"What specific positions of the MRM do you object to?" One use braves the waters in /r/MensRights (np.reddit.com)

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17 ups - 7 downs = 10 votes

22 comments submitted at 23:41:25 on May 27, 2014 by david-me

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  • superslab
  • 4 Points
  • 00:17:31, 28 May

>This is a movement saying we still have rights that deserve protection

That will never not be funny.

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  • x757xSnarf
  • 2 Points
  • 01:53:24, 28 May

It's so stupid. We aren't oppressed. We have rights. We have the most rights.

Let's create a movement to protect our rights.

My logicer hurts

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  • Shoemaster
  • 1 Points
  • 02:12:10, 28 May

It's not illogical. If you see injustice happening, you don't ask whether it's against someone who has passively benefited, as a whole, from injustice. You try to solve the injustice.

It's not a competition.

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  • ALoudMouthBaby
  • -5 Points
  • 02:26:44, 28 May

> It's not a competition.

Tell that to all the MRAs who are falling all over themselves to make rape as big an issue for men as it is for women.

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  • MSgtGunny
  • 2 Points
  • 03:03:57, 28 May

Except there are statistics to back up their claim that female on male rape is almost equal to make on female rape.

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  • ALoudMouthBaby
  • 4 Points
  • 03:14:56, 28 May

> Except there are statistics to back up their claim that female on male rape is almost equal to make on female rape.

I would love to see those statistics. Because last I checked men are victims as frequently, no doubt about that, but in the vast majority of cases the abuser is male.

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  • Osiris32
  • -3 Points
  • 02:39:28, 28 May

How about the ability of men to interact with children? When I was 18 I had the cops called on me because I found a small girl lost in a store's parking lot, and brought her inside the store to the customer service desk. The mother called the cops because "I had tried to do something with her daughter." I talked with two county sheriff's deputies, who ran my ID and questioned me extensively about my intentions with the girl. While I was never arrested or formally charged, I was still publicly interrogated and treated like a pedo by the mother.

All because I found a lost child and tried to get them reunited with their parent.

I'm not MRA, but there very much are areas where men are at a disadvantage, and I don't see a problem with trying to put those areas on equal footing for everyone.

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  • HoldingTheFire
  • 1 Points
  • 03:39:56, 28 May

I volunteer with children. I have gotten nothing but undue praise for being a man interested in helping children. Perhaps you shouldn't start with offering them candy to get into your van.

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  • ALoudMouthBaby
  • -2 Points
  • 02:46:47, 28 May

Wow, so you were asked to identify yourself and questioned by a law enforcement officer once. How terrible!

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  • Osiris32
  • 0 Points
  • 02:50:53, 28 May

For helping a child, yes. I have no issue with talking to cops, I'm a CJ major and looking at getting into law enforcement. What I have an issue with is getting the cops called on me for trying to help a child in distress. Just because I was a teenage male.

THAT is what bothers me.

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  • ALoudMouthBaby
  • 2 Points
  • 03:15:52, 28 May

> For helping a child, yes. I have no issue with talking to cops, I'm a CJ major and looking at getting into law enforcement.

Oh, well as a criminal justice major you should know that black people have to explain themselves to law enforcement all the time for doing far less. I don't see you complaining about that anywhere.

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  • Osiris32
  • -2 Points
  • 03:20:55, 28 May

That's because race relations with law enforcement are for a different subreddit, and not directly relevant to the issue at hand. If it was, I would say that the issue of race relations with law enforcement is much more complex than a lot of people are willing to admit to, with both sides bearing responsibility for the situation, however it must be said that law enforcement needs to make some greater strides towards removing the racist appearance they have in certain areas.

And that's not even touching on the issues caused by media involvement.

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  • ALoudMouthBaby
  • 2 Points
  • 03:27:00, 28 May

> That's because race relations with law enforcement are for a different subreddit, and not directly relevant to the issue at hand.

Oh, yeah, because when you get stopped by the police once it is an outrage. When minorities are stopped by police, eh, that doesn't bother you. Because:

> If it was, I would say that the issue of race relations with law enforcement is much more complex than a lot of people are willing to admit to, with both sides bearing responsibility for the situation

It is black people's fault that they are far, far more likely to be harassed by police than a white male! It all makes sense now!

> And that's not even touching on the issues caused by media involvement.

And the media's fault!

I see. If a white person is stopped by the police, questioned and asked to identify themselves? OUTRAGE! When the same things happens to a minority? Eh, its the minority's fault, and the media's.