Well known white supremacist copypasta, upvoted and given gold sets off drama wave in /r/videos (np.reddit.com)
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137 comments submitted at 21:43:00 on Jun 19, 2014 by [deleted]
Well known white supremacist copypasta, upvoted and given gold sets off drama wave in /r/videos (np.reddit.com)
SubredditDrama
48 ups - 0 downs = 48 votes
137 comments submitted at 21:43:00 on Jun 19, 2014 by [deleted]
I'm out
Wow you weren't kidding.
I'd seriously consider posting this thread to /r/bestof since it's the best show of personal principles I've ever seen on reddit, but I know it'd never be well-received.
You don't wanna bring /r/bestof over here.
So meta
Good riddance. There's way to fucking much political correctness on reddit lately, users value cushioned feelings over logical reasoning.
There wasn't any logical reasoning in that thread.
Rolling around in feces is nothing to be proud of young man.
Yeah, I have been meaning to delete my account. This has pushed me over the edge.
I feel pressure building up.
You know what, I'm done too. Fuck it. Fuck this entire community.
This isn't a community anymore :(
Not only have I been spending too much time on Reddit, but the racism and misogyny are getting worse by the day... you know what, I'm joining you.
I'm getting closer and closer to doing this. this has become a woman hating white supremacist website.
Yeah me too.
Lets see, both of us have been here over two years. Together we have over 100,000 comment karma, and about 15,000 link karma. But it might be about time to abandon this sinking ship. Wanna jump? I'll delete this account with you if you are down.
What do ya say?
Edit: Welp I think I made up my mind. Peace niggas!
A part of me want to delete it. The other part fears that if we leave in silence, they win. Reddit will become a breading ground for new racists.
I'm t a bit tired (it's 1:23 here), but if we delete our account, we should try and make a statement with it.
Perhaps a kickstarter for the charity "Leave reddit and support equality"? Where we delete accounts if you donate to certain charities? Like a 10 cents per 1.000 combined karma (so my account would be around 10 bucks). A last "fuck you" to racism.
> Reddit will become a breading ground for new racists.
Today I came across the teaser trailer for Dear White People (yeah, with a title like that, you know what's coming). The comment section was filled with people throwing "nigger" around and saying things like "blacks are unpleasant to look at, they should all go back to Africa". I spent about 5 minutes reading the comments and flagging the racist ones for "hate speech". About 10 minutes later, most of them were gone, including one that got something like 50 likes for calling black people "destructive shits". The ones that remained contained only subtle racist remarks, which are not as easy to write off unless you can read between the lines (having a Jewish caricature as an avatar is always a dead giveaway).
My point is, it's not hard for a website this big to keep virulent racism in check. And yet, the racism I see on Reddit is so beyond "virulent" that it must take some effort for the admins not to notice it.
jesus, if youtube can do it, then reddit has no excuse
You have a point. But its all the Admins fault. Free speech doesn't work when it silences casual/rational users in favor of blatant brigades from Redpillers and Nazis. They need to ban hate speech outright. Facebook did that and they are doing just fine.
The racists are organized. The sexists are even organized. Either organize or die.
Right.
The racists use all these relatively sophisticated tactics to spread propaganda and influence Reddit. The anti-racists scurry off to the meta-subs to whinge about how wrong racism is.
The racists know how to play to the "logic and reason" crowd (Biotruths). The anti-racists talk about institutional racism and the cycle of poverty. Biology is favoured over sociology on Reddit.
Of course the racists are going to "win". They're craftier and more proactive.
You pretty much summed up the situation perfectly. Do you think the hate users and their propaganda are to blame in the overall shift of opinion on social issues over the years? if they have at all?
I remember years ago, I think 2010, affirmative action was reasonably and respectably debated on one of the defaults. Even tipping in the favor of AA. Imagine that happening now. Not in a million years.
"we can have freespeech and ban everything thats offensive"
I've started trolling /r/whiterights. Yall can join of you're up for it.
I'm down.
Stay out of the defaults
There's no point. They just start raiding smaller subs because they think its easier to sway the opinion.
I mean what subs are you going to? I frequent /r/paradoxplaza, /r/civ, here and balls of Poland and I never see any of this misogynistic/racist shit.
/r/unitedkingdom and /r/ukpolitics especially the latter, /r/europe gets raided a lot as well. Mainly from /pol/ but sites like stormfront as well.
I see its because you go to mainly political subs. But I spend most of my time on /r/asoiaf and a few smaller subs and don't encounter much ignorance.
I do my best to be racist against Canadians on /r/civ
Yeah, I just stay in/r/MLS, some comicbook reddits, this place, badhistory, shitty/normal foodporn, iiwtl, and askhistorians. Probably the worst place I go to is /r/soccer and /r/movies, where there is occasional racism (moreso in the former than latter), of
I play Crusader kings ii game of thrones mod what other paradox games do reccomend?
Europa universalis 4, Victoria 2 and hoi 3 (if you feel like having a real challenge, hearts of iron 3 is incredibly difficult to learn)
edit: oh and don't even bother with hoi 3 and vic2 if you can't afford its expansions
>I'm getting closer and closer to doing this. this has become a woman hating white supremacist website.
Has become? Meh. If anything, it's probably going down.
Take a break from SRD and the defaults. You'll still get a whiff of angry reddit neck beard now and then, but you'll avoid a ton of it. I rarely see racism unless I wander to posts featured here or my occasional visit to /r/worldnews.
Me too. I'm on the fence. It's good fun sometimes but other times its completely disturbing.
I've compromised. I'll keep going on reddit but I won't give any money/gold unless the admins stop using their website to give a platform to violent hateful messages.
Yeah when it comes down to it. Its all the admins fault. This has become a platform for hate. Look at Facebook, they have a clear "no hate speech rule" and yet the website hasn't become any worse due to that rule. Reddit could do this, but they don't want to. I just saw two more people delete their accounts in r/circlebroke due to this thread.
Reddit's "free speech" policy is not actually encouraging discussion at all.
It's actively driving people away (like the guy/gal on this thread who deleted their account) and discouraging sane people from participating.
It always annoyed me that they'll ban things like commenting/voting in linked threads but not overt racism or even death or rape threats.
To be fair, Facebook isn't equivalent. There are plenty of white supremacists and other ilk on facebook. I mod /r/SyrianCivilWar and am running the Iraq Live Blog and I can tell you from personal experience ther terrorists LOVE Facebook and Twitter, and use them as mediums to share all sorts of disgusting things. Our twitter account follows a lot of rebel groups and other Jihadis and I can find hate speech in my feed within five seconds of logging on.
The difference is that on Facebook/Twitter you curate who you want to see content from, so you won't see content from white supremacists and jihadis unless you want to. On reddit, you're thrown in with a lot of strangers, some of whom happen to be nazis and sexists. There's a simple solution for this: stay away from places like /r/funny or /r/worldnews. /r/Worldnews recently added a known anti-semite as one of its mods--that's disgusting. You know what though? There's nothing forcing us to go to subs like that. There are plenty of other well moderated subs that don't tolerate racism/sexism and will remove it on sight.
So yeah. Just like you curate your Twitter or Facebook experiences, you can curate your reddit experience. I 100% agree that reddit has a sexism/racism problem but I don't run into it often because I don't use default subs or other poorly moderated subs with shitty communities.
It's hard to know where to draw the line sometimes. Mods get a lot of heat when they censor. You can't have it both ways
Yeah, the guy above is just a big whiny baby. Censoring the internet is not going to get rid of racism.
Well, if that is how you feel, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Yup. It used to be that they stayed in their own private subs, because public opinion mercilessly struck them down every other time. Now they invade, brigade, and any resistance had apparently left a long time ago.
/pol/ has been by far the biggest contributor (and the catalyst behind the linked thread). Whenever my spidey sense has gone off (usually over a worldnews thread) I see that it is linked by /pol/ and they are attempting to load the thread with a specific narrative to overwhelm public opinion.
People just can't care when they see this happen every week. Now they can invade at will.
Take me with you :/
>woman hating white supremacist website.
Funny you say that because the absolute majority of the comments here are far more terrified of he nasty racist comments in /r/videos then the fact that a pregnant woman was just punched in the face, with many suggesting that that /r/video mods should just allow these type of videos because of the "problematic" comments that come with it. Not to talk about the fact that this submission has absolutely no drama, seriously, i hate to bring the SRS circlejerk, but this is actuality the type of post that would be appropriate there, so everyone can gather and say just how much they hate reddit and how horrible it is.
Maybe you should just leave reddit if you cant handle the "hate", after all we have the privilege of choice and freedom.
> Funny you say that because the absolute majority of the comments here are far more terrified of he nasty racist comments in /r/videos then the fact that a pregnant woman was just punched in the face
How can you tell if the focus of the discussion is on the abject racism and not the video? Everyone here might think the assault is worse but they're not talking about the assault so they don't mention it. People are capable of thinking two things are bad without constantly mentioning one when discussing the other. Do you want them to tack on a "also it's horrendous that this woman was attacked" at the end of every post?
Fortunately, leaving and not leaving are not the only options when invested in communities that have developed serious problems.
This isn't "reddit, love it or leave it."
Probably a good choice...
boo fucking hoo, a handful of a website's five+ million users chose to interpret racial statistics in a different way than you. reddit is by far the most left wing, politically correct forum i've ever visited... if you can't handle even the slightest disturbance in your echo chamber, maybe the internet isn't for you.
"sorry you can't handle the slightest disturbance in your "not racist scum" circlejerk, plebs 8D"
congrats on your teenage view of the world
the more users reddit gets, the more diverse it's content is going to be. no amount of snarky comments is going to prevent this from happening. didn't SRS make it's own, off-site forum a while back? i'm sure that would be a better place for you.
Boy are you ever reaching to defend racism. How pathetic.
not quite... just helping you understand the futility of your bitching and whining.
By defending racism and racists. That makes you no better than them. Congrats, racist.
classic SRS
"I don't understand why people think I'm a hateful bigot when I stand around in a group of hateful bigots and defend them whenever people point and laugh at them! Must be SRS."
DRINK.
> boo fucking hoo, a handful of a website's five+ million users chose to view racial statistics in a different way than you.
Be little more specific. Are these stats this way because blacks are violent, or are blacks violent because of very relevant historical social impacts?
> reddit is by far the most left wing, politically correct forum i've ever visited...
Really now? The right wing or center comments are just invisible? No, you see a big portion of people who identify with "race realism", not ever raising minimum wage, and so on.
Actually, Reddit's a bastion for libertarians too bro.
> if you can't handle even the slightest disturbance in your echo chamber, maybe the internet isn't for you.
Or is it that racists can't handle the fact people can easily pick apart why "choosing to be offended" is a flawed concept used to remove blame for you know, being racist?
Is this some kind of "I hate racists more than everyone else. LOOK HOW UNRACIST I AM!" circlejerk?
How is pulling an ostrich a badge of honor to you?
Haha wow. Are you really so upset that someone posted statistics on race and crime rates?
I remember this guy from about a month ago, when I noticed that he was spamming racist posts to /r/news. After poking through his history, we found that his entire account was dedicated to spreading racism and hatred. That means posting dozens of anti-black and anti-semitic stories to hundreds of small little local subreddits every single day. It's not about the statistics, it's about the fact that reddit is upvoting actual Stormfront copypasta from an account dedicated solely to hate.
It would be nice if somebody could figure out where all this sludge is leaking from. It's hard for me to believe that there's no connection.
my guess is stormfront because i've seen this exact copy pasta maybe 3-4 times. maybe the old /r/niggers crew if they've made new accounts as well
Yes, I am quite upset that someone is being cheered on for misusing and misrepresenting statistics to advance his racist ideology. Finding racism upsetting is one of the basic requirements for being a decent human being. Maybe you should keep your garbage to /r/WhiteRights where we can safely ignore you.
This bastion of logic and computer science majors which loves sources and data apparently gives zero fucks when it's cherrypicked and misinterpreted statistics which are used to justify racism.