Mod of /r/anime bans non-anime cosplayers from their Anime Expo meetup (np.reddit.com)
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171 comments submitted at 15:08:51 on Jul 3, 2014 by datwunkid
Mod of /r/anime bans non-anime cosplayers from their Anime Expo meetup (np.reddit.com)
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171 comments submitted at 15:08:51 on Jul 3, 2014 by datwunkid
This is the reason I stopped telling people I like anime/manga. Fucking weaboos.
I find I'm happier with books/movies/tv if I avoid the fan communities like the plague.
doubt that is the only reason
"So do you like the ones where the guy molests his sister, or the ones where he molests a child he isn't related to?"
Don't forget all the consensual incest!
Bakemonogatari hasn't forgotten.
Wah! What we gonna do on the bed?
You forgot the pomf.
Googled that at work. That was a mistake.
Pomf=3
Straw that broke the camels back and whatnot. Definitely the biggest reason
Is the other reason that you revel in a kid/teenager power fantasy?
Do you not know that they have anime's for older audiences? Like right now I am watching an anime with my bf about a doctor who saved a serial killer. That is in no way shape or form for children. Also stuff can be considered "mature" with younger characters. Of course people can enjoy the "childish" stuff too, just like how watching Disney movies is okay amongst adults in the USA.
Monster! I absolutely loved that show, one of my favorites of all time.
It astounds me that people don't understand that anime isn't just for kids.
It's just an extension of "you aren't allowed to like what I don't like".
Not really an opinion worth worrying about.
I actually just legitimately think it's a misconception. Those not familiar with anime think all animation is for kids (or perverts) and it's frustrating. Which is why I enjoy recommending shows for people because there is something for everyone.
That used to be my opinion, until I watched AoT at the beginning of the year. Opened my eyes to a medium I would have never even considered getting into beforehand.
Awesome. While I have post history that might seem like I'm against AoT, I've always appreciated what it did for the industry exactly for the reason you described.
If you want some recommendations feel free to ask me, anime is a huge medium and can be a little daunting if you don't know where to go.
Thanks man. Since then I've watched quite a few older/highly rated shows and two from last season (NGNL and Knights of Sidonia). My favourite show so far has to be Madoka Magica. Everything about it is perfect, especially the music.
I'm not sure that really flies as well as it did 20 years ago. It's more mainstream than ever, and anybody under 30 grew up with it on Adult Swim and if they didn't watch it, at least saw commercials for it regularly. Heck, they have multiple shelves of manga in bookstores here now. Saying people are unaware of it seems a bit hollow these days.
Not unaware, just have the wrong idea. Like, it's popular, but if someone over 30 or 40 caught a glimpse of... say, like a few seconds of Cowboy Bebop on TV, I wouldn't be surprised if they dismissed it as some kid crap because it's animated.
It's been years, but I'm fairly certain it'd be hard to mistake that series in particular as being for children. There's a distinction between dismissing it because they don't care for cartoons and dismissing it because they think it's for children.
But unless you sit someone down and make them watch it, are they gonna care or be able to tell the difference?
If they sat through even an episode of something like Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Monster, or even something like Nana, it'd be really easy to convince them. But how many people are willing to do that BECAUSE of the association they have that anime = cartoon = kids?
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I loved Monster. I started reading it but I got out of it. One of the most interesting and deep mangas I ever read.
Yeup, it's pretty good kind of slow starting but I can feel it picking up pace.
Yeah I just see it as a medium to enjoy. It seems silly to close off an entire type of entertainment because the style is different. Though I think it's VERY strange how some people seem to worship it. Like I am not gonna get anymore excited for a new anime show than I would the next game of thrones episode.
Meh, let people have there thing I suppose. I mean, I personally wouldn't buy the figurines and posters and collectors editions, but as long as its not hurting anyone they can worship it as much as they want for all I care.
Yeah I mean I don't really judge I just go "well, that's odd". Which is all really but even then I suppose that's too much judging. I just wish some people could tone it down in public so other people don't get weirded out by it and also learn to enjoy it. Because I love it when someone learns to like something or they come to like something new :)
I mostly only watch anime but that is not because I treat it better than other mediums. Backlogs and stuff.
Yeah I have been in a Anime watching frenzy lately but I seriously can't find a new TV show to enjoy. I think I am gonna try sherlock, I have heard it's good.
I need to watch Breaking Bad, The Wire, House of Cards as far as American television goes.
Its because all they see are Naruto, Bleach, One Piece. The ones directed at kids.
> Of course people can enjoy the "childish" stuff too, just like how watching Disney movies is okay amongst adults in the USA.
Well, that's only the people who enjoy watching stuff with rose tinted glasses on and can only understand films with a simple plot. Giving the excuse "It's a kids film" if someone disagrees with them.
>about a doctor who saved a serial killer. That is in no way shape or form for children.
Notice how I said kid/TEENAGER? Yeah. There's nothing wrong with watching it, but it's still for kids/teenagers. I play videogames from time to time, which are for kids/teenagers. The people who argue that it's for adults are those who can't grow up.
Uh, actually there's a whole demographic known as seinen aimed at the 18-40 year old male crowd. Josei is the corresponding demographic for women in that age bracket.
How does that change my point?
...something made for mostly non-teens doesn't change your point that it's all aimed at mostly teens?
The fact of the matter is it's just another medium. Animation is just another way to tell a story. It's more prevalent in Japan because their live action quality isn't super great.
I'm just going to leave this here. I have nothing more to add to this conversation.
Why would you link a TVtropes page about weird animation fetishes. Are you now just using what is essentially hentai to say that animation is for adults? That's pretty extreme considering not many normal people will watch hentai.
So you looked at the picture without even glancing at the text. Got it. Troll confirmed.
Hint: it's an article about how just because something is animated, doesn't mean it's for kids. Most of the examples have nothing to do with porn or fetishes.
> So you looked at the picture without even glancing at the text. Got it. Troll confirmed.
Oh, so now I'm a troll because I skimmed over it, yeah that's a great conclusion to jump to. Sorry for not reading your oh so important article. There I apologized.
You think that all anime is for kids and teenagers but there is a genre specifically aimed at adults.
Young adults, most of which essentially have a teenage mindset. I've already mentioned this. So if you're not going to read my arguments then please stop.
You think 30-40 is "young adult?"
Hint: it's not
Would you prefer I used a term such as manchild? No, I didn't think so.
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Why can't you be a fan regardless of age? Are you saying it's impossible for an adult to be a fan of anime or videogames? That's just ridiculous. You're going to brush over two entire mediums by saying everything about them is made for kids/teenagers? Where are you getting these facts from? Is it ok to say that TV is for kids/teenagers because kids TV shows exist?
> Why can't you be a fan regardless of age? Are you saying it's impossible for an adult to be a fan of anime or videogames?
I said it was perfectly fine to be a fan, but their intended audience is children and teenagers.
>Where are you getting these facts from?
I didn't say they were facts
>Is it ok to say that TV is for kids/teenagers because kids TV shows exist?
A TV is a device. Videogames and Anime are mediums. Giant difference.
> A TV is a device. Videogames and Anime are mediums
Nice job completely dodging my question there. Would you prefer if I called it "the medium of recorded live-action visual entertainment made for television"?
>I didn't say they were facts
True, but you seem awfully sure of your statement, I was just wondering if you had anything to back it up
>Nice job completely dodging my question there.
I didn't dodge it. You're example was bad.
>True, but you seem awfully sure of your statement
You shouldn't assume. When you assume you make an ass of you and me.
> You're example was bad
Wow ...ok, how about movies? That's a medium, right? Because kids and teen movies exist is it fair to say the intended audience for all movies is kids and teenagers?
>You shouldn't assume
I'm not assuming anything, I honestly would like to know where you get the idea that all anime is intended for kids/teens
> Wow ...ok, how about movies? That's a medium, right? Because kids and teen movies exist is it fair to say the intended audience for all movies is kids and teenagers?
Yes. Film = Adults. Movies = kids/teenagers/young adults with a teenage mindset.
>I'm not assuming anything, I honestly would like to know where you get the idea that all anime is intended for kids/teens
That simply requires a quick browse of the web. 4chan is a quick and easy example of off the top of my head. Quite a lot there are teenagers/young adults with a teenage mindset that enjoy anime. That's not cherry pciking either since 4chan is a rather large sample size.
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I bet you're that guy that looks forward to tax season and yells at kids on your lawn.
Thankfully I don't live in the city so I never have any crotchfruit on my lawn.
Crotchfruit! You're an /r/childfree'er! It all makes so much sense now.
And they believe that anime/manga is for kids...
Huh, yeah, I suddenly see why this fella is so adamant here. Good catch.
Am I?
I'm sorry but I find it ridiculous that you can't enjoy a simple storyline and a complex one. I enjoy watching everything, plus I pay attention to almost every little detail to the movie/show.
I didn't say anything about teenager because teenagers very often enjoy movies/shows most people wouldn't dare consider made for teenagers. Teenagers is a weird category, would you consider all PG-13 movies for teenagers because they are made with teenagers in mind? I don't count teenager movies as their own category really because where do you draw the line. Older teenagers are no way similar to younger and visa versa. And I also believe that things can be made with adults and children in mind. Entertainment is allowed to have more than one audience.
>I'm sorry but I find it ridiculous that you can't enjoy a simple storyline and a complex one.
Because it gets tiresome seeing the same thing again and again.
>I didn't say anything about teenager because teenagers very often enjoy movies/shows most people wouldn't dare consider made for teenagers.
So you're just going to dismiss teenagers as a target audience. I'll refer you back to this
>The people who argue that it's for adults are those who can't grow up
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I'm just trying to say teenagers are a tricky audience because it's just extremely hard to pin them down in one category, because they are all over the place.
Obviously I am not going to change your mind on this. Have you ever even tried an anime with Mature themes?
Yes. Of the few I've been forced into watching, they just came across as something addressing the difficulties of being a teen/you adult through extreme examples.
Fair enough.
I respect your opinion, so I guess I'll leave it at that.
Well I guess if you consider shows for people only over the age of 18 "for teenagers" because, you know, people at 18 and 19 are still teenagers, then sure.
Quite a few still are. A 16 year old doesn't magically gain maturity and an adult mindset by the time they're twenty. It depends on the experiences they have.
Yes but my point being that there is a specific demographic of anime dedicated to men between the ages of 17 and 40 and another demographic for women between ages 15 and 44. There are plenty of shows that are specifically tailored for this audience.
My original point was the question, just because this demographic includes teenagers does it mean that these shows aren't for adults at all? That they can be dismissed as all being for children/teenagers?
I've already pointed out that I think it's fine to watch it as an adult, but it's still for kids/teenagers.
And I've been trying to point out, how is it still for kids and teenagers when some of the demographics it focuses on are mostly adults? Does having any teenagers in a demographic make it "for teens but okay to watch as in adult"?
The point is they make shows specifically for adults.
No, no they don't.
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