/r/mensrights invades a reddit request thread. This drama gets really personal. (np.reddit.com)
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79 comments submitted at 20:59:26 on Jun 28, 2014 by IAmAN00bie
/r/mensrights invades a reddit request thread. This drama gets really personal. (np.reddit.com)
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79 comments submitted at 20:59:26 on Jun 28, 2014 by IAmAN00bie
/r/mensrights invading another sub?? I am SHOCKED!
Don't admins tend to go ballistic on people who brigade redditrequest? I don't understand what any of these people hope to accomplish...
>I don't understand what any of these people hope to accomplish...
Neither do they. They don't know what the fuck they are doing, they wont accomplish anything because they don't know how to. On a website where most of the userbase is male you'd expect them to be more popular considering they've existed for about 6 years. But for some mysterious reason they are failing to attract a strong following. If they were a more positive community I'd probably subscribe, but that sub just feels alienating.
It is. They don't really give a crap about men. It's incredibly frustrating because they could do so much that would actually help men. Fund shelters, do outreach, help male victims of rape and domestic violence... But no. They just want to hate feminists.
Ugh.
/r/mensrights is just another facet of online victim culture, which unlike real social justice movements means they're utterly uninterested in anything that doesn't help them to blame others for their problems
Jesus, another bash MRA's thread. I'm unhappy with how little is done too but im not deluded enough to think they just want to blame. Most people I interact with there have genuine concerns they want to fix. God forbid most of them are unsure of how exactly to do that.
generally people with genuine concerns at least attempt to effect the greater world in some way
this is a pointless discussion i think, with you. if you really believe no MRA is doing anything to affect the greater world than you're objectively biased and in denial. if i point out the time and money being donated to efforts, the conferences being organized, the awareness being raised, the articles being written...well you're just going to move the goalposts to something like "that's all misogynistic" or some nonsense anyway.
no, i'd say that none of that shit has accomplished anything. men's rights activists, despite having existed for decades, have done nothing, literally nothing to effect the issues of male disposability or whatever other issue they claim to represent. all they've got is a series of embarrassing statements made by prominent members of the group, and equally embarrassing attempts at real life organization and activism.
i'm really saddened you feel that way but i also see i'll never change your mind.
> if you really believe no MRA is doing anything
MRA =! r/mensrights. I'm sure Men's Rights Activists across the world are doing great works to raise awareness, donate to men's shelters and all manner of positive steps towards equality. Unfortunately none of them are subscribed to r/mensrights
again, we disagree there. i've interacted with plenty of users who contribute there and do exactly what you mention elsewhere.
No one's bashing MRAs, just the subreddit. Are they even really MRAs? Because as I understood the A in MRA stood for "activist", which the denizens of /r/mensrights certainly aren't.
>God forbid most of them are unsure of how exactly to do that.
This is what I mean. /r/mensrights have had 6 years to figure that out. Organise a fun-run, have a charity drive, SOMETHING.
Look at Bronies. They aren't activists for anything, they are just a bunch of guys who like ponies and they do charity shit all the time. The guys who the internet labels as depressing neckbeards with no lives still manage to have an actual positive affect on the world despite all their apparent flaws but a serious sub which is (Allegedly) dedicated to activism can't muster up the know how to actually do anything? How completely ass backwards is that? What, is it too much to google "how to organise a charity donation"?
so because they aren't doing things how you would, you have issue with them? the sub isn't a sponsor for anything, it's just a forum for discussion. plenty of users take their activism elsewhere from what i've seen.
>so because they aren't doing things how you would,
No, because they aren't doing things at all.
>the sub isn't a sponsor for anything,
>it's just a forum for discussion
Then they should call themselves "Men's Rights Discussers"
Maybe they should be. r/atheism, one of the most hated subs on reddit managed to raise 100k for doctor's without borders.
>plenty of users take their activism elsewhere from what i've seen.
So why are they so discrete about it? Surely you'd want everyone to join in.
I don't judge people by their intentions, I judge people by their actions. When I see a mensrights I see a bunch of people who can't be fucking bothered to fight for what they believe in. It's not a movement, it's a pity party.
He's just saying that MRA is just a reflection of the standard tumblr SJW. Based on occasionally looking at the MR sub, he's not really wrong in my opinion.
we disagree then. i don't think the bulk of /mr users are there just to blame; i genuinely believe most want to make a difference and make things better, but aren't sure how to.
> genuinely believe most want to make a difference and make things better, but aren't sure how to.
Are you kidding me?
Here's a link to a Men's Shelter that needs donations. /r/mr could link it in their sidebar and make a post about it. 1 buck each and you've raised nearly 100k. That took 5 minutes. Now either i'm a genius or mensrights is complacent.
plenty of threads have popped up to make donations, and plenty of folks have donated. thanks for finding a new one to add to the list; do you want to make the submission or would you like me to?
beyond that, i wasn't just referencing money. throwing money around doesn't solve the world's problems. as i'm sure you know, that takes legislative efforts, regular conferences where people can discuss and make action plans. and that kind of thing isn't something most people know how to do or are natural at. since you seem to be, maybe hop over there and contribute. give tips. help them organize.
in any case, we've now shifted goalposts. my original point was simply that the sub is not merely used by folks looking to blame. now we're talking about failures to organize? help out!