If the best highschool team in the country had 100 plays on which to score, starting at the 20, could they score against an NFL defense? (self.nfl)

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92 ups - 32 downs = 60 votes

248 comments submitted at 21:27:30 on Apr 6, 2013 by Thunder_Thighs

  • [-]
  • fisticuffs32
  • 50 Points
  • 22:20:37, 6 April

Not even against the saints defense.

  • [-]
  • identitycrisis56
  • 18 Points
  • 23:51:03, 6 April

Great Scott!

That's it! Play highschoolers and we become instantly elite. It would be a huge 180.

  • [-]
  • dovechop
  • 8 Points
  • 01:12:12, 7 April

Your mind would be blown if you knew how many first and second round draft picks play for our defense. Our offense, on the otherhand, is made up of undrafteds, cast-offs, and end-of-the-draft guys.

  • [-]
  • fisticuffs32
  • 14 Points
  • 02:11:24, 7 April

So what are you saying? Your organization sucks at evaluating and developing defensive talent?

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  • Energizer100
  • 14 Points
  • 03:00:34, 7 April

yes

  • [-]
  • randomgamerfreak
  • 1 Points
  • 03:32:12, 7 April

Honesty. I like it.

  • [-]
  • Energizer100
  • 2 Points
  • 05:00:08, 7 April

There are two first round picks that I like that we picked up. Those being Malcolm Jenkins and Cameron Jordan.

Will Smith has not been performing like his 2006 self.

Sedrick Ellis is a FA

Patrick Robinson...oh boy. Besides that 99 Int return TD he has been awful in coverage.

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  • chody55
  • 124 Points
  • 21:35:27, 6 April

I would say no honestly. Even the best highshcool team only has a couple people who have NFL potential and the oldest kids would be 18. Everyone on the NFL side of the ball would be bigger stronger and faster than everyone else. I doubt they would even be able to get a pass off.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 67 Points
  • 21:43:19, 6 April

I say 20 forced fumbles, 40 INTs, 20 plays for a loss, and 3 yards of total gain. By diving on a fumble to recover it.

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  • THE_IRON_KENYAN
  • 32 Points
  • 23:44:07, 6 April

this sounds like von millers christmas list

  • [-]
  • Beerfueled
  • 21 Points
  • 00:09:51, 7 April

More like his to-do list for next season cries in the corner

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  • THE_IRON_KENYAN
  • 1 Points
  • 01:43:04, 7 April

if it were his to do list it would have win the superbowl on it ;) as a consolation prize you get to be the afc championship opponent of the second undefeated team to win the superbowl

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  • Beerfueled
  • 4 Points
  • 02:57:54, 7 April

I hear you man, you're basically saying DREAM TEAM. Can't argue.

^^hhhehehe

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  • fisticuffs32
  • 35 Points
  • 22:19:35, 6 April

And sacks. 40 sacks.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 28 Points
  • 22:22:12, 6 April

*20 Sacks and 20 comas

...And at least 100 concussions.

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  • jn2010
  • 17 Points
  • 22:37:08, 6 April

Don't forget at least 11 injuries. These kids would get crushed.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 26 Points
  • 22:38:46, 6 April

11 per play? I can buy that.

  • [-]
  • jesusinabottle
  • 7 Points
  • 01:09:24, 7 April

What's the over/under on fatalities?

  • [-]
  • Elamitex
  • 4 Points
  • 04:43:25, 7 April

10

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  • UPVOTEMONDAY
  • 5 Points
  • 05:57:24, 7 April

The Geneva Convention was created for situations like this.

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  • Jeepinator
  • 2 Points
  • 00:56:08, 7 April

Probably a few fatalities as well.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 2 Points
  • 01:05:48, 7 April

Honestly that brave highschooler that dived on a fumble to recover it isn't coming out in one piece.

  • [-]
  • danbot
  • 1 Points
  • 07:38:02, 7 April

And maybe a few babalities, and at least one friendship right?

  • [-]
  • BlueSpader
  • 4 Points
  • 02:04:33, 7 April

But how many BUTTFUMBLES?

  • [-]
  • MoreSteakLessFanta
  • 9 Points
  • 03:21:14, 7 April

DID SOMEBODY SAY BUTTFUMBLES?!

  • [-]
  • CiscoCertified
  • 7 Points
  • 03:59:56, 7 April

Every. Damn. Thread.

  • [-]
  • Myles_Davis
  • 4 Points
  • 04:42:50, 7 April

BUTTtality!!!

  • [-]
  • lanismycousin
  • 2 Points
  • 04:05:03, 7 April

Better quality buttfumble

  • [-]
  • indoninjah
  • 15 Points
  • 22:06:36, 6 April

That's true, they could send a 3 man rush and it would probably wreak havoc.

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  • Aeuthentic
  • 18 Points
  • 22:30:56, 6 April

They could just send one and would get pressure

  • [-]
  • JimmyStinkfist
  • 9 Points
  • 05:43:32, 7 April

I'm 100% sure that JJ Watt could take an entire high school o-line.

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  • IBEATUPKIDS
  • 10 Points
  • 03:54:40, 7 April

The QB could just tell the receivers to run to a certain spot and then just throw it up as he's running for his life. They have 100 attempts and don't have to worry about turnovers so they might get one of them.

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  • Pseudonova
  • 21 Points
  • 04:10:17, 7 April

So, basically, the Chief's offense?

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  • IBEATUPKIDS
  • 4 Points
  • 04:15:10, 7 April

):<

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  • Elamitex
  • 3 Points
  • 04:44:03, 7 April

Just with more attempts.

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  • identitycrisis56
  • 1 Points
  • 05:25:55, 7 April

I wish I could laugh at this. I can't.

No room to talk. Thanks ~~Obama~~ Spags.

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  • bullshit_detector_2k
  • 1 Points
  • 06:21:32, 7 April

Hey, we were nice through the Painter era, come on man.

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  • reality_czech
  • 3 Points
  • 04:37:10, 7 April

even if there was a total breakdown and somehow a guy broke loose im 99% sure the majority of starting corners/safetys would chase the guy down before he scored the TD

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  • Pillow_Starcraft
  • 18 Points
  • 23:21:36, 6 April

The NFL team would actually outscore the high school team without even going on offense. It wouldn't be close, either.

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  • CoCo26
  • 72 Points
  • 21:47:40, 6 April

No. Fucking. Chance. A cb in the nfl would demolish a hs linemen. There is no chance.

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  • Mr-Mojo-rising
  • 7 Points
  • 23:25:48, 6 April

whats an average CB like 190? I played with some linemen who were around 300 a pop who went to D 1 schools. I think no.

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  • xdmxyl35
  • 32 Points
  • 23:49:47, 6 April

idk man high school athletes are raw and for the most part pretty undeveloped physically and mentally. i think there's a good chance of a professional athlete weighing 190 laying out a barely amateur athlete weighing 300. their frames have potential and girth, but they are boys and not yet finely tuned machines like the full grown men they'll be up against. not to mention technique, skill, explosiveness. they're not even in the same category.

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  • Luckynumberlucas
  • 6 Points
  • 00:25:33, 7 April

Maybe 20 years ago. Nowadays highschoolers are huge and strong.

Some HS player from texas just set a powerlifting record.

Most of the 5 star recruits go on to start as true freshmen in college.

honestly, i dont even think an nfl corner can "lay out" a regular 300 lbs man in terms of blocking/pass rush.

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  • Balticataz
  • 9 Points
  • 02:04:48, 7 April

A cb probably couldnt, but even the 300 lbs 5 star o-lineman would have huge issues blocking the 230-250 linebackers let alone the actual d-lineman.

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  • TyroneofAfrica
  • 6 Points
  • 04:10:30, 7 April

Only 52.5% of 5-stars make the NFL. A team full of 5-stars would be the only way they score MAYBE.

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  • atchman25
  • 1 Points
  • 02:09:19, 7 April

That's if he's going up against their best lineman, on a highschool team their is going to be a pretty weak point in their line and I can see a CB get through that a few times.

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  • griffsterb
  • 1 Points
  • 06:51:09, 7 April

Yeah the cb would be WAY faster and more agile. But there are HSers who can bench 400+ and squat 600+. They aren't 'undeveloped physically'. I doubt an NFL corner would crush a top HS lineman. But the point is moot, the team would get annihilated either way.

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  • glatts
  • 8 Points
  • 00:40:41, 7 April

I played o-line in high school and at an FCS (D-1AA) college. I met with numerous coaches and they all told me if I wasn't so short (I'm 5'10"), I could have had my pick of any school. I set all the powerlifting records in my state and surrounding states. I've had a bunch of friends go on and play for big D-1 programs and even the NFL. The jump from high school up to college is tremendous. Even all these five star recruits compete against others who will never be good enough to play in college, so a high school game is very easy. Throw them on the field against pros, they will be hit like they've never been hit before. They would get their asses kicked.

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  • lamada16
  • 2 Points
  • 01:39:19, 7 April

Except they all bench and squad 275+ at least.

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  • wichitagnome
  • 1 Points
  • 04:53:59, 7 April

But you have to think, that 190 is pure muscle and fitness and years of skill to know exactly how to use leverage. High School O-Line, not quite. Even though an O-Lineman from an elite high school will probably be in much better shape than my high school's O-Line, its all leverage.

In high school, I weighed about 130 (with a wrestling background) and could hold my own against people twice my weight who had no idea what they were doing. The point is, the NFL training would easily make up the weight difference.

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  • TheBlackBear
  • 1 Points
  • 00:03:51, 7 April

exactly.

I was sort of surprised people could actually consider otherwise. fuck, the best high school probably wouldn't even last like ten plays against an NFL defense

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  • unceunceunce
  • 41 Points
  • 21:36:56, 6 April

The receivers wouldn't be able to get past press coverage and the line would get demolished, so no.

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  • eziam
  • 36 Points
  • 21:38:04, 6 April

The offensive line would be destroyed.

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  • chody55
  • 44 Points
  • 21:52:17, 6 April

Now imagine who the Runningback was/is for your highschool. Now imagine Parick Willis meeting 18 year old him head on in a hole. R.I.P.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 47 Points
  • 21:59:22, 6 April

Is this the plot for Final Destination 6?

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  • Caesar_Epicus
  • 14 Points
  • 23:09:13, 6 April

In my senior year our starting RB was a freshman. About 5'5, 140ish lbs. I think he would die.

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  • AbsoluteGlosk
  • 3 Points
  • 01:00:53, 7 April

140 lbs for a running back?? I was a receiver in high school and weighed 40 lbs more than that. And our running backs were tanks compared to me.

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  • Wallsie
  • 13 Points
  • 04:49:46, 7 April

Not all teams are good.

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  • clumptrees
  • 1 Points
  • 05:44:30, 7 April

I was about 240 250, and I lined up back there every once in a while.

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  • MegaZambam
  • 1 Points
  • 06:47:48, 7 April

My school's guards rarely got above 200.

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  • TripStep
  • 2 Points
  • 03:44:19, 7 April

You may have described the nightmare of thousands of second string High School RB's across the US.

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  • Golden_Taint
  • 5 Points
  • 22:32:28, 6 April

Oh hell yes. They could rush three and crush the entire o-line instantly on every play. I would actually pay money to see this match up.

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  • Kyle901
  • 6 Points
  • 00:25:50, 7 April

That money would have to go to the hospital bills for the poor youngins.

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  • Ravenstown6
  • 26 Points
  • 21:33:10, 6 April

100 qb sneaks.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 66 Points
  • 21:42:28, 6 April

So many dead highschoolers :(

  • [-]
  • realnigga4lyfe
  • 123 Points
  • 22:58:49, 6 April

NFL Co[lu]mbine

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  • anseyoh
  • 16 Points
  • 00:00:54, 7 April

Guiltiest upvote of the day...

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  • chinadonkey
  • 6 Points
  • 03:58:54, 7 April

Eh, I a) went to high school a few miles away from Columbine, b) was a freshman when it happened and c) knew a lot of people from middle school who were there. I upvoted him without an ounce of guilt.

Columbine, friend of mine...jokes will make you funny in time

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  • Arrow218
  • 1 Points
  • 06:40:58, 7 April

I lived right by Columbine when it happened, too.

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  • Trapped_SCV
  • 8 Points
  • 23:53:09, 6 April

I thought it was a team of 100 high schoolers.

I was like well you could have 8 kids block each nfl player so probably.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 8 Points
  • 00:11:11, 7 April

just throwing kids at the rusher's legs hoping he trips haha

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  • Raktoner
  • 26 Points
  • 23:17:47, 6 April

Yes.

Kick a field goal.

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  • hyperbolical
  • 7 Points
  • 23:31:02, 6 April

Depends if the high school team has an actual kicker, 37 yards is not a gimme at that level. Assuming it doesn't get blocked also.

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  • DiggingNoMore
  • 10 Points
  • 01:07:35, 7 April

Use the long snapper to get it further back and kick a 45 yard field goal. Less chance of being blocked and the kicker can probably go 1 for 100 from 45 yards out.

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  • R99
  • 1 Points
  • 01:20:57, 7 April

My friend when he was 13 made a 37 yarder in a game. Although, it was off a tee as high school and below use tees while holding.. I believe college does as well.

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  • Arrow218
  • 3 Points
  • 06:41:34, 7 April

No, not college.

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  • TheColorBagel
  • 2 Points
  • 02:32:52, 7 April

This is the most likely way they'd score, as long as it's allowed. The question is the best high school team...is it just some high school team ranked #1 in the country or a combination of all the best players in the country. As long as the offensive lineman were large enough to delay the inevitable onslaught, I'd say a kicker could get off at least 25 kicks out of 100, then probably hit at least half of those.

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  • DogLoverMichaelVick
  • 35 Points
  • 21:28:37, 6 April

I'm going to say yes just because anything can happen during those 100 plays, but it's not like it would be easy.

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  • tee2green
  • 10 Points
  • 22:26:55, 6 April

I agree. Would the game be close? Hell fucking no. But they could score.

If the line is getting bulldozed, then you can swing a flare pass out to the RB and have him pick up some loose yards. And every defense has breakdowns from time to time that could give up a big play. The best HS players are actually pretty damn good. Jadeveon Clowney, Reggie Bush, and DGB probably could've gone pro out of HS.

EDIT: Dudes, every season you see powerhouse programs like USC, OSU, and Alabama go up against scrawny nearby schools that are barely in the FBS. Is every game a complete shutout? No, a 60-10 romp still means they gave up points. And on fewer than 100 plays, too. I know we are talking NFL vs. HS here, so it's definitely a step up, but you can't rule out the fact that teams who are overmatched at literally every position still manage to score points from broken plays, cute little misdirection tactics, etc. There's a lot of chaos in this game, even at the pro level.

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  • 088
  • 17 Points
  • 22:49:37, 6 April

''Clowney, Reggie Bush, and DGB probably could've gone pro out of HS.''

Hell no. DGB couldnt even play college football last year

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  • Iamostrich
  • 7 Points
  • 01:33:05, 7 April

No. You're wrong. There's no chance. In hell. Alabama is playing other 22 year olds (big difference from 18), and they don't give always give up points, especially if they really don't want to. You're talking about 25 year old professional NFL players going up against 17-18 year olds, who at best have 2-3 guys who are ready to start from day 1 in D-1 college ball.

It would be a bloodbath.

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  • big_fig
  • 6 Points
  • 23:19:55, 6 April

It's not gonna be like the line getting bulldozed in the NFL though, its gonna be 2 or 3 guys destroying 5 or 6 blockers on the line. there will be a defender covering every rb and the qb will be contained.

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  • xdmxyl35
  • 4 Points
  • 00:00:59, 7 April

a flare pass out to an rb that will have a professional linebacker (or two) on top of him? the defense could do anything. man press, even without safety help if they feel like blitzing db's. it really doesn't matter what they do. i think for every yard gained they lose 3 or 4 or even more. i don't see many positive plays coming out of it.

even if reggie bush or any of them could have played ball out of high school, you put adrian peterson behind a high school offensive line with a high school quarterback and high school receivers and he's probably not breaking the 20 yard mark.

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  • CoCo26
  • 1 Points
  • 00:52:08, 7 April

There's a difference between college and college and hs and nfl

  • [-]
  • Completebeast
  • 1 Points
  • 06:41:21, 7 April

Guys, the downvote button does not mean "I disagree"

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  • lalit008
  • 1 Points
  • 22:48:03, 6 April

Lol, if clowneys team played against an NFL team right now he would be a non factor. If anything I guarantee you the NFL team is going to test him every play because of all the hype

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  • wyzzyzz
  • 7 Points
  • 21:39:32, 6 April

No they'd get pushed behind their own goal line for a safety after a play or two.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 9 Points
  • 22:03:32, 6 April

I assumed OP meant the NFL team's 20, but that doesn't make you any less right imo.

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  • TacoExcellence
  • 8 Points
  • 00:34:26, 7 April

No, he means the high school team would lose 80 yards in two plays.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 5 Points
  • 00:37:17, 7 April

Which isn't even that unrealistic...as the high school O-line collapses under the pressure of a well designed one-man rush the QB turns and sprints, desperately looking for time and space to find a receiver. He gets sacked for a 40 yard loss.

The most unrealistic thing about all that is there is no way the QB escapes for 40 yards in any direction.

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  • TacoExcellence
  • 3 Points
  • 00:43:45, 7 April

Oh I know, I was just being an ass.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 2 Points
  • 00:49:33, 7 April

haha I was joking too.

...That QB better take a knee every time if he wants to make it to college.

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  • ikissgirls
  • 6 Points
  • 22:19:53, 6 April

If they took the high school under armour all american team, then would they be able to score?

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  • Kyle901
  • 2 Points
  • 00:28:23, 7 April

No

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  • Jaqen_Hghar_
  • 6 Points
  • 22:02:54, 6 April

There's more of a chance the defense scores.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 7 Points
  • 22:25:16, 6 April

Seriously, I'd expect at least 40 INTs and 50 sacks. Unless they choose to blitz, then the death toll rises...

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  • NotLocke
  • 5 Points
  • 04:01:56, 7 April

No, there'd be more injuries than the Patriots playing against a team of 11 Bernard Pollards

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  • wichitagnome
  • 1 Points
  • 04:56:15, 7 April

Bernard Pollard jokes are some of my favorites. Earlier in the offseason when it looked like him coming to the AFC East, I would make the joke with my Patriots friends that if he did sign with the Dolphins/Jets/Bills the entire Pats team should request trades.

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  • Fuqwon
  • 9 Points
  • 22:37:29, 6 April

In no conceivable way and I think there would be a serious risk of a kid being dangerously injured.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 11 Points
  • 22:54:11, 6 April

a kid?

All kids. Multiple times.

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  • Fuqwon
  • 25 Points
  • 23:12:15, 6 April

Well see, on the first play from scrimmage I see JJ Watt or Geno Atkins picking some kid up by the ankles and using him like a club to beat the QB, killing him.

After that I figure they'd stop the game.

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  • Moruitelda
  • 7 Points
  • 23:25:04, 6 April

That sounds more like Ndamukong Suh, Bernard Pollard, or Brandon Spikes.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 7 Points
  • 00:13:14, 7 April

The image of Bernard Pollard unleashed at a team of high schoolers made me shudder.

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  • HiveNode
  • 2 Points
  • 07:13:06, 7 April

Now imagine it's a Boston high school.

Did that one make you pee yourself?

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  • Arrow218
  • 1 Points
  • 06:42:42, 7 April

Pollard-bine

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  • VinceViegel
  • 4 Points
  • 00:11:56, 7 April

I can't stop laughing right now lmao

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  • Beerfueled
  • 2 Points
  • 00:14:46, 7 April

JJ Watt's 1-man rush

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  • DiggingNoMore
  • 1 Points
  • 01:03:03, 7 April

That still sounds like injuring two kids.

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  • JakeLehmannTattoo
  • 4 Points
  • 22:25:19, 6 April

No. Players, not plays.

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  • anseyoh
  • 4 Points
  • 23:42:49, 6 April

This question can be re-framed as "how many (if any) takeaways would an NFL defense get against the best high school offense in the country in 100 tries?"

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  • ckenns41
  • 4 Points
  • 01:20:38, 7 April

The biggest game changer would be the lines. No high school player could go head to head with an NFL defensive lineman. The quarterback would be out of the game within 10 plays at the most. Honestly the entire high school team would probably be out with injuries before all the plays could be run.

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  • avocategory
  • 6 Points
  • 22:13:27, 6 April

So, it depends on how you deal with safeties, interceptions, and fumbles. If you just keep playing, with the high schoolers keeping the ball, then they've got a slim chance of scoring, just by utilizing trick plays to get their fastest guy to grab yards here and there.

If any of those would end the game, then zero chance, because one of those three things is going to happen before a score, 100 times out of 100.

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  • winemaster
  • 6 Points
  • 00:19:57, 7 April

Some NFL teams wouldn't score with 100 chances from the 20.

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  • TouchdownTom19
  • 1 Points
  • 01:12:20, 7 April

Jets

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  • CraigDavidsuperfan
  • 3 Points
  • 22:13:08, 6 April

Nope, the O line would all get destroyed on the first play.

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  • SangsterJ
  • 3 Points
  • 22:57:29, 6 April

Touchback 20, or opposite team 20?

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  • Broshank
  • 3 Points
  • 02:49:00, 7 April

You only need to go 80 yards. In 100 plays. Give an immediate toss after the snap and have that poor receiver slide to the ground after only a yard. Over and over until TD. Only way that nobody gets murdered.

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  • scycon
  • 2 Points
  • 05:56:47, 7 April

That'll work two times before an NFL DB jumps the route and picks it. Zero chance this is a viable strategy.

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  • MK10
  • 6 Points
  • 22:42:37, 6 April

No, anyone saying who said yes doesn't have the a good comprehension to know the huge talent/skill/intelligence gap between a high school player and a pro. This is like asking if a PeeWee team can score against a bunch of middle schoolers.

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  • ja109
  • 5 Points
  • 03:52:03, 7 April

I honestly think pee wee could score against middle schoolers since its only about a year or two off from middle school.

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  • FlopCityClipps
  • 3 Points
  • 05:06:50, 7 April

Solid work on the analogy by MK10.

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  • mateorayo
  • 1 Points
  • 07:01:37, 7 April

My 8th grade team could have beaten some varsity hs teams. our gurds were like 200lbs, our tackle were like 240. I was the TE and i was 5'11'' 175. our QB was the fastest kid in the history of children

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  • VintageRudy
  • 7 Points
  • 23:13:47, 6 April

This is so deliciously off-season ;-)

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  • mooneman
  • 4 Points
  • 21:46:10, 6 April

I would be surprised if the HS team could get 1 Yard against a NFL D.

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  • yovngjvred
  • 2 Points
  • 23:05:14, 6 April

Fuck no. High school KIDS can't handle playing against grown men. What's a 17 year old look like trying to compete against a guy 22 or older? They'd get demolished

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  • form_an_opinion
  • 2 Points
  • 03:05:40, 7 April

I'm pretty sure that the physical domination of the bigger, stronger, faster and better trained players would be such that only sheer luck would result in anything positive. Not only do I think the high school team would fail to score, but I think the professional defense would probably score a couple safeties in the mean time.

Edit: Depends on which 20 you speak of. If you mean the red zone, then its entirely possible they could score by kicking a field goal if they executed it perfectly. The chances of a block or a miss would be pretty damned high though. A touchdown, though.. That's almost out of the question. Only by sheer luck, by throwing the ball really high in the air out of the shotgun (immediately after catching it) and hoping for a tipped ball caught in the end zone.

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  • GoroOfMelnibone
  • 2 Points
  • 03:24:09, 7 April

The question in pitting high schoolers against NFL players should be how many of them would NOT be injured in those 100 plays.

Consider how many true freshman start and then how many are impact players. Even the 18-19 yo who have good size 6'5", 290 lbs or so still have nowhere near the strength, aggressiveness, and technique to deal with NFL players.

For line play, it may surprise some people to see exactly how nasty and brutal the hand fighting is on the inside. I've seen Richard Seymour do some scary things like throw his hand into an OG's throat.

And everyone knows about the famous Tim Krumrie slap drills that put the best NFL prospects to their knees.

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  • njm1314
  • 0 Points
  • 03:59:28, 7 April

>who have good size 6'5", 290 lbs or

Even with that "size" they are not the same. NFL players have been training for years in million dollar facilities with world class trainers focusing with insane specialization on every single muscle needed for optimum explosive capability. That high school kid has trained a bit too, but there is more than a bit of cheetos and mountain dew in there.

Size isn't equal.

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  • easyantic
  • 3 Points
  • 04:22:53, 7 April

One only has to point to the 1916 Georgia Tech Vs Cumberland college football game to get an idea. Cumberland's football team team folded that year, but were made by John Heisman to assemble a football team to face GT.

GT 222 Cumberland 0
Rushing: Georgia Tech 978 yards, Cumberland -42
Passing: Georgia Tech 0 for 0. Cumberland 2 for 18 for 14 yards and 6 interceptions
Turnovers: Georgia Tech 0, Cumberland 15

For my money, a top HS team would fare much worse than even this against an NFL team.

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  • PaulTheOctopus
  • 3 Points
  • 23:01:45, 6 April

I really really doubt it. This is Jadaveon Clowney as a senior in high school, and he just WRECKS offensive linemen.

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  • FloeJacco
  • 3 Points
  • 01:25:53, 7 April

I think we should hold a moment of silence for all the unfortunate souls that had to play that monster

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  • abetadist
  • 1 Points
  • 04:35:54, 7 April

And an NFL team has at least 4x linemen that are as good as or better than High School Jadaveon Clowney. That poor offensive line.

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  • Moruitelda
  • 1 Points
  • 23:28:16, 6 April

In defense of the question, Jadaveon Clowney was as good as some depth NFL defensive linemen at that point. And those are not the offensive linemen on the best high school team in the country. Far from it.

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  • throawayforthisjoke
  • 3 Points
  • 00:52:15, 7 April

There would be so many dead highschoolers, the field would look like the library at Columbine High School

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  • baz1860
  • 3 Points
  • 21:41:38, 6 April

Serious answer: Probably - You'd figure that the top HS QB in the country might be able to throw the perfect fade to the back corner of the endzone over a small(ish) NFL CB.

Snarky answer: If they went for the FG on 100th down, possibly. But I suppose that's really scoring against special teams rather than an NFL defense.

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  • TheMallNinja
  • 9 Points
  • 21:51:26, 6 April

>You'd figure that the top HS QB in the country might be able to throw the perfect fade to the back corner of the endzone over a small(ish) NFL CB.

I doubt the offensive line would be able to block long enough for the QB to make that play.

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  • chody55
  • 14 Points
  • 21:55:31, 6 April

Not to mention the wide receiver being able to get off the line of scrimmage to make the catch.

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  • tee2green
  • 3 Points
  • 22:29:29, 6 April

Really? Three step drop? The line would get hammered but they are still in the way.

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  • IshouldDoMyHomework
  • 7 Points
  • 00:06:17, 7 April

A top NFL DT is usually a 300++ lb, fast as shit, super explosive of line and generally a mean motherfucker. Not even counting technique, you need grown ass man to stop that.

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  • m_fromm
  • 2 Points
  • 22:47:20, 6 April

Footwork just isn't there. Your edge rushers will run right by the tackles almost every play. Put a big DT in the middle and he just bulldozes everyone else. 4 man rush would be even harder, and if you just wanted to murder everyone you could blitz.

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  • TheMallNinja
  • 2 Points
  • 22:55:45, 6 April

I have to agree with chody55, that the receiver wouldn't be able to run his route.

Besides that, I think you're underestimating how badly the line would get beat. Imagine the eagles line matching up against Broncos or Cincinatti. Except that instead of being the age they are now, the Eagles lineman are high school age. It's like five times worse than that, because how many high school teams have a full line of guys who could even have a chance of being a backup on an NFL team? This article's breakdown of Von Miller's sack is a good example of how being much faster off the ball is a huge advantage for a pass rusher. Now imagine if three defensive lineman were consistently faster off the ball, and were much bigger than the O-lineman, and had much more refined technique. The size and power difference would be so much that they wouldn't have to do much except just bull rush the lineman straight back to the QB.

Plus, could even the best high-school QB deliver the ball in the face of that kind of pressure?

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  • nevillebanks
  • 1 Points
  • 06:10:23, 7 April

You are seriously underestimating how long it will take a WR to get off the line against a NFL CB, and precede to get 20 yards down the field.

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  • Lezzles
  • 1 Points
  • 23:27:01, 6 April

MAYBE if you built this high school team out of the country's best high school players. Don't forget that 2 years ago, Clowney was in high school at like 6'7 destroying kids. I think a high school all star team could do it. Not easily, mind you. I think the biggest thing would be finding the 5 linemen who could block long enough for the WRs to get downfield. Also if it was the Lions defense...I mean we had Jacob Lacey on our team. I don't even know if he'd play for this super high school.

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  • scycon
  • 1 Points
  • 06:04:29, 7 April

There's an ENORMOUS difference between destroying high school kids and even one step up to college athletes let alone NFL players. He's an incredibly good college player but it's not like he's never been shut down at the college level. He didn't even put up the best numbers on his team his freshman year despite playing every game. He was still a BEAST his freshman year but you are greatly underestimating the talent gap between the best high school players and worst NFL players. A huge amount of growth happens (strength and conditioning as well as being a student of the game) between your senior year of high school and NFL draft day.

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  • Random_Heero
  • 1 Points
  • 23:32:24, 6 April

What if your high school started will middlebrooks at qb and lamichael James at rb?

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  • Staple_Overlord
  • 1 Points
  • 00:15:45, 7 April

When I was a little boy I would say that even a high school team could beat the Lions. I've matured a bit, but looking at the 0-16 Lions, I would say that there could have been a chance.

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  • yakkers09
  • 1 Points
  • 00:18:45, 7 April

Depends what nfl team.

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  • Bronan_the_Brobarian
  • 1 Points
  • 00:35:34, 7 April

Jadeveon Clowney at Running Back, against the Packers run D

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  • rianad
  • 2 Points
  • 00:38:12, 7 April

I will say yes, I will be sending the Field goal unit out every down.

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  • TacoExcellence
  • 1 Points
  • 00:41:53, 7 April

I would pay a lot of money to watch this game. But I'd want my money back if a kid died on the first play and they called off the game.

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  • Zephyrkills
  • 2 Points
  • 00:42:32, 7 April

It would have to be a miracle.

They might barely pull it off if they were able to do trick plays effectively.

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  • DiggingNoMore
  • 1 Points
  • 00:42:48, 7 April

Could they try 100 field goals from the 20?

Also, does every play start at the 20, or do they pick up each play from where the previous play ended? What happens on turnovers?

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  • Natural_Genius
  • 2 Points
  • 01:09:51, 7 April

Yes. Run 50 or so junk plays with second stringers. Fake injuries to slowly get your starters in there. Run a flare play, lateral it back, hope for the best.

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  • R99
  • 1 Points
  • 01:14:33, 7 April

What would happen if they fumble or throw an interception? Game over? Restart with the ball at the 20?

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  • sicknarlo
  • 1 Points
  • 01:18:54, 7 April

No.

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  • McClain3000
  • 1 Points
  • 01:25:08, 7 April

No they would be crushed they would probably not even be able to finish the 100 plays due to injury.

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  • sicknarlo
  • 1 Points
  • 01:25:31, 7 April

I think the easy answer to this question lies in Clowney's HS highlight feel. Look at what a single NFL ready player is capable of before playing a few years at a high college level that still isn't close to what the NFL is like.

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  • blackhawks224
  • 1 Points
  • 01:28:09, 7 April

They could probably score 42 on the silly nannies

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  • Iamostrich
  • 1 Points
  • 01:29:43, 7 April

They couldn't score on an NFL 3rd string offense being forced to play D. No chance.

Put them up against a real defense and they wouldn't gain a yard.

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  • McClain3000
  • 1 Points
  • 01:37:36, 7 April

Everybody is talking O-line vs D-line which is valid but also no high school WR is getting slightly open against a CB from the NFL. A shitty high school WR is on a team that probably averages 10 passes a game vs a defense that works on defending passes 8 hrs a day 5 days a week.

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  • RonMexico69
  • 1 Points
  • 06:41:34, 7 April

lol wat? Passing is a big part of H.S. football. My team probably passed on half our plays. Also we had two guys who ran sub 4.4 40s. I'm sure we would have gotten our asses handed to us on 95 of those plays, but it isn't unreasonable to think that a quick wide out could get lucky on a couple tight cuts.

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  • CoachChris
  • 1 Points
  • 01:38:06, 7 April

I honestly think they would score at some point. Obviously it would not be on a run. It would have to be a giant receiver catching a perfect quick pass to avoid the D line coming through (obviously they would destroy the O line) and managing to make a couple guys miss. SUPER UNLIKELY, but I think it could happen.

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  • oaktownraider13
  • 1 Points
  • 01:43:35, 7 April

Lol no. Even if the team were made up of future nfl players they're under 18 for the most part. Their bodies simply aren't able to do the things nfl players can do, let alone what they train to do for a living. This is like asking of a pop Warner team could take on that same high school team

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  • mttwldngr
  • 1 Points
  • 01:49:30, 7 April

In the absence of any fluke plays, there's not a chance in hell they even make it past the 50.

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  • Frankenstooge
  • 1 Points
  • 01:56:08, 7 April

Yes, and they would score 100 times.

-Maurice Clarett

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  • Balticataz
  • 1 Points
  • 02:12:04, 7 April

If you guys want context for the difference between high school and pros to understand.

JaDeveon Clowney in high school

JaDeveon Clowney now

T Sizzle

The muscle mass difference is insane not to mention the technique and game knowledge.

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  • atchman25
  • 1 Points
  • 02:14:23, 7 April

Now I want to see the NFL All-Pro team play a highschool team. Oh the domination.

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  • elfonzi
  • 1 Points
  • 02:16:20, 7 April

I would say yes if you can find the best high school kicker in the country and have him kicking it from the 45 he may be able to make one and get a kick off with a 25 yard buffer.

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  • JupitersClock
  • 1 Points
  • 02:33:32, 7 April

No. A Highschool offensive line would get destroyed.

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  • Suddenly_Something
  • 1 Points
  • 02:35:08, 7 April

I predict the offensive line literally disintegrating after the snap within a few seconds.

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  • waterover
  • 1 Points
  • 02:49:44, 7 April

Only if the high school team can use the Auto-11 offense, and they have JD McCoy and Matt Saracen on the team.

Shut up. I miss that show.

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  • omnicidial
  • 1 Points
  • 02:55:57, 7 April

From the 20? Most high school teams could kick one field goal out of 100 attempts from the 20.

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  • IBEATUPKIDS
  • 1 Points
  • 03:51:01, 7 April

I would give it about a 2% chance. The QB would have less than 2 seconds every play before being crushed by NFL defensive ends. Eventually one of the corners would stumble and if the QB could actually get the ball off they might have a chance at a jump ball vs the safety.

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  • njm1314
  • 1 Points
  • 03:51:55, 7 April

Had a discussion on an obliquely relate subject earlier today. Even if that high school team had two or three guys who would one day make it to the NFL (which is highly unlikely), they still are not ready for the NFL yet. Forget all the techniques, strategies, experience, and muscle memory that these guys have yet to develop. Just physically they are in no way ready.

The guy I was talking to said that Jadaveon Clowney coming out of high school would have been a top ten pick. That is beyond stupid. Just look at him in high school as opposed to in college. Look at that body difference after just a year and a half to two years in a college training program. And he was widely regarded as a freak in high school, on a high school team how many are even that developed? You want to put high school kids against players that have not only had four years of college training, but NFL training? An even more strenuous regimen? Slaughter.

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  • Hawk_Irontusk
  • 1 Points
  • 03:52:29, 7 April

Yes. From the 20, I'm sure they could get at least one field goal in 100 tries.

EDIT: Assuming it's the opposing team's 20. From their own, there's not a chance in hell of scoring.

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  • theoriginalpapo
  • 1 Points
  • 03:59:37, 7 April

yes

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  • scycon
  • 1 Points
  • 06:31:17, 7 April

Too bad the high school QB would be running for his life in a live situation and would have to read an NFL defense if he even has enough time to make a read. The speed of the game alone at the NFL level is enough to say no to this question. Even the best college QBs have have difficulty adjusting to NFL speed and coverages for the first time. A high school QB doesn't stand a chance. He probably doesn't even have enough composure, arm strength or accuracy to make a completion against something like an NFL zone blitz.

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  • lift_heavy64
  • 1 Points
  • 04:12:07, 7 April

No, and every one of the high schoolers would be horribly injured.

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  • MrAppendages
  • 1 Points
  • 04:23:48, 7 April

I'm coming off my senior year playing in high school and we had this conversation one day at practice. We decided with our team no because our O-Line was too small (I was the biggest at 6'7, 220lb), however we had 5 players who ran a 4.5 or better so it is conceivable that we do break off a big run or two. If the high school gets an NFL coach there is a legitimate shot at scoring a touchdown.

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  • nld242
  • 1 Points
  • 04:32:32, 7 April

I don't think so. Even the worst team is made up of people who were the best in high school, went on to be the best in college, made it onto a team and were one of the best 53 there.

When I hear this I think of that idea during the olympics that we should have one normal person compete so we realize just how good the Olympians are. I think in this case the defense would probably score on 60+% of the plays. I don't think the injuries would even allow 100 plays to happen if the pro team was playing to their potential.

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  • hahaz13
  • 1 Points
  • 04:56:56, 7 April

Everyone's doubting the high schoolers, but honestly, it's POSSIBLE, but not likely.

The key here is the 100 plays. What defense has the stamina to play 100 straight plays (albeit against a high school offense). You also have to think about the kids, yes they maybe young, but you could have some absolute monsters available (think Lebron when he played TE in high school).

It's possible, but unlikely. Not impossible though.

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  • scycon
  • 1 Points
  • 06:46:47, 7 April

What 18 year old is even physically conditioned to run 100 full contact plays against NFL players who have been on world class training regiments for longer than some of these kids have even been playing football? I'd be more worried about the stamina and physical health of the 18 year old kids who haven't even finished naturally growing.

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  • FlopCityClipps
  • 1 Points
  • 05:05:31, 7 April

Is this simulation. Or do the players have to actually be on the field? I'd venture to say most HS players will be out within the first 10 snaps. Anyone who gets near the ball downfield will be destroyed immediately. Maybe if the refs call a PI in the endzone then they can just switch up the snap count and try to get away with a Brady sneak. Or just kick it from the 20. Kicking counts right? It's still scoring. Redzone scoring is more than just great excecution you can get lucky if there is a defensive breakdown but honestly the talent level is so different I can see the NFL players recovering every time.

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  • RaidersLakersDodgers
  • 1 Points
  • 05:13:06, 7 April

Richard Sherman would get scored on by a middle schooler.

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  • sch6808
  • 1 Points
  • 05:22:27, 7 April

How about a team of the best highschool players ever at each of their respective positions against the worst defense ever in the NFL?

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  • scycon
  • 1 Points
  • 05:45:18, 7 April

No there is a very good reason you have to be out of high school for 3 years before declaring for the draft. At 18 you aren't even entirely physically developed and players physical condition alone grows A LOT in the 3 years they spend on a NCAA training program at a Division-I school and playing against that level of talent. Even the techniques and nuances they learn during their time in college is probably a huge step from high school. Even from a pure numbers stand point the number of players who make it past college to the pros is very, very small. I'd put life savings on the NFL defense. Finding a single team in America right now that has eleven 18 year old KIDS on a single offensive unit that can play to the level of an NFL defense? I'd let the high school team start at the 50 and give them 100 plays and still be confident in the NFL defense. They aren't even conditioned enough to handle running 100 full contact plays without injury against the worst NFL defense of grown men who were good enough to be one of the 1.7% of college football athletes who even make it past the NFL draft each year. Think about this, only 6.6% of High school players get the chance to play NCAA football and only .08% of high school players make it to the pros which includes career backups, benchwarmers and busts who still dominated at the level above high school.

Zero chance. This question actually gets more preposterous every second I think about it. They wouldn't even get into field goal range if they're lucky enough to net positive yards and even if they did I doubt they could even kick a field goal without it being blocked. Don't even get me started on the gigantic leap between even high school and college x's and o's let alone NFL x's and o's. Top college prospects have trouble adjusting to the speed of the game coming out of college, just imagine a high school QB facing his first NFL zone blitz. That kid doesn't stand a chance in hell at making a completion or possibly even the correct read on it before he's sacked by the line backer who just put the QBs lineman on a swivel. If he does get the ball out of his hands 99/100 times it'd probably be either incomplete or picked.

Stats taken from: http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/pdfs/2011/2011+probability+of+going+pro

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  • AgentBarcode
  • 2 Points
  • 05:53:09, 7 April

No way, it'd be a bloodbath. The field would just be the mangled corpses of kids.

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  • sheeeeeez
  • 1 Points
  • 06:10:15, 7 April

This answer in this thread is stupid. The answer is yes.

I'm guessing a number of trick plays might fool them.

NFL players are better, faster and stronger but the coach could be smarter.

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  • RonMexico69
  • 0 Points
  • 06:29:05, 7 April

I'm going to say they absolutely could, especially if they get to keep any yardage gained. I know a handful of kids who played H.S. football that are faster than most NFL players. If we are talking a top H.S. team, I'm betting the QB has a pretty decent arm and could get the ball where it needs to be, quickly. NFL corners are good, yeah, but they are still human. I have no doubt they would get tricked by a few good cuts against a fast WR over the course of 100 plays.

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  • getnutty
  • 1 Points
  • 06:32:19, 7 April

No. You're talking about 23 year old men against 18 year old boys. Even if it was the underamour all american game, those kids would get wrecked. Your run game would be non existent due to the pure size of defensive linemen. A NFL CB jam alone would ruin a high school WR. Look at rivals ratings and stats - the top ranked WR's are like 6'3 180lbs.. they're skinny as shit and put on weight in their years at college.

The defense could just zero blitz you every play because the CB's can cover any WR and your o-line wouldn't be able to create any holes against these huge ass defensive lineman.

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  • BirdBathandBeyond
  • 1 Points
  • 06:40:31, 7 April

Ngata almost kills NFL running backs when he gets a clean shot. If he could get a run up on a 17 year old kid it would end the game.

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  • aidsfarts
  • 1 Points
  • 06:50:55, 7 April

no, not even close

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  • HiveNode
  • 1 Points
  • 07:09:48, 7 April

Man these offseason threads get shittier every day. I JUST WANT FOOTBALL TO START AGAIN

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  • Bykimus
  • 1 Points
  • 07:26:07, 7 April

Most NFL players are in the primes of their lives. They're absolutely monstrous physically, especially defense. So no, I'm pretty sure a highschool team wouldn't leave the field without every one of them getting injured.

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  • MasterBaetenTron
  • 1 Points
  • 07:44:14, 7 April

Absolutely not. The key here is the offensive line. There is no offensive line in the history of high school football that could keep an NFL defense out of the backfield long enough to even get back to the line of scrimmage.

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  • Kcrofton
  • 1 Points
  • 23:05:03, 6 April

no....just no....even the worst NFL defense would smoke any high school team...ive had arguments about whether or not Alabama would hold up against the worst nfl teams and its still not even close...