Military drama in (surprise, surprise) AdviceAnimals: are women slacking on their physical fitness tests? And, are they getting pregnant to avoid deployments? (np.reddit.com)
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260 comments submitted at 12:40:14 on Apr 24, 2014 by nrrdgrrl4500
Did it occur to anyone there that women might get pregnant before deployment because they might not get laid for a looong time after? Male military personnel do it all the time--go on a fucking bender before they're shipped out--but, of course, women don't actually like sex, they just use it as a weapon against men.
Birth control.
Can fail. Especially if someone relies on condoms, which many women do.
People should rely on personal forms of birth control, not leave it up to another. 2 methods of control makes it pretty hard to argue a mistake of getting pregnant. No excuses.
> No excuses.
Except for all the legitimate excuses that you're pretending don't exist, sure.
Only not all women react well to hormonal birth control--a lot of women have terrible side effects--and nonhormonal options like copper IUDs tend to be expensive.
Is expense an excuse for an having a baby for the wrong reasons?
Nope, but birth control can and does fail, and not every method will be appropriate for an individual woman.
The minuscule chance of failure is no reason not to be responsible. If one cannot reproduce responsibly, then one should keep it in their pants. People know what job they signed up for.
You seem have a worse sexual health policy than the military. That's truly saying something.
Don't be surprised when people look down at un-happy accidents.
> If one cannot reproduce responsibly, then one should keep it in their pants.
Interesting that nobody is saying this about men. Let me guess, a man knocking a woman up before he is deployed is reproducing responsibly yet a woman doing the same would be reproducing irresponsibly?
It isn't the pinnacle of responsibility to get a chick pregnant prior to leaving for a long time, but it also doesn't have the same effect on you that actually getting pregnant before deployment does. Men and women have different reproductive capacities. Double standards are not the worst thing in the world in this case.
Both are responsible. Don't make this a gender issue with your /r/TumblrInAction shit.
Not if you have the money to spare, but some don't. And IUDs can also be risky to your health. A friend of mine developed severe ovarian cysts after getting a copper IUD inserted, and now she'll never be able to have children at all.
If you can't afford to protect from pregnancy, you can't afford to have a kid. It's irresponsible to be sexually un-safe when signing up for a job like that.
Using condoms is not being "sexually un-safe". I think what you mean by "unsafe" is actually "having a minute chance of becoming pregnant", which almost all women do. Not all military jobs require extreme physical exertion, and there's no reason that women--even pregnant women--shouldn't be allowed to perform to the best of their ability. It's not irresponsible to get pregnant--intentionally or not--when you work a desk job or as a cook.
Never said that. Not using proper protection (2 barriers), is sexually un-safe and irresponsible.
Hey there, the military procedure is also to tell people: "don't have sex," but that doesn't solve any problems now, what makes you think that it'd work just because you suggested it? You're just being a contrarian, your arguments are not shedding any light on this issue (or lack of one, considering no one has provided evidence this is a serious issue to begin with.)
It's simple. If pregnancy is a negative outcome in the military, either practice safe sex, or abstain. No excuse otherwise.
I can't believe this is getting downvoted, feminists are so lol. How dare you expect a woman to take precautions when she's engaging in a risky activity? NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU'LL BE TELLING WOMEN TO WEAR SEATBELTS, SHITLORD.
Oh come on. "feminists are so lol" and sarcastic phrases nobody has used in here adds nothing whatsoever. Birth control in the military is being addressed and discussed all through this thread. Comments like this are why gender posts in the sub are near unreadable.
Gender posts are terrible all around. I'd like to see SRD ban them. However, when someone says:
>of course, women don't actually like sex, they just use it as a weapon against men
That's not actually contributing anything positive, it's just flamebait. When someone suggests that women use birth control to prevent pregnancy (which is an obvious solution, aside from abstinence, which is untenable in an age of sexual hedonism, promiscuity, and instant gratification) and it gets downvoted, it's pretty clear that the thread is already shit.
I actually agree with you, but never agree with trying to flamebait more as a proper solution. It just makes things devolve into even more shitposting.