Family Guy makes front page of /r/videos. SRS shows up in the comments section. Civil discourse ensues. (np.reddit.com)
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105 comments submitted at 16:44:03 on Jul 9, 2014 by bluemayhem
Family Guy makes front page of /r/videos. SRS shows up in the comments section. Civil discourse ensues. (np.reddit.com)
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105 comments submitted at 16:44:03 on Jul 9, 2014 by bluemayhem
Family Guy will make a joke about anything, including shit much more offensive than "hur hur women are catty," I can't believe people are actually upset at this one.
It's not that it's offensive, it's the fact that it reinforces negative stereotypes about women.
Peter's mere existence reinforces negative stereotypes about the Irish, Catholics and New England.
Edit: Grammar
> Peter's mere existence reinforces negative stereotypes about the Irish, Catholics and New England.
FALSE. Peter is white. His privilege prevents anyone from stereotyping him negatively.
That doesn't matter because things can only be offensive if they are against women or black people.
...and how does that excuse the show? Do you mean to say no one can call fault on something if there is another fault with it?
So because it does these other things that makes it immune from criticism in this regard?
Yes, actually.
South Park and Family Guy come from the "everything or nothing" school of comedy. You either make fun of everything or you don't exist. They don't hold back on any subject. You could argue that South Park does more satirically and Family Guy is crude but they both shoot for the same end game. Mock everything.
Which is why the whole Isaac Hayes leaving the show was such a big deal. They had done something offensive to all the religions pretty much then went after Scientology. Which was an odd story in general as at first he seemed to be ok with the episode. A month after it aired he was on the Opie and Anthony show and basically said they lampoon everything and not to take it so seriously. (Not the actual quote but that's gist of it.) Then as more time went on his view about the episode changed to eventually were it was intolerant and asked to be released by his contract. Matt and Trey accepted his request.
The whole chef returns set of episodes is basically showing how Scientology changed him. Only in the episode it was done by the Super Adventure Club that molests children around the world.
It's important to note that he was barely coherent at the time he "went against it" and those were statements given by his manager who was his scientologist spokesperson.
Yep, that adds to all the weirdness about all of it. He was later on the Adam Carrola show and was barely even able to do the interview. Not to mention his tour he did after his income dropped after leaving the show.
I definitely think his statements and illness/death at the time are a little shady. I'm hardly the conspiracy type, but I wouldn't put it past the CoS to do something like this.
I would definitely agree that the CoS definitely played a role in his departure from the show but I don't know about his death or anything like that.
It's literally a joke, you don't have to think it's funny.
Don't worry, they don't think it was funny either.
Whether or not I find it funny isn't the issue here. We live in a culture where misogyny is normalised and acceptable and this kind of shit only exacerbates the problem.
That's where we disagree. I think that joking about societal problems helps us actually see them. Think of people like Stephen Colbert, the creators of South Park or Dave Chapelle who through humor shows us just how stupid these parts of society are. Humor has always been a way criticize what is by inflating it to ridiculous proportion.
I understand where you're coming from but is this a joke about sexism or is it just a sexist joke?
Why not both?
You're right that the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. When I am with close friends I will make racist and sexist jokes with the implicit understanding that they know that I am mocking the people who hold those opinions rather than the marginalised groups the jokes are about. The problem with taking these jokes into a non-private setting is that not only is it hard to tell the intention behind the joke, it's hard to tell how viewers will interpret it. Some will view it as a joke about sexism but for others it will reinforce their own misogynistic tendencies.
>We live in a culture where misogyny is normalised and acceptable and this kind of shit only exacerbates the problem.
So what did your grandmother who couldn't own land live in?
|So what did your grandmother who couldn't own land live in?
A culture that was very misogynistic rather than the comparatively moderately misogynistic culture than we live in today. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make though, should we ignore social issues because things used to be worse?
But a fat, dumb, drunken, bumbling white guy with a hot smart girl way out of his league is completely cool right?