Some users in /ainbow don't like the idea of straight LGBT supporters. (np.reddit.com)

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56 ups - 48 downs = 8 votes

131 comments submitted at 13:13:37 on May 9, 2014 by david-me

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  • moonflower
  • -11 Points
  • 13:18:18, 9 May

You can't do right for some of those ainbow folks ... if you are anything less than fully supportive of their (sometimes extreme and outrageous) demands, you are ''[whatever]phobic'' and if you are fully supportive you are ''only doing it to make yourself feel good or get attention and praise etc'' ... and if you ignore them you ''don't care about their struggles for equality''

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  • Daemon_of_Mail
  • 18 Points
  • 13:51:46, 9 May

Says the person who used to go into every trans-related thread and tell transwomen they're not real women.

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  • cateatermcroflcopter
  • 13 Points
  • 13:54:01, 9 May

Used to? Did he stop in the last week?

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  • Daemon_of_Mail
  • 10 Points
  • 14:05:35, 9 May

She seems to have given up on /r/ainbow, but I suppose she still finds threads out in the wild to harass. I do remember for a while she was going into various CMV threads to support the views of people who didn't believe trans was a thing, or that trans people have it all that bad.

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  • Jess_than_three
  • 7 Points
  • 21:06:43, 9 May

>She seems to have given up on /r/ainbow

And nothing of value was lost.

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  • moonflower
  • -8 Points
  • 14:22:46, 9 May

Like this one for example

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  • Daemon_of_Mail
  • 7 Points
  • 14:40:29, 9 May

Funny how you seem to take pride in basically saying that trans people need therapy to make them more "comfortable" being cis.

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  • moonflower
  • -6 Points
  • 14:59:19, 9 May

I thought I would choose an example which showed me being supportive of trans people having surgery to make themselves happier, and you still somehow managed to twist it all around and imagine I said ''trans people need therapy to make them more "comfortable" being cis.''

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  • moonflower
  • -2 Points
  • 14:19:48, 9 May

I haven't posted in ainbow for more than a year

*It's reassuring to get downvoted for offering correct information, it shows what kind of people I'm dealing with here

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  • cateatermcroflcopter
  • 4 Points
  • 18:20:55, 9 May

I saw a thread about a week ago where you were preaching about the nonexistance of transpeople. Your "correct information" is bullshit.

http://np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24bzz2/whatsexualexperienceareyoumostashamed_of/ch5uzw6

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  • moonflower
  • -7 Points
  • 18:34:44, 9 May

That thread is not from ainbow.

And I do not deny that trans people exist, you have misunderstood what I was saying there ... I was saying that there is no brain structure which has been found to represent gender identity ... people do not literally have ''brains of the opposite sex''.

Also the "correct information" to which I was referring was the statement of fact made in my previous post, which is being downvoted by certain types of people who cannot be reasoned with.

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  • Daemon_of_Mail
  • 3 Points
  • 23:28:23, 9 May

Actually, there are differences in brain folds as they relate to gender, and trans-women have had their brains studied to show that their brains are closer to that of cis women, than cis men. Of course, this doesn't apply to all trans people, and shouldn't be used as determining their gender, but it's still science that works a lot better than your Biology 101 genitalia observance.

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  • moonflower
  • -2 Points
  • 23:32:15, 9 May

So you agree that there is no brain structure which has been found to represent gender identity, and yet you say it as if you are disagreeing with me

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  • Daemon_of_Mail
  • 2 Points
  • 00:02:16, 10 May

> So you agree

Ah-ah-ah, there you go being disingenuous again with your words. You should probably stop that, moonflower.

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  • moonflower
  • -2 Points
  • 07:50:23, 10 May

So are you claiming that there is a brain structure which has been found to represent gender identity? You either agree or you don't, and it sure looked like you agreed with me on that

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  • DblackRabbit
  • 3 Points
  • 13:54:01, 9 May

Oh snap!

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  • radonthrowaway
  • 0 Points
  • 17:14:15, 9 May

Obviously trans women are real women, but the new SJW trend is to pretend they're female, which they aren't, if they were they wouldn't be trans. Some trans women are male, most are intersex.

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  • Daemon_of_Mail
  • 1 Points
  • 17:26:52, 9 May

How do you know they aren't female?

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  • radonthrowaway
  • 2 Points
  • 17:40:49, 9 May
  • the number and type of sex chromosomes;
  • the type of gonads—ovaries or testicles;
  • the sex hormones,
  • the internal reproductive anatomy (such as the uterus in females), and
  • the external genitalia.

one can change hormone levels and external genitals. 2 out of 5.

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  • moonflower
  • -1 Points
  • 17:16:58, 9 May

You were right until the last bit - it's the other way round - the vast majority are biologically male

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  • moonflower
  • -10 Points
  • 14:19:18, 9 May

Actually I never said that, I said they are not biologically female, so it's you who equates ''real woman'' with ''biologically female''

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  • Daemon_of_Mail
  • 8 Points
  • 14:20:38, 9 May

> so it's you who equates ''real woman'' with ''biologically female''

Without proper quotes, you can't just turn this one around on me. Classic bigot tactic, btw.

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  • fb95dd7063
  • 3 Points
  • 12:27:09, 10 May

you just got moonflowered

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  • moonflower
  • -6 Points
  • 14:25:37, 9 May

I have no idea what you mean, I'm telling you that I never said what you accused me of saying ... perhaps if you try to find it you will realise your error and apologise

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  • MonoPrime
  • 1 Points
  • 16:43:32, 9 May

There's something my mother always said that sticks with me: "always be willing to help and make people happy, but there are some people that don't want to be happy."

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  • AnSRSter
  • -7 Points
  • 13:22:52, 9 May

the struggles of a straight ally :'(

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  • moonflower
  • -3 Points
  • 13:23:48, 9 May

I wasn't talking about me, I've never claimed to be either of those things

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  • AnSRSter
  • -5 Points
  • 13:25:39, 9 May

Even if not directed at you personally it's about the complaints made / straight allies who do go on about that.

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  • moonflower
  • -3 Points
  • 14:13:26, 9 May

So don't you agree that a tiny minority of ''LGBT'' people will be hostile to anyone who is outside of their group, no matter what the person does or does not do?

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  • Biffingston
  • 7 Points
  • 14:21:21, 9 May

don't you agree that any section of humanity has assholes in it?

It's not fair to say that that's anything but a tiny subsection of the community.

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  • moonflower
  • 0 Points
  • 14:27:03, 9 May

So you are challenging my statement that it is a tiny minority by saying that it is a tiny minority? That's actually agreeing with me

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  • Biffingston
  • -2 Points
  • 14:32:37, 9 May

No, Im saying that they're the minority. And that thier existance does not represent the whole.

And that that's hardly something unique to the GLBT community. There's always going to be those types of people. And whatever bizarre reason you seem fixated on the minority is pretty irrevelant to the majority.

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  • moonflower
  • -1 Points
  • 14:36:03, 9 May

So you're still agreeing with me, and yet your tone is hostile, as if I said something wrong

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  • Biffingston
  • 3 Points
  • 14:38:11, 9 May

do you really not comperhend "the majority of the GBLT community is not like that?"

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  • AnSRSter
  • 3 Points
  • 14:15:21, 9 May

No I do not agree.

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  • moonflower
  • -5 Points
  • 14:23:39, 9 May

Fair enough, different observations I guess