What is the cure for neckbeardness? MrPeoples thinks it is a red pill. (np.reddit.com)

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64 comments submitted at 23:00:36 on Apr 22, 2014 by Hamzaboy

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  • [deleted]
  • 6 Points
  • 23:34:33, 22 April

Swallow the red pill and become enlightened as to how women are beneath you and you can play pseudo-game theory to checkmate your way into their pants!

....And if you want to become an actual better person with some perspective, confidence, and guidance on relationships, love making, and dating, check out Dr. Nerdlove. Whether you're an actual nerd or not.

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  • a_little_duck
  • 1 Points
  • 12:23:12, 23 April

I don't really like Dr. Nerdlove. Some of the advice seems very good and interesting, but in a few of the articles he seems be very prone to reducing people to stereotypes, and failing to see the humanity in a person. He reduces men to being mostly about sex, in his views the goal of a relationship isn't really finding a soulmate, the person closest to you to share your life with. It's about getting sex. And he seems to be very much against giving a person a second chance after they make some mistake, some of his statements about it seem almost sociopathic to me. To him, it's not about whether it's a nice thing to do to give someone a second chance, but that no one owes you a second chance. A rather capitalistic view of human relationships, instead of one that's focused on empathy and understanding.

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  • tewad
  • -26 Points
  • 00:21:12, 23 April

> check out Dr. Nerdlove.

That's guys apparently a feminist, and, as a general rule thumb, I avoid listening to people who are part of hate movements.

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  • Broto_tiller
  • 16 Points
  • 02:36:31, 23 April

I heard that feminists put big wooden ♀s on the front lawns of men and then set them on fire.

Have you ever been lynched by feminists tewad? I have, and it's not pretty. It involves them falsely accusing you of rape and then drafting you in to the army.

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  • tewad
  • -13 Points
  • 02:46:06, 23 April

OK?

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  • Broto_tiller
  • 10 Points
  • 02:49:06, 23 April

I heard that feminists are pushing for a law that requires all men to register with the federal government and live in special male only ghettos called "friend zones."

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  • tewad
  • -13 Points
  • 02:50:27, 23 April

That's a shame.

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  • [deleted]
  • 14 Points
  • 00:31:06, 23 April

Right, because he's a guy who loves anime, comics, is happily married, and sees it that treating women with respect (and men, for the articles targeting girls), not having unrealistic expectations of any human being, and taking care of yourself physically and emotionally......part of a hate movement.

Coming from someone who seems to espouse little else but hate, pretty ironic.

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  • tewad
  • -14 Points
  • 00:38:48, 23 April

He just wrote this article. I'm going to quote one part of it

>Because our silence is enabling them. Our silence is seen as approval. It’s validating their shitty behavior because nobody is speaking up against them.

When Bush said "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists" people mocked him for that. However, that's just SOP for feminism. If you're not actively fighting something you're supporting it. Well, I'm going to hold him to the standards he seeks to impose on others. If doesn't actively and aggressively fight feminists who openly hate men, see all sex as rape, etc. he's supporting them. And I don't see why I should listen to someone who supports the idea that all sex is rape.

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  • [deleted]
  • 13 Points
  • 00:47:18, 23 April

Except that there's demonstrable forms of rampant sexism in geek culture that is ignored or hand-waved (like you're doing), where as feminists who hate men are to no end lauded and laughed at not only by other feminists but society at large. A bit like saying "How come white people never bash white supremacists or Neo-nazi's?"

And comparing Bush's "for the terrorist speech" to a guy calling for like-minded people to take a stand against the immaturity, chauvinism, and bigotry commonly in place in the aforementioned areas. Nice. Where as there's quite a bit of room in determining terrorism and going to war, there's not so much in treating people like shit because of their gender.

You literally cherry picked one article off the front, tried to zero in on some strawman to knock down, and invalidate the entire thing. You haven't read anything else on there or even attempted to implore any of the suggestions, nor are you at all familiar with the circumstances being discussed. But you will still dismiss it because "grrrr! females!" How very MRA of you.

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  • tewad
  • -16 Points
  • 01:07:01, 23 April

Dude, that article is at the front of the site right now. It's literally the first one I clicked on when I opened your link. This isn't going well.

Why shouldn't compare his statement to Bush's? Bush thought not helping America go to war was supporting terrorism. DNL is comparing not speaking out against harassment as supporting harassment.

Not to mention his definition of harassment seems pretty low. Getting nasty messages online? That's all? It's not even like feminists can claim the high ground on this. They have their own history of sending out mean messages. Or just [outright violence] (http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2012/07/woman-who-punches-thug-making-rape-joke-becomes-hero-but-is-she/). You think geek culture has a problem? Please. Feminists openly celebrate violence (and remember, if you actively condemn this your silence is a show of support).

Crazy feminists aren't condemned as much you'd think. SRS is the largest feminist community on reddit. Solanas and Dworkin both got support from feminism.

So, if I believe what DNL says I am also required to believe he (and indeed most feminists) see all sex as rape.

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  • [deleted]
  • 11 Points
  • 01:26:44, 23 April

> Why shouldn't compare his statement to Bush's? Bush thought not helping America go to war was supporting terrorism. DNL is comparing not speaking out against harassment as supporting harassment.

Because terrorism, at least with Bush, was a broad political category, and being mum towards harassing people consistently encourages harassment. A more comparable situation is the refusal of the Justice system to prosecute any murderers. If you can allow people to kill one another and get away with it, you are facilitating an atmosphere where it's permissible by default of a lack of consequences.

If you allow people to treat someone like crap, exclude them from geek circles, and talk down to them because they're women, you are encouraging the practice. The saying "inaction is still action" applies here.

> Not to mention his definition of harassment seems pretty low. Getting nasty messages online? That's all?

Easy to say when you're not gaming and getting a bunch of people trying to sext you, or follow you around, or treat you at all differently because of your gender. That's all? Way to prove his point.

> It's not even like feminists can claim the high ground on this. They have their own history of sending out mean messages. Or just outright violence. You think geek culture has a problem? Please. Feminists openly celebrate violence (and remember, if you actively condemn this your silence is a show of support).

This is about geek culture, not feminists. You really want to drag this through the mud? When's the last time a feminist went on a shooting spree and killed a bunch of men because of their hatred towards men and men's rights? Hey, while we're generalizing outside the confines of the article, anything goes.

> Crazy feminists aren't condemned as much you'd think. SRS is the largest feminist community on reddit. Solanas and Dworkin both got support from feminism.

Considering that feminism in of itself is an extreme minority on this site, associating SRS with all feminism is interesting. By the same logic, /r/therepill is representative of all men's rights. They're a minority but men's rights is infinitely more popular on reddit than feminism is anyway.

Also, /r/therepill has the largest crossover with /r/mensrights according to the site statistics.

> So, if I believe what DNL says I am also required to believe he (and indeed most feminists) see all sex as rape.

Ok, then I am lead to believe you think all women are second class citizens, real rape only exists by shadowy figures in alleyways, most rape accusations are false, men are raped more than women (and only by women), and date rape is a part of the "fun in mating rituals", a la Warren Farrel, the father of the Men's rights movement.

Goes around and comes around.

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  • tewad
  • -10 Points
  • 01:46:45, 23 April

>Because terrorism, at least with Bush, was a broad political category, and being mum towards harassing people consistently encourages harassment. A more comparable situation is the refusal of the Justice system to prosecute any murderers. If you can allow people to kill one another and get away with it, you are facilitating an atmosphere where it's permissible by default of a lack of consequences.

DNL isn't talking about refusing prosecuting anyone. He also seems to have a broad notion of what constitutes harassment. He is actively demanding people who don't have an obligation to speak out do so and sees not doing so as supporting what he hates. Very similar to Bush's thinking.

> This is about geek culture, not feminists. You really want to drag this through the mud? When's the last time a feminist went on a shooting spree and killed a bunch of men because of their hatred towards men and men's rights? Hey, while we're generalizing outside the confines of the article, anything goes.

So because one guy committed murder feminism's open support of violence is something we should ignore? I mean, this is a movement that produced The SCUM Manifesto and celebrates acts of violence towards men to this day.

>Easy to say when you're not gaming and getting a bunch of people trying to sext you, or follow you around, or treat you at all differently because of your gender. That's all? Way to prove his point.

I once had girl try to harass me into dating her. It was kinda funny.

Again feminists have their own history of harassment, violence, etc. And I've had people send me angry messages. I got good number while blowing up people's fleets in OGame. Do you think I'm a woman?

And treat people different because of their gender? Isn't that something we should do? Gender differences are a fact of life.

>Considering that feminism in of itself is an extreme minority on this site, associating SRS with all feminism is interesting. By the same logic, /r/therepill is representative of all men's rights. They're a minority but men's rights is infinitely more popular on reddit than feminism is anyway.

SRS alone has tens of thousands of subscribers. Is their something particular about reddit that makes feminists nuts? Like a drug that emanates from the keyboard?

>Also, /r/therepill has the largest crossover with /r/mensrights according to the site statistics. >Ok, then I am lead to believe you think all women are second class citizens, real rape only exists by shadowy figures in alleyways, most rape accusations are false, men are raped more than women (and only by women), and date rape is a part of the "fun in mating rituals", a la Warren Farrel, the father of the Men's rights movement. Goes around and comes around.

I think you're confusing me with someone who's cares about /r/mensrights.

But anyway, one thing I've noticed about feminists. When they're criticized they often go strait to MRA comparisons. So the MRM is (a) literally a hate group and (b) a group who's actions they use to justify their own. I don't even they to tell people feminism is a hate movement, they do that themselves. If you want to compare yourselves to a bunch idiots go ahead, don't let me stop you.

Edit: You seem to have deleted your account. Whatever.

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  • Broto_tiller
  • 7 Points
  • 02:37:32, 23 April

Crazy MRAs aren't condemned that much either. So that means MRAs are a hate group too.

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  • bumingbai
  • 7 Points
  • 04:41:41, 23 April

even sane MRA's seem pretty hateful

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  • tewad
  • -8 Points
  • 04:47:14, 23 April

As bad as the MRM is, they still make feminism look sane.

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  • bumingbai
  • 6 Points
  • 04:48:26, 23 April

nah

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  • tewad
  • -8 Points
  • 02:44:36, 23 April

If we apply the logic I see DNL use (and defended by other feminists), sure.

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  • bumingbai
  • 5 Points
  • 04:40:57, 23 April

hahaha thanks for the good laugh friend

you keep on trucking

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  • tewad
  • -7 Points
  • 04:45:05, 23 April

Yes, how dare I seek to hold people to standards they seek to impose on others? Why can't I realize that expecting feminists not be to massive hypocrites makes me a misogynist?

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  • bumingbai
  • 5 Points
  • 04:50:29, 23 April

i just cant wait for the day that men cant get higher education

in fact in many universities women already out number men

ITS HAPPENING

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  • tewad
  • -6 Points
  • 04:55:11, 23 April

I glad you just flat out admit you hate men. Most feminists lack the courage even to admit the blindingly obvious.

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  • bumingbai
  • 7 Points
  • 05:00:27, 23 April

im just saying that men are becoming increasingly obsolete in the world

women: better with computers, better fighter pilots

men: emotionally stunted children who can be incapacitated with one kick to the groin

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  • tewad
  • -8 Points
  • 05:01:07, 23 April

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Feminism folks!

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  • ZBLongladder
  • 5 Points
  • 05:01:07, 23 April

So respecting women and believing that they should be treated equally with men constitutes hate?

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  • tewad
  • -4 Points
  • 05:03:46, 23 April

Well, according to him not calling people out on something seems you support it. Therefore, he and most feminists actively support the notion that all sex is rape.

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  • ZBLongladder
  • 4 Points
  • 05:40:37, 23 April

In certain circumstances, not calling someone out on something is what enables them to keep doing the asshole thing they're doing. For instance, to offer an extreme (but sadly historically realistic) example, if you saw a crowd of people lynching a black guy and you didn't do anything, wouldn't you bear at least some responsibility for the guy's death?

The same principle applies here. He's not saying you have to become a feminist activist or you're working for the patriarchy. He's saying that, if you see someone being an asshole to a woman, you should say something. If you don't, the asshole thinks you think it's OK and will continue being an asshole.

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  • tewad
  • -2 Points
  • 07:48:23, 23 April

I think almost everyone agrees that we shouldn't allow hatred in a group. I doubt that controversial to anyone, except feminists. They believe that an insane murderer is an important spokesman for their movement. They celebrate violence against men. They are not people I will ever listen to.

Frankly most feminists complaints about harassment are just people characterizing all disagreement as harassment. They have really fragile egos. And most of the worst of those messages are just fabricated anyway.