
  • 16:31:11, 18 May

How was Generik not being genuine in his post?

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  • Iynara
  • 2 Points
  • 16:33:21, 18 May

I was talking about his first post ("Thanks for understanding us"), not the most recent one where he goes into more detail. That post is more like what I expect from them.

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  • Claypool2112
  • 4 Points
  • 16:42:21, 18 May

How was "thanks for understanding us" not genuine though? The guy just commented about how he liked what Generik and BDoubleO were doing and found it entertaining. How is thanking the person for liking what they did not genuine?

As far as BdoubleO goes, I didn't really like his response, but I don't understand why so many people got offended by it. Either he was joking, which could be the case, or he is just frustrated from hearing this over and over again. As Generik said, they constantly hear this stuff and it gets annoying. The people are definitely in the minority in the matter, otherwise, I don't know why their videos would be so popular.

Also, with Generik, it has to be really annoying to keep hearing that it's not as good as when BDoubleO was with Guude. People may feel that way, but it sucks to hear, oh, you're not as good as the guy before.

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  • Iynara
  • 2 Points
  • 16:45:40, 18 May

Perhaps genuine was not the right word in that instance. I do believe that Genny is genuinely thankful for those supporting their content. What I meant was that by using a blanket statement that way, to that particular post, he wasn't addressing any concerns mentioned in the thread.

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  • Thedarkmoose
  • 1 Points
  • 19:36:39, 18 May

So is Mindcrack the minority for finding the Yogscast childish? And is our opinion any less valid?

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  • Claypool2112
  • 1 Points
  • 20:01:26, 18 May

Where did I say anything about Yogscast whatsoever?

  • [-]
  • Lyeria
  • 1 Points
  • 15:50:38, 18 May

He's always been the one with a cooler head シ

  • [-]
  • vintagehunta
  • -3 Points
  • 16:07:07, 18 May

But it's not constructive. He gets way more views doing B-team stuff, and he enjoys doing it... You guys keep telling him to do stuff, he knows what he's doing. This is his job, let him work.

It's like the EA situation, if you don't like it, don't buy their shit and they'll soon learn. If you don't enjoy the b-team stuff, well maybe if your point was shared by thousands of others then they'll stop doing it. As it stands, that is not the case.

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  • Iynara
  • 4 Points
  • 16:12:49, 18 May

It's much more constructive than just sitting back and boycotting their content with no explanation. I'm very aware that the people in this thread are a very small portion of their community, but it's still important to mention it even if the masses don't agree. I'm not expecting them to change their content at all, but I will expect a decent answer explaining why he (clearly) disagrees.

EDIT: Also, I want them to enjoy what they're doing. Have you ever seen someone who doesn't want to be there suffer to the 30 minute mark? That stuff's depressing.

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  • mobilehypo
  • 1 Points
  • 19:32:23, 18 May

This entire subreddit could boycott Bdubs and Genny and it wouldn't make a very big dent in things.

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  • vintagehunta
  • 0 Points
  • 16:32:34, 18 May

It's not. They literally get criticized about this every single day. You aren't boycotting them, you are watching what you enjoy, which may so happen to not be them. You can't tell the yogscast to go back to the unscripted stuff, because that's no longer them anymore, they have a large audience for a reason. Let Bdubs do his thing, you seriously are not giving him any advice that is original.

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  • Iynara
  • 3 Points
  • 16:40:32, 18 May

I never said that my advice would be original, and I'm certainly not expecting them to change everything because of this thread or any other thread, for that matter. I'm simply stating my opinion, as are many others. It just so happens that it's an opinion that's been expressed before.

As for boycotting their content, I'm not. I enjoy Bdubs and Genny and do not intend to take any of their well-deserved ad revenue or enjoyment from it. But other people will choose to boycott their content because they don't like what's happening, and I don't blame them. It isn't about not watching what you don't like so much as not liking the way their content is going.

Again, I'm simply stating my opinion, regardless of whether it's an original one or not.

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  • vintagehunta
  • -2 Points
  • 16:47:55, 18 May

What do you want Bdubs to say? Do you want him to reply to this everyday? He's just having fun man, he knows he can't please everyone. Everyone on this sub is complaining way too much about everything lately

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  • Trick0822
  • 27 Points
  • 17:34:22, 18 May

Really? You guys always ask for feedback, and when people respond telling what you guys what we want to see, you don't even take it to heart. At least consider what people are saying instead of just rejecting it and acting like you are above everyone.

I love a lot of your videos, but some are just not that entertaining. You should take the advice and use it to improve your content.

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  • vintagehunta
  • -1 Points
  • 18:15:05, 18 May

He wants feedback in the comments section, where the dough is at

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  • Trick0822
  • 3 Points
  • 18:50:20, 18 May

I wouldn't go as far as to say bdubs is only in it for the money, but yeah, you want the majority of your audience (youtube commenters) to feel like they are very involved.

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  • freddd123
  • 2 Points
  • 19:04:08, 18 May

Then perhaps he should make a video asking people how they feel about his roleplay videos vs. his unscripted videos. He's already seen Reddit's thoughts (assuming he read most of the thread); that would be a good way to see Youtube's thoughts.

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  • Thedarkmoose
  • 7 Points
  • 19:34:21, 18 May

I'm sorry but this is unacceptable to me. The fact that you would callously dismiss a post because it talks about touchy-feely topics like OOG is ridiculous. Just because of a bit of hate in the comments. Wow. Looking at the most upvoted comments I see nothing but respectful criticism. Perhaps the fact that you would not at least address the post like Genny did is not what old Bdubs would of done. Maybe you should look at this post.

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  • Guardax
  • 37 Points
  • 14:58:31, 18 May

Not sure what this means, but I'll take it as a compliment

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  • BananaPotion
  • 15 Points
  • 16:28:25, 18 May

you're cute :)

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  • UltraMantis
  • 12 Points
  • 16:44:27, 18 May

please respond

  • [-]
  • BananaPotion
  • 13 Points
  • 16:49:26, 18 May

txt me

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  • Guardax
  • 2 Points
  • 17:55:39, 18 May

So who's going on the date to the Earl of Sandwich?

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  • ActingLikeADick
  • 2 Points
  • 19:14:30, 18 May

We gotta wait for Kurt to finish it first. Estimated opening: June 2014

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  • Guardax
  • 6 Points
  • 16:30:11, 18 May

I will take this one as a compliment as well. Thank you for assessing my cuteness level!

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  • BananaPotion
  • 10 Points
  • 16:33:45, 18 May

that's cute :)

in all seriousness though, thanks for not replying in an offensive way just because he basically shoved you in the 'haters' box. this is a great post, too bad he took it as something negative (or maybe he just doesn't care, dunno).

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  • Guardax
  • 5 Points
  • 16:37:01, 18 May

I don't know what he meant to be honest. But people say wrong things and make mistakes in what they say, God knows I have. It hasn't changed the fact that I'll be watching him.

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  • Ozzifer
  • 8 Points
  • 16:39:44, 18 May

Every breath you take, Every move you make, Every bond you break, Every step you take, I'll be watching BOO.

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  • Dabusco7
  • 6 Points
  • 19:49:50, 18 May

I know you will probably just delete/ignore all of the responses from your comment; but hear me out. You probably came in here when the post was just getting started, didn't expect anything to go down (4 Hours ago, as opposed to the 5 it was posted previous). But shit did go down. Shit went down and not only did you sully your reputation and opinions of potentially thousands of your fans, you don't even bother to come back and fix it; let alone say "I was joking, here is my real response." I am NOT hating by any means, but seriously, don't brush something like this off. This will likely not just magically go away. I like your content, and even the B-Team stuff, but seriously, fix what you have done. Hope to see more videos, but now more than that, a form of written hug for everyone else.

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  • Lyeria
  • 2 Points
  • 19:57:09, 18 May

This happens every couple months and does go away, it's less of a big deal than it seems.

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  • Lyeria
  • 19 Points
  • 15:22:10, 18 May

We're just doing some Reddit audience analysis of your recent work, nobody's mad, we all still love you. Some people just don't exactly resonate with the genre you two are currently producing, so we're trying to diagnose any disjunctions.

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  • Guardax
  • 12 Points
  • 15:25:30, 18 May

You hit the nail on the head, it was all constructive. If it wasn't it would've been: "B-TEAM BAD!" I offered my ideas on how to fix it. In no way will this effect their videos at all, just had some thoughts I wanted to get out there

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  • 45flight
  • 4 Points
  • 15:46:16, 18 May

Seriously, no one's in here going "The B-Team fucking sucks, fuck this, fuck you!" It's all "I don't really like it, but I'll tell you what I do like."

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  • ducducguz
  • 1 Points
  • 19:30:42, 18 May

I know you're trying to keep everyone level headed, and that's a hard thing to do.

But when you say "fix it," it implies something is broken, and I think that kind of steers the conversation in the direction of "we don't like the b-team stuff now, change it back!"

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  • Guardax
  • 1 Points
  • 19:37:52, 18 May

Fix it is in my opinion and this whole thing is a clusterfuck of people going crazy with opinions. I just hope everybody stays calm

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  • revereddesecration
  • 10 Points
  • 16:27:45, 18 May

You must be having a bad day. I too tend to take the "fuck the haters" attitude when people give me shit that I think is unjustified but it won't work for you, you need people to like you for your livelihood - I don't. Reality is, the customer is always right. It's a bitch but what do you expect from the entertainment industry?

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  • spritesup
  • 5 Points
  • 17:08:03, 18 May

I'm pretty sure he is just letting this roll off his shoulder. This reddit is maybe 1% - 3% max of his entire fan base, and in total maybe 400 people will actually see this. I wouldn't take a small portion of people complaining to seriously either. If they don't like the story line stuff then they should watch other series of his or Generiks. He has nearly 350,000 subscribers, he's not going to change his content to suit the people of the Mindcrack Reddit, that's nonsense.

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  • revereddesecration
  • 1 Points
  • 17:13:07, 18 May

That's all true. BDubz will continue to base his estimates of the health of his channel in views and likes rather than subreddit drama, I have no doubt about that.

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  • ironichaos
  • 5 Points
  • 19:49:11, 18 May

Well, that was incredibly rude IMO. Generik offered his point, while you just fueled the fire. You read the few assholes who took this as a bashing on you instead of constructive criticism.

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  • Newb3
  • 17 Points
  • 17:52:03, 18 May

Oh Wow. You've changed man.

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  • JustSmall
  • 1 Points
  • 20:19:27, 18 May

We shouldn't jump to conclusions because a comment was made. While I agree that it was a very bad way to respond (someone above me said "Ocean marketing style" which is a good description) and BdoubleO should maybe "explain" it but in the end is this just a comment. A single comment does not reflect someones character nor does it show us their development.

Hell, maybe he's drunk/high/both/etc. which is not necessarily a good explanation but it's something... .

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  • evilpenguin234
  • 20 Points
  • 15:52:49, 18 May

Can I be cute too?

But really, at least Genny took the time to make an actual response to a thought-out and reasoned criticism, if you're going to make a response at all the least you could do is do the same. Instead of being an ass about it.

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  • TheOriginalMyth
  • 20 Points
  • 15:44:11, 18 May

Thanks for adding to the discussion ya cutie...

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  • ImpatientWhiteGuy
  • 4 Points
  • 19:47:56, 18 May

This is just an unbelievably arrogant response, learn how to take some criticism.

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  • ItsKJB
  • 18 Points
  • 16:39:06, 18 May

I'm not going to lie, I've lost a lot of respect for you. You could of addressed this a bit better instead of saying "lol you're cute :)".

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  • notdeleted
  • 20 Points
  • 16:16:57, 18 May

And this guys is how bdoubleo lost all my respect. This was a very disappointing reply. At least generikb responded with something more useful than an arrogant smiley face. If I hadn't have seen the username I would have thought it was just a troll or teen girl. I'm sorry but this is just sad.

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  • AmobLP
  • 3 Points
  • 20:09:49, 18 May

You're making it worse on twitter Bdubs... You turned this thread negative with this comment. Don't try to blame this on some anonymous "reddit" entity.

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  • Zdeezee
  • 14 Points
  • 15:04:28, 18 May

Seems as people like his post, so are they "cute" too. Quit being a jerk...

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  • Lyeria
  • 3 Points
  • 15:17:09, 18 May

What's wrong with being cute?

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  • Guardax
  • 4 Points
  • 15:22:40, 18 May

I will take your compliment and run with it

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  • Lhiv
  • 1 Points
  • 15:20:02, 18 May

Honestly, it's a bit unfair to call him a jerk. Did he come across as a bit arrogant? Sure he did. But that doesn't make someone a jerk. One needs to take into account the fact that everyone says thing in a way that the don't intend sometimes. Even if he did meant to come across that way, one rude sentence doesn't damn him to jerkdom for all eternity,

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  • 45flight
  • 7 Points
  • 15:46:52, 18 May

>Quit being a jerk...

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  • TheDogstarLP
  • 15 Points
  • 16:40:42, 18 May

I have just lost a lot of respect I had for you..

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  • TetrisTornado
  • 14 Points
  • 16:07:00, 18 May

Wow, Bdubs. That's really surprised me. I recently unsubbed from you after getting bored of the B-team stuff, and after seeing that comment I'm glad.

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  • Qirajin
  • 4 Points
  • 18:33:55, 18 May

Bad move Bdubs!

But hopefully enough people here are lucid enough to realize you slipping off with 1 comment doesn't mean you've "turned to the dark side" or anything

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  • labtec901
  • 10 Points
  • 17:55:40, 18 May

The money man, it's getting to you, and we can tell.

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  • AlanZero
  • 6 Points
  • 18:32:44, 18 May

Wow, way to belittle everyone's opinions and verbally flip off your fans. Unsubscribed.

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  • Crimson5M
  • 1 Points
  • 16:51:09, 18 May

And there goes my last bit of respect. You're forgetting we're the people who made you what you are, that comment just proved how much your fame has gotten to your head.

Honestly, you used to be my favourite mindcracker. I watched almost every video you uploaded, if I didn't watch I at least left a like and watched an ad. Then B-Team started. At first I was like "alright, this is just a bit of fun that we're going to get every now and again, like Team Canada", but no. Every Mindcrack was becoming a B-Team video, every new series was a B-Team series. Then the let's build came along, and I loved it. But how long did that last before you abandoned it?

Bottom line is, you don't really give a shit about your fans any more. All you care about is the income you get from it, it doesn't matter where all that money you have came from, it doesn't matter that thousands of people gave you that money by watching your videos, laughing at your jokes, so many people that you not only entertained, but inspired.

And you don't even have the decency to listen to their opinions?

You're a fame obsessed arrogant prick that doesn't give a shit about your fans, nothing more. You won't be getting another penny from me and hopefully more people will follow suit. Enjoy that throne of money you're sitting on, don't bother thanking any of us.

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  • xXx_360_UpVoTe_xXx
  • 6 Points
  • 18:09:49, 18 May

>You're a fame obsessed arrogant prick that doesn't give a shit about your fans, nothing more

Where's the proof? If you're going to say something as insulting as that without proof to back it up, all it does is make you look like a cunt...which the rest of your post does too.

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  • mobilehypo
  • -2 Points
  • 19:33:38, 18 May

You're forgetting that this subreddit is a fraction of his viewers.

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  • UsernameNumber6
  • 1 Points
  • 20:24:10, 18 May

Bdubs, I love you, please just maybe do some stuff with other people on the server more often? I love seeing you and Generik branch out, partly why I've been loving these past two UHC's, and yes, we are cute. Thanks for noticing :)

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  • Meta_Bot
  • 1 Points
  • 20:24:35, 18 May

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  • SagaCult
  • -3 Points
  • 15:55:46, 18 May

It's cute that you can't reply to him like an adult. Arrogant douche.

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  • Iynara
  • 19 Points
  • 16:00:09, 18 May

Hey now, two wrongs don't make a right, buddy.

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  • SagaCult
  • 5 Points
  • 16:02:36, 18 May

What's wrong about calling him out on what a shitty reply that was? Oh wait, this is Reddit, it's all about the way you say things, I get it, what you didn't like was that I was rude to him.

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  • Iynara
  • 5 Points
  • 16:06:26, 18 May

Um, yes. That is exactly what I didn't like about it. It's fine to have an opinion on his lackluster response, but there's no need to be rude about it.

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  • SagaCult
  • 2 Points
  • 16:10:50, 18 May

Cool! I almost thought for a minute that you had some actual criticism about what I said. But now it's clear that you're just sensitive to some curtness on the internet, that's great. edit: I really don't want to be a jerk to you, sorry.

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  • Claypool2112
  • 4 Points
  • 16:28:06, 18 May

Is it really that hard to voice your opinion without being rude?

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  • SagaCult
  • 0 Points
  • 16:44:20, 18 May

Is it really that hard not to freak out whenever someone is rude around here? Seriously, people are often curt with others, and I wanted to be rude to BdoubleO. That happens.

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  • Claypool2112
  • 6 Points
  • 16:47:10, 18 May

Coming off as rude doesn't make a point any stronger. You're stooping to a low level that you were trying to say that he shouldn't of which pretty much makes you as bad as him. Why should you be treated differently because you were rude?

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  • SagaCult
  • -1 Points
  • 16:56:33, 18 May

> Why should you be treated differently because you were rude?

Don't know what you mean, don't care.

> Coming off as rude doesn't make a point any stronger.

Sure, Einstein, I merely wanted to be more emphatic.

> You're stooping to a low level that you were trying to say that he shouldn't of which pretty much makes you as bad as him.

What, no. He was shitty, I was rude in reply, that doesn't change what's right or wrong. Stop arguing with me because you're oversensitive to rudeness please. And "shouldn't of" doesn't exist.

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  • Ozzifer
  • 2 Points
  • 16:08:00, 18 May

You called him an arrogant douche. What were you expecting? Generally, name-calling leads to downvotes.

EDIT: Also, any post that includes "Oh wait, this is Reddit," tends to attract downvotes as well. Just as a rule of thumb.

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  • slappity
  • 0 Points
  • 15:04:06, 18 May

OP is NOT a smiler!

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  • Higgins113
  • -14 Points
  • 15:49:07, 18 May

Wow, fuck you

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  • Iynara
  • 17 Points
  • 16:00:33, 18 May

> Hey now, two wrongs don't make a right, buddy.

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  • 45flight
  • 2 Points
  • 15:59:33, 18 May

That's uncalled for.

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  • megalomaniac94
  • -8 Points
  • 15:17:43, 18 May

Does this sound scripted people?! Love me some Bdoubleo!

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  • Guardax
  • 9 Points
  • 15:19:46, 18 May

I never said 100% of their reactions to everything are scripted.

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  • megalomaniac94
  • -2 Points
  • 15:26:18, 18 May

Haha I know, just having some fun. Just like bdubs up there.

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  • Guardax
  • 7 Points
  • 15:32:34, 18 May

I hope he's having some fun. I really don't know to be honest

  • [-]
  • megalomaniac94
  • 0 Points
  • 15:37:44, 18 May

I mean I'm sure he's a bit frustrated, but he means no harm!

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  • [deleted]
  • -2 Points
  • 15:19:01, 18 May

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  • Lhiv
  • 5 Points
  • 15:21:32, 18 May

If you really think that making money is all B cares about, you are sorely mistaken.

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  • Guardax
  • 4 Points
  • 15:23:37, 18 May

You're right here, he is a very down to earth YouTuber. He cares about making good entertainment and makes videos that he thinks are such. I'm just saying I disagree with him on this matter, 'tis all. Not gonna stop watching BOO though

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  • [deleted]
  • -5 Points
  • 15:17:33, 18 May

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  • Prestian
  • 5 Points
  • 15:24:09, 18 May

That's a bit exaggerated.

Getting criticism on your work is always hard to cope with. I'm sure Bdubs will see in time that we don't have bad intent with this discussion. This is just a first and probably surprised reaction.

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  • megalomaniac94
  • 3 Points
  • 15:20:43, 18 May

TOO FAR MAN. TOO FAR.

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  • Ozzifer
  • 4 Points
  • 15:20:45, 18 May

That's a really passive-aggressive thing to say. Are you trying to hold the threat of unsubscription over his head like some kind of power play? Come on, now. Whatever Bdubs' reply is, don't be petty. Let's keep things as amicable as can be, yeah?

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  • AmobLP
  • 8 Points
  • 15:29:36, 18 May

I've been subbed to Bdubs since the original RFW and have watched every single one of his videos (no exaggeration). I have left a like on almost all of those videos. This is not a threat, but me merely expressing what I felt when I read his post. It was very flippant and I felt offended. This thread is a serious discussion and I would like a serious explanation from either of them.

I took this comment as a "fuck you" we will continue to be fake despite the original intent of the Mindcrack sever as explained by Guude. If that is the case, I will unsub. I'm here to watch genuine content between friends hanging out, not a reality show.

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  • Ozzifer
  • 1 Points
  • 15:33:24, 18 May

It's not a serious discussion, though. It's just subscribers offering up opinions to each other. We're obliged to explain our opinions to each other, sure, but they (Bdubs and Genny) don't really owe us an explanation of their methods and motivations, because there's no problem in need of addressing, so to speak.

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  • 45flight
  • 5 Points
  • 15:48:35, 18 May

Huh? I think it's a serious discussion.

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  • Ozzifer
  • 1 Points
  • 15:52:06, 18 May

To each their own. My definition of "serious discussion" is a bit further towards the far end of the spectrum than yours, most likely. Then again, I don't see their latest content as something that merits a serious discussion, so it could just be me.

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  • 45flight
  • 6 Points
  • 15:53:28, 18 May

Okay, it's as serious a discussion as you can have about youtube video game players.

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  • AmobLP
  • 2 Points
  • 15:40:50, 18 May

Youtube is a social media platform designed for interaction. Given that this thread has blown up, I would say that there are a few problems.

Also, I deleted my post above because people can't handle differing opinions.

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  • Ozzifer
  • 2 Points
  • 15:45:32, 18 May

Poor choice of words on my part. I meant more along the lines of "not a problem that's grave enough to need addressing", then. If more and more people are bringing this issue up, then yeah, I believe that they might have to provide some answers... although I think Genny already posted something in the Emerald Wars Finale thread an hour ago.

What do their opinions have to do with you deleting your post? If I was a betting man, I'd say it was because your post was getting downvoted into oblivion and affecting your overall karma.

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  • AmobLP
  • 1 Points
  • 15:48:57, 18 May

If I cared about Karma, I would post links. What I wrote is what I meant, no further assumptions needed.