Can men play in women's sports teams? /r/PussyPass discusses (np.reddit.com)
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34 comments submitted at 01:09:07 on Jun 14, 2014 by MrPistolShrimp
Can men play in women's sports teams? /r/PussyPass discusses (np.reddit.com)
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34 comments submitted at 01:09:07 on Jun 14, 2014 by MrPistolShrimp
It's a subreddit dedicated to complaining about "female privilege", which doesn't exist. As you would expect, it's full of misogynists and MRAs (but I repeat myself...)
The top post right now is an article sourcing the Daily Mail about a woman who was granted asylum in Canada, after being given a 30 year prison sentence for statutory rape. Apparently that's an example of "the pussy pass," rather than an example of a country willing to protect others from punishments that don't fit the crime (statutory rape is fucking disgusting, but not 30 year prison sentence disgusting, man or woman. Murderers get less time than that.)
So men getting harsher punishments than women for the same crimes is not female privilege?
Women don't just get more lenient sentences, but also outright exemption from certain crimes in some countries.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/boy-facing-sex-trial-as-court-upholds-romeo-and-juliet-law-26824861.html
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Only-men-can-be-booked-for-rape/Article1-1021702.aspx
There's no such thing as female privilege. Women are not a privileged class.
>Privilege:
>A special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.
Are women not a group? Is more lenient prison sentences not an advantage?
Women getting lenient prison sentences does not constitute a society which favours women over men. "Female privilege" is used to contrast with the common term "male privilege," used to describe the systematic favouritism men enjoy in society. Since women do not enjoy systematic favouritism in society to any significant degree, women do not have "female privilege."
It constitutes a society in which women get an advantage in one area. It is a privilege, for women.
Yes, it is a privilege, but it's not an example of female privilege as a whole. Female privilege is part of a more complicated concept than simply "this person has an advantage, so they're privileged."
Incidentally, I'd argue that this isn't much of a privilege for women either. Women tend to get more lenient prison sentences because of societal views about women being weak and unable to cope. While it may be great for the individual women being sentenced, it's bad for women as a group.
So a privilege, that women experience, is not an example of female privilege? So what makes privileges, that men experience, an example of male privilege?
We live in a society where men are a privileged class. Privileges that men experience due to their sex are examples of that fact. Examples of privileges that individual women experience due to their sex are not examples of female privilege, because women are not a privileged class and thus don't have female privilege.
Sorry, I'm a good student but not a very good teacher so that may not help clarify things very much. Basically what I'm trying to say here is that when you refer to male privilege, you're referring to institutional discrimination that leads to one sex having disproportionate power and advantages in our society. Female privilege would be a result of a society with matriarchal power structures - so not our society.
Keep in mind that I'm not disputing that lower sentences for women is a privilege individual women experience. I'm just arguing that that privilege does not contribute to a "female privilege" that all women in society experience, because women as a whole are disadvantaged due to their sex, not advantaged.
>We live in a society where men are a privileged class. Privileges that men experience due to their sex are examples of that fact. Examples of privileges that individual women experience due to their sex are not examples of female privilege, because women are not a privileged class and thus don't have female privilege.
So let me get this straight:
Privilege men get = Examples of male privilege
Privilege women get != Examples of female privilege
>I'm trying to say here is that when you refer to male privilege, you're referring to institutional discrimination that leads to one sex having disproportionate power and advantages in our society.
Why can only the dominant gender be privileged? Why not admit that both genders have privilege in different areas of their lives and that an advantage that either of them gains due to it is an example of their genders privilege?
>I'm just arguing that that privilege does not contribute to a "female privilege" that all women in society experience, because women as a whole are disadvantaged due to their sex, not advantaged.
Why is it either-or? Why can't people be both disadvantaged and privileged due to their gender but in different areas?
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