Accusations of corporate shilling in /r/justneckbeardthings over a Denny's shout-out on twitter: "Pointing out that you have been hoodwinked by a corporate marketing campaign...and that this post functions as an ad-just/r/hailcorporatethings" Ouch! (np.reddit.com)
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19 comments submitted at 08:35:08 on Apr 22, 2014 by Time_to_Drink
Hey! I'm that guy! Honored by the mention, but I dd made it quite clear repeatedly that I was, as OP's title says, pointing out that "this post functions as an ad", and nothing more.
The concept of 'shilling' is nowhere in that thread.
Hey honest question there, what is so wrong with being a victim of advertisement?
A lot of marketing campaigns try to create an image close to the values of their consumers. It's not like they're trying to make us robots that will change the world or anything, they're simply trying to sell stuff.
I think I explained my position pretty well in the original thread, but to recap:
What’s the big deal?
> Because then the culture is being replaced with consumerism as ads-as-content become more normal. Think about your favorite reddit posts, the kind you are completely fine with seeing reposted, because you want to see it again. >That kind of content becomes less and less likely to make it to the top, when the function of what used to be an open forum becomes centered around funny denny's tweets, and old spice ads.
But it’s funny
> Of course they're funny - they're made to be funny, but they're trying to sell you deodorant too. When advertising becomes a culture, the values and perceptions are shaped to be in line with their marketing goals. Ads don’t shape our values
> It may be easier to believe that, because the alternative is that we are susceptible to a powerful influence that shapes our most basic world views. In your alternative, ads aren't intended to persuade, for it's not even necessary.
>It makes no sense. If marketing goals were already in line with our values, then the advertising industry wouldn't exist.
A single tweet won’t make me go out and buy denny’s, but ads appeal to our existing values…
>1 tweet, one ad, one reddit post with a logo in the background isn't going to change much, it's true. That's why power of marketing exists as a function of itself as a whole. Picture the entirety of marketing as a membrane, a colony organism, covering everything, working together to shape our perspectives.
>Like a fish in water, the fish doesn't even see the water, just like we are unable to detect and separate marketing's influence, for we are encompassed by it.
>It's intended to be undetectable, yet invasively everywhere. They want you to think their values are your values, and that you are too savvy to be influenced, that way you lower your defenses, making their ads more effective.
I'm also confused. If you like Denny's or Taco Bell and admit to it what is wrong with this?
Nice try taco shill
I fooled you. I am really a Denny's shill that used Taco Bell as a fall guy. Shit I have said to much.
They got to him, guys
Is it very important to you that people are 'correct' on the internet?
What an odd question….I would prefer it? Who wouldn't? Is it very important that you are allowed to dishonestly mischaracterize without being corrected?
Your title of “Accusations of corporate shilling” is blatantly false and sensationalistic. In the original thread, I simply pointed out that the post functions as an ad.
Lol!
"blatantly false and sensationalistic" only one of those is correct, and its not false!
You argued on and on about the detrimental effects of advertising on culture...whatever that could mean. You were down-voted because the majority of the sub disagreed with you. Deal with it.
And you did this "just/r/hailcorporatethings". You were suggesting shilling, except you didn't use that word. That's the word I used to "sensationalise" your anti-consumerist tin-foiled hatted nonsense. You know this is /r/SubredditDrama, right?
If you feel so bad about being "mischaracterized", or whatever, hire an e-lawyer and take me to /r/KarmaCourt.
What does shilling even mean to you? I never suggested anything of the sort. You're just kinda making that up.
All I did was point out that the post functions as an ad, and then laid out a commonly held belief that marketing is detrimental to culture. The association with 'tin foil' conspiracy is just how people (you) who have an odd fetish for ads poison the well by associating it with conspiracy nonsense.
I can't believe what a total lol-cow you are!
"All I did was point out that the post functions as an ad, and then laid out a commonly held belief that marketing is detrimental to culture."
We KNOW what you think, dude. That's the whole point! We are LAUGHING at all the drama you are causing...do you really not see this?
OMG, are you going to do this all day? Please! Somebody post this to SRDD!