Ok r/Japan I need some concrete answers about moving to Japan. (self.japan)

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27 ups - 4 downs = 23 votes

First, I'll be moving to Japan in mid February and I still have a number of questions that I can't really seem to find any answers to.

  1. Banking. I'll be moving there to work and pay off my student loans. I need to know which banks are best for dealing with foreigners, since I'll probably be operating out of two banks (one in the states and one in Japan).

  2. Phones. For obvious reasons I won't be taking my cell phone with me so that means I'll need a new plan. I plan to be in Japan for only a year, so I'm looking for the cheapest and easiest way to own a cell phone. What company should I go through?

  3. Health Insurance This one has been bugging me because I can't find a whole lot about it. What are the costs like? Do companies usually help foreigners with this type of thing? I'll be a single male if that helps estimating costs.

  4. Utilities and Internet Are utility and internet companies usually good with foreigners? What will I need to apply for these? (bank account I'm assuming). Does it take long for internet?

I'm a little worried at the moment because I won't have any way to communicate with people before I get internet or a phone. I just want to get these things out of the way as soon as possible once I arrive.

I'm sure these have been discussed several times on this subreddit, but I thought I might as well ask anyway. Hoping someone can give me a detailed outline of these couple things.

I appreciate it and look forward to traveling to Japn. Hopefully one day I'll be able to return the favor. Thank you.

45 comments submitted at 16:14:04 on Jan 5, 2013 by KarpMagi

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  • _Search_
  • -3 Points
  • 17:04:39, 5 January

What are you going for? Usually if you've got a job they'll help you set that sort of thing up.

But just so you know, NOTHING is good for foreigners. No one speaks English and everything is super-complicated. If you can speak a bit of Japanese you can get by but you'll almost definitely need help from someone here.

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 6 Points
  • 17:27:31, 5 January

> But just so you know, NOTHING is good for foreigners. No one speaks English and everything is super-complicated. If you can speak a bit of Japanese you can get by but you'll almost definitely need help from someone here.

What? Have you been to Japan any time in the past 10 years? Lots of services in English. NTT has English support. AsahiNet (and some other providers) have great English support and web site. Shinsei Bank has a great English website (including online banking) and 24 hour English phone support. Softbank has a decent English website (though English in the stores won't really exist.)

There are still things that are difficult but man, it is nothing like when I first arrived in Japan.

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  • _Search_
  • -2 Points
  • 17:45:12, 5 January

Been living here for a bit now and I would have never been able to set up any of that stuff without help from my employer. My interactions with NTT have been pretty abysmal, Shinsei is a small company and Softbank is pretty shit in my area.

There is NO way I would have been able to set up any of that shit without a decent Japanese speaker.

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 2 Points
  • 18:13:06, 5 January

> Been living here for a bit now and I would have never been able to set up any of that stuff without help from my employer.

Did you actually try or did you just throw your hands up and get someone else to do it?

NTT has an English support number that works very well. They will work to translate between you and your local NTT office and they do an excellent job of it.

Shinsei is the best bank for foreigners in Japan and with 2000 employees and total assets exceeding US$100 billion they are not exactly small. I have both a business and a private account with them and the service is great, much better than any typical Japanese bank (I have business and personal accounts with a few major Japanese banks as well.)

I haven't been a Docomo subscriber for some years but it looks like they have a toll free English line as well.

I came to Japan over 20 years ago and have friends who came here 20 years before that. Speaking Japanese still makes life easier (it is Japan after all...) but an English speaker can certainly get the basics set up with minimal trouble -- certainly nowhere near the problems of days gone by.

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  • _Search_
  • -12 Points
  • 18:16:48, 5 January

You're right. I'm making the whole thing up.

Jesus fucking christ. What a dumb fucking twit.

NTT had no problem cutting off my internet with no notice, EXCEPT THE JAPANESE-ONLY MAIL THEY SEND ME, Shinsei has ONE branch in all of Kyushu, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to walk into a store, buy a new cell phone and sign a standard cell phone contract without reasonable Japanese or a translator.

Oh, and on top of all that, you need all of your alien registration documentation from your town hall, where NO ONE SPEAKS ENGLISH. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

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  • vaginosis
  • 4 Points
  • 21:47:37, 5 January

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 1 Points
  • 22:20:04, 5 January

Interesting, TIL. Sounds like /u/Search to me.

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 1 Points
  • 18:18:56, 5 January

> /u/Search 0 points 1 minute ago
> You're right. I'm making the whole thing up.
> Jesus fucking christ. What a dumb fucking twit.

I don't think you're making it up, I think you're lazy or perhaps your parents took care of everything in life for you before your arrival in Japan.

Edit: When I arrived here 20+ years ago I couldn't speak a word of Japanese. I couldn't even say "thank you", I had no place to stay, and no job when I got off the plane. If I managed to get things worked out 20 fucking years ago (when there weren't forums like this to ask questions on, far less things like smartphones or GPS maps) anyone with more than two brain cells should be able to do it today. That you couldn't manage this says a lot about you.

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  • _Search_
  • -11 Points
  • 18:28:33, 5 January

Reply to edit: Really? You got an internet connection and a cell phone contract 20 years ago? WOW.

Notice you haven't said ONCE what location you're in. And that makes a HUGE difference. I've been waiting for you to own up on that, just once, but no, you're so fucking thick you have the gall to just put it out there like EVERYONE HAS THE SAME ACCESS EVERYWHERE.

What a dumb fucking moron. Holy shit what an idiot.

Goddamn I hope you're sterile.

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  • NoUseForA
  • 3 Points
  • 18:45:31, 5 January

What town were you in? When I renewed my registration I wasn't asked any questions at all; it was just routine paperwork. There were people in the local town hall who spoke English. Nagoya, btw. Solarpoweredhumans area is written right beside his name.

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  • _Search_
  • -6 Points
  • 18:48:59, 5 January

A city like Nagoya is going to have far more English speakers than inaka. If you're in a major city you can get away without knowing Japanese.

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  • NoUseForA
  • 2 Points
  • 18:56:56, 5 January

Are you still there? Edit. Oh countryside? Or is there a town named as such?

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 4 Points
  • 18:58:33, 5 January

> Really? You got an internet connection and a cell phone contract 20 years ago? WOW.

When I first arrived here people had to buy phone lines, they cost about 80,000yen. ISPs (besides Niftyserve which was like Compuserve) didn't exist until GOL came along in '94. They were Tokyo-only and I wasn't in Tokyo. (Sidenote: International calls to North America were ~600yen for 3 minutes...)

NTT Docomo was starting to roll out digital cellular service to urban areas but cell phones were still really rare. Everyone had pagers ("pocketbell").

Cell phones took a bit of time to catch on. I don't actually remember when I first got one -- '96 maybe? '97? I did get dialup internet in '95 though. Everyone went online after 11pm as that was the only time that per-minute landline charges didn't apply (as long as you had the right calling plan.)

> Notice you haven't said ONCE what location you're in.

I guess you haven't yet managed to master the kanji for major city names yet. My location is shown above every post I make on here. 大阪。 Osaka.

> And that makes a HUGE difference. I've been waiting for you to own up on that, just once, but no, you're so fucking thick you have the gall to just put it out there like EVERYONE HAS THE SAME ACCESS EVERYWHERE.

Shinsei accounts can be opened by mail. Their website is in English. Their phone support is in English. You can use the post office ATMs for free, along with 7-11 ATMs.

Last I checked NTT Docomo provides the same service everywhere in the country, as does Softbank. Certainly Docomo's freedial number for English support works from everywhere.

NTT's freedial number for English support works nationally. Asahi Net provides service nationally and their numbers can be called from anywhere in Japan too.

I fail to see how any of these things would be any different if you were living in Tokyo, Osaka, or rural Hokkaido.

> What a dumb fucking moron. Holy shit what an idiot.

As I said in a different post, feel free to rant and rave. It doesn't change the facts about who has managed here and who hasn't.

> Goddamn I hope you're sterile.

Nope! Have reproduced, kids are doing great and all going to top private schools. Let me know how your future kids do and what schools you manage to afford to send them to.

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  • _Search_
  • -9 Points
  • 19:07:22, 5 January

I'm on a mobile, dipshit.

Of course you're in Osaka. GEE, I HOPE ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD HAS A COUPLE ENGLISH SPEAKERS.

GUESS WHAT. The rest of Japan isn't like that. If this guy is being sent to the middle of nowhere, he needs help. You seem too thick to realize that. So just ignore it. I'm done wasting time on scum.

Die in a fucking car wreck.

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 5 Points
  • 19:20:04, 5 January

> I'm on a mobile, dipshit.

Riiiiiiight. Not my problem anyway.

> Of course you're in Osaka. GEE, I HOPE ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD HAS A COUPLE ENGLISH SPEAKERS.
> > GUESS WHAT. The rest of Japan isn't like that. If this guy is being sent to the middle of nowhere, he needs help. You seem too thick to realize that. So just ignore it. I'm done wasting time on scum.

Guess what? Every single thing I mentioned that is available in English is available to anyone in Japan, no matter where they are. It doesn't matter if they are in Tokyo or Kagoshima it can all be done in English. I've said this multiple times now, will it ever penetrate your skull? I guess you're stuck in the "Japan's hard" mindset or something.

> Die in a fucking car wreck.

Likewise, I wish you a good day.

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  • _Search_
  • -14 Points
  • 18:22:12, 5 January

I think you're a piece of fucking trash and I would beat the fucking shit out of you if you ever said anything that fucking stupid to my face.

Go jump in a fucking trash compactor.

Asshole.

Edit: and I basically raised myself. So FUCK YOU.

Edit: Yo, OP, if you're reading this, you got your answer. If someone as fucking dim-witted as this disgusting example of humanity can figure out life in Japan than you'll be fine. Retard can survive here for 20 years? Anyone with half a brain will be ok.

What an arrogant fuck.

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 6 Points
  • 18:31:52, 5 January

> I think you're a piece of fucking trash and I would beat the fucking shit out of you if you ever said anything that fucking stupid to my face.

I'm 6'2" and 100kg. Have at it buddy.

> and I basically raised myself. So FUCK YOU.

Apparently you didn't bother to teach yourself any manners.

> Yo, OP, if you're reading this, you got your answer. If someone as fucking dim-witted as this disgusting example of humanity can figure out life in Japan than you'll be fine. Retard can survive here for 20 years? Anyone with half a brain will be ok.

You're the one who couldn't figure out life in Japan even with all the hand-holding available here now. Feel free to jump up and down and throw a tantrum but the facts are the facts.

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  • _Search_
  • -10 Points
  • 18:39:50, 5 January

>I'm 6'2" and 100kg. Have at it buddy.

Time and place. No weapons.

>Apparently you didn't bother to teach yourself any manners.

Says the prick who says anyone who can't find English in Japan for all the services listed is a spoon-fed baby. ENGLISH --- IN EVERY CORNER OF JAPAN --- OR YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.

>You're the one who couldn't figure out life in Japan even with all the hand-holding available here now. Feel free to jump up and down and throw a tantrum but the facts are the facts.

Except I did, easily. My employer helped set it up, as they do for EVERYONE they hire, because NO ONE SPEAKS ENGLISH HERE. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE DUDE WHAT HE WAS DOING IN JAPAN. CHANCES ARE HIS EMPLOYER WILL SET IT UP FOR HIM. THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD HAVE BEEN WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE. BECAUSE - YES - THAT MAKES A FUCKING DIFFERENCE YOU DUMB FUCKING SHITHEAD.

You're trash. You need a fucking lesson.

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 4 Points
  • 19:16:16, 5 January

> Time and place. No weapons.

Somewhere outside Japan, not a good idea to fight here. (I know a couple of guys who spent time in the clink even for self defense.)

Weapons are for pussies. Well, so is fighting -- outside a dojo at least.

> Says the prick who says anyone who can't find English in Japan for all the services listed is a spoon-fed baby. ENGLISH --- IN EVERY CORNER OF JAPAN --- OR YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.

There wasn't much English support when I arrived here yet I managed. There is tons of English support here today, available nationally, yet you have failed to manage. I'm not sure what you're ranting about but you should calm down before you burst a blood vessel or two.

> Except I did, easily. My employer helped set it up, as they do for EVERYONE they hire, because NO ONE SPEAKS ENGLISH HERE. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE DUDE WHAT HE WAS DOING IN JAPAN. CHANCES ARE HIS EMPLOYER WILL SET IT UP FOR HIM. THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD HAVE BEEN WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE. BECAUSE - YES - THAT MAKES A FUCKING DIFFERENCE YOU DUMB FUCKING SHITHEAD.

Not sure how many times I need to repeat myself but there is no need to use Japanese to set up major services like landlines, internet, mobile phones, and banking. Great, your employer babied you upon arrival but really it wasn't necessary, and it isn't necessary for OP. Implying that OP won't be able to set these things up for himself is incorrect and is bad advice. It doesn't matter where OP is going, the major services are national and have English support.

> You're trash. You need a fucking lesson.

Not sure if you're drunk or just an asshole even sober, but there's only one of us freaking out here with no manners. Hint: It's not me.

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  • FLOCKA
  • 4 Points
  • 19:43:01, 5 January

you have problems, friend. It's pretty obvious that you were coddled by your parents and are incompetent. Every post made by /u/solarpoweredhuman has been respectful and negates all of your arguing "points". You should calm down, it's bad for your heart.

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  • _Search_
  • -6 Points
  • 20:00:33, 5 January

Eat shit and die.

His advice was terrible because it was geared to his situation only. He's a piece of shit and should be treated as such.

Shinsei only works if you're reasonably close to a branch. Sure, you can do basic banking, but as ANYONE who's tried to send money to an overseas account will know, you HAVE TO GO TO A BRANCH TO DO IT. If you're inaka, you're fucked. GUESS WHAT OP, WHO'S STAYING FOR A YEAR, PROBABLY WANTS TO DO.

He admits that you can't get a cell phone contract without speaking Japanese, then forgets he ever said that and talks about how great their useless websites are. GUESS WHAT MATTERS WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR A CELL PHONE OUTSIDE OF THE CITIES. COVERAGE. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THE COVERAGE IS FROM A FUCKING WEBSITE. If I signed up for Softbank (as others have in my area) I'd be FUCKED, as they were, but they were already locked into their contracts.

He said repeatedly that I wasn't able to get set up in Japan. I'm set up just fine. I just had someone from my company translate for me. Ya, guess that makes me an asshole. SORRY FOR NOT TEACHING ENGLISH TO MY FUCKING BANK TELLER JUST SO I CAN SIGN UP FOR AN ACCOUNT USING ONLY ENGLISH.

My guess is that the OP is either a student or an English teacher, like a JET. If he's the latter, there's a good chance he'll get sent to the middle of nowhere and the halfwit's advice will be useless because the kid will discover he actually needs to know some fucking Japanese (or get some help). And FUCK ANYONE for looking down on someone for ASKING FOR HELP. What an elitist sack of shit. What a disgusting human being.

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  • FLOCKA
  • 5 Points
  • 20:15:52, 5 January

hahaha. I can't believe you're getting so mad about not being to speak English in Japan (surprise!) and the difficulties that go along with that. I shudder to think what you'd be like in any real life crisis. Do you have to be hospitalized in a psych ward whenever you get laid off or are behind on rent? Do you sleep with rubber sheets to protect your bed when you piss yourself in histrionic fits? Did your parents feed you paint chips and fried batteries as a child?

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  • solarpoweredhuman
  • 2 Points
  • 21:25:27, 5 January

> Eat shit and die.

You have serious anger management problems. Calm down.

> Shinsei only works if you're reasonably close to a branch. Sure, you can do basic banking, but as ANYONE who's tried to send money to an overseas account will know, you HAVE TO GO TO A BRANCH TO DO IT. If you're inaka, you're fucked. GUESS WHAT OP, WHO'S STAYING FOR A YEAR, PROBABLY WANTS TO DO.

Did you miss the part where I also suggested Golloyds for international wires? With Golloyds the application is online and money is sent overseas by sending funds to a domestic bank account. Combined with Shinsei this is the perfect solution. Send money from your Shinsei account online to your Golloyds account. Cost is 300yen (with one free per month), done online in English at any time of the day or night. Golloyds will send the wire through the next business day. Great rates (though not quite as good as Shinsei) and everything can be done in (surprise, surprise!) English. Golloyds charges 2000yen for the international wire.

> He admits that you can't get a cell phone contract without speaking Japanese, then forgets he ever said that and talks about how great their useless websites are. GUESS WHAT MATTERS WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING UP FOR A CELL PHONE OUTSIDE OF THE CITIES. COVERAGE. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THE COVERAGE IS FROM A FUCKING WEBSITE. If I signed up for Softbank (as others have in my area) I'd be FUCKED, as they were, but they were already locked into their contracts.

It's more than possible to get a cell phone contract without speaking Japanese. Just because you didn't manage it doesn't mean that it isn't possible. (Seeing a pattern yet...?)

> He said repeatedly that I wasn't able to get set up in Japan. I'm set up just fine. I just had someone from my company translate for me.

No, I said you weren't able to do it yourself even though there are a plethora of services available that would have allowed you to do it.

> Ya, guess that makes me an asshole.

It makes you incompetent, or at best ignorant. Your posts on here show you to be an asshole too though, if it makes you feel better.

> SORRY FOR NOT TEACHING ENGLISH TO MY FUCKING BANK TELLER JUST SO I CAN SIGN UP FOR AN ACCOUNT USING ONLY ENGLISH.

No one suggested you teach your bank teller English. I certainly didn't. I did however suggest using a great bank that provides excellent English service.

> My guess is that the OP is either a student or an English teacher, like a JET.

Did you even read OP's post before coming in here and ranting? He's coming here to work.

> If he's the latter, there's a good chance he'll get sent to the middle of nowhere and the halfwit's advice will be useless because the kid will discover he actually needs to know some fucking Japanese (or get some help).

Man, I really need to repeat things to you. Every service I mentioned is available in English and nationally. If he ends up going somewhere besides Japan then what I suggested will be useless. If he is anywhere inside Japan it will all work perfectly.

> And FUCK ANYONE for looking down on someone for ASKING FOR HELP.

OP asked for help, I gave it, with details and links. I'm wondering what sort of help you have given to OP? As best I can see all you have done is come in here and rant.

I'm guessing you're somewhere into the "second stage of life in Japan". That's the stage where you hate everything and think everything is so difficult and fucked up.

> What an elitist sack of shit. What a disgusting human being.

Calm down man, you're going to blow a gasket.

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  • FLOCKA
  • 2 Points
  • 19:41:02, 5 January

you salty bro?