Circumcision post in /r/videos. 12 upvotes, 124 comments. (self.SubredditDrama)

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28 ups - 17 downs = 11 votes

87 comments submitted at 02:47:27 on Apr 23, 2014 by UusterD

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  • NekoQT
  • 5 Points
  • 02:52:17, 23 April

It is pretty damn stupid to just slice some skin off your kid for no reason

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  • Old_Shul
  • 0 Points
  • 05:43:02, 23 April

Excuse me, but circumcision isn't done "for no reason". Within the Jewish community, it is performed because G-d commands it. Circumcision is a physical symbol of the relationship between G‑d and the Jewish people.

I realize that this is a free country, and if gentiles don't want to circumcise their children I'm not going to force them to. But to claim that circumcision is done "for no reason" is ignorance.

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  • Waage83
  • 7 Points
  • 06:00:17, 23 April

Your right and that is why it is okay that some tribes circumcise women.

After all it is there tradition and they believe there god commands it.

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  • Old_Shul
  • -10 Points
  • 07:07:57, 23 April

>Your[sic] right and that is why it is okay that some tribes circumcise women.

>After all it is there[sic] tradition and they believe there[sic] god commands it.

First of all, learn some grammar. "Your" is a possessive pronoun. "You're" is what you should have used. Also you said "there" when you clearly should have used "their". The fact that you make such elementary mistakes demonstrates your lack of intellectual abilities.

To answer your question: Jewish male circumcision only removes only a small amount of skin around the penis. Its effects on sensation and function of the genitals are minimal-to-none. As long as female circumcision is conducted along the same lines (i.e. only a tiny bit of skin is removed and the effects are minimal-to-none) I don't think it would be inhumane.

However, I don't believe that such tribes are following a true religion so they really shouldn't be circumcising women in the first place. I do not think it's "okay" to follow a false religion. Those tribes should stop worshiping a false god.

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  • WatchEachOtherSleep
  • 3 Points
  • 07:32:46, 23 April

Its is a possessive pronoun. It's is short for it is.

It should also be "Those tribes should stop worshipping a false god".

The fact that you make such elementary mistakes demonstrates your lack of intellectual abilities.

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  • Old_Shul
  • -3 Points
  • 07:45:08, 23 April

I've corrected my typos now. Thanks.

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  • WatchEachOtherSleep
  • 2 Points
  • 07:49:24, 23 April

Good. If you're going to hold other people to a pointless standard, then perhaps you could, at the very least, not be a hypocrite about it.

At any rate, by your exact reasoning, your lack of intellectual abilities has already been made bare.

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  • Waage83
  • 2 Points
  • 09:51:40, 23 April

Yes English is not my first, second or even third langue. Yes my grammar is horrid. Buhubuhu.

This is hypocrisy and full of grandstanding bull.

If you did not there would be no damage and no problems at all every thing would be honky dory. Why is that not a better choice.

Wait until the CHILD is 18 and can pick for them self and let them make a choice instead of forcing the genitalia mutilation on them when they have no choice. Let them pick them self when they are old enough.

>However, I don't believe that such tribes are following a true religion so they really shouldn't be circumcising women in the first place. I do not think it's "okay" to follow a false religion. Those tribes should stop worshiping a false god.

So you are now the judge and jury on what is a true religion and what traditions should be followed by said people.

Yes it is not mandated in any of the big 3 religions, but that dose not mean a sect can not be started where it is part of there tradition. IF it is then you most support it right or else you are a hypocrite.

The only reason why the Jews do it is because of tradition and because of there faith so if my faith says to circumcise a women then that is all good right.

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  • H37man
  • 1 Points
  • 08:07:25, 23 April

The magi rusty of people do not think Judaism is the one true religion. If anything is constant about people is that large magi rites cannot even agree on what the right religion is. Even the people who accept that these religions like Judaism are the true religion. There are still hundreds if not thousands of different sects in these religions that people disagree on how to worship said true god.

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  • threehundredthousand
  • 1 Points
  • 08:11:57, 23 April

Well, this popcorn started tasting like dick cheese and foreskins quick. Why do you knuckleheads come here to argue this? I'm going to start sewing giant foreskins to your faces.

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  • LetsTalkMetaPhysics
  • 6 Points
  • 06:15:34, 23 April

>I realize that this is a free country, and if gentiles don't want to circumcise their children I'm not going to force them to.

It's not their genitals, they don't have a right to modify them. Something the children have no choice in whatsoever. Religious scripture or practice does not justify it.

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  • Old_Shul
  • -6 Points
  • 07:21:38, 23 April

When you were a baby, did you have a choice when your parents fed you? Did you have a choice when they changed your diaper? Of course not. Does that mean that they violated you by feeding you and changing your diaper? Of course not.

The fact of the matter is that it's the parent's responsibility to choose what's best for their child, because the child is not able to take care of itself. And in Judaism, what's best is to continue the tradition of the bris.

>It's not their genitals, they don't have a right to modify them.

But where do "rights" come from? From G-d, that's where. And G-d commands circumcision for Jewish males.

>Religious scripture or practice does not justify it.

Of course it does. The Torah states:

>This is My covenant, which you shall observe between Me and between you and between your seed after you, that every male among you be circumcised.

If that's not a justification, I don't know what is.

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  • H37man
  • 4 Points
  • 07:48:53, 23 April

No but we still govern what parents put in there children. Vegans have been cent emcees for child abuse for not providing proper nutrition. Many people have been charged with child endangerment for not keeping there children in healthy environments. We do draw the line in this society. And all religious practices are not covered under them. And you can believe laws and morality comes from god. However the government seems to be the only one around enforcing them or protecting your rights.

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  • seanziewonzie
  • 2 Points
  • 11:26:26, 23 April

> cent emcees

Never fix this typo.

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  • hjklob486
  • 5 Points
  • 06:10:31, 23 April

Say, if I in earnest start a religion tomorrow that mandates all of its followers to have Prince Albert piercing done to them as an infant, would you be accepting of that? Of course I would need some followers, but that should be quite doable knowing all the crazy cults that have existed.

What I find, is that there is no real good argument for cosmetic child circumcision. I don't advocate for tattoos, piercings or any other cosmetic body modifications for children either. It is however a big talking point in MRA circles and because we here at SRD know that all MRAs are dumb, everything they say must be dumb too.

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  • Old_Shul
  • -4 Points
  • 07:32:26, 23 April

>Say, if I in earnest start a religion tomorrow

But you are contradicting yourself, because you are not starting a religion in earnest tomorrow. Instead, you are imagining a ridiculous hypothetical situation that you yourself know will never come to pass. You have no intention of starting a religion in earnest, you just want to set a rhetorical trap for me.

There is no religion in the world that mandates Prince Albert piercings for infants. And if there was one, it would not be true religion.

>What I find, is that there is no real good argument for cosmetic child circumcision.

I agree. But not all circumcisions are cosmetic circumcisions. The Jewish tradition of the bris has nothing to do with cosmetics; it's about a covenant with G-d.

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  • H37man
  • 1 Points
  • 07:52:09, 23 April

Are you find with Hindus practicing sati?

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  • Old_Shul
  • -2 Points
  • 08:01:14, 23 April

Of course not.

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  • H37man
  • 0 Points
  • 08:03:31, 23 April

Even if it is consensual?

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  • NekoQT
  • -2 Points
  • 06:50:44, 23 April

Well i can understand it for religious purposes, but if i get a kid with a jewish or muslim lady we just won't snip off his foreskin

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  • bumingbai
  • -10 Points
  • 03:07:23, 23 April

cleaner and better looking!

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  • NekoQT
  • 10 Points
  • 03:11:46, 23 April

How is it cleaner??

I dont know about you but i actually wash my dick after sex

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  • bumingbai
  • -9 Points
  • 03:20:22, 23 April

sex isnt the only reason your dick smells like good cheese

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  • NekoQT
  • 11 Points
  • 03:21:16, 23 April

Who doesent shower daily??

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  • bumingbai
  • -5 Points
  • 03:22:29, 23 April

daily? more like 14 times an hour

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  • david-me
  • -7 Points
  • 04:00:02, 23 April

Daily? I guess it depends on your job, but more importantly your status or ability to shower. Most of your body ( for a lot of people) doesn't need to be washed each day. I washed my hair 2-3 times a week and upped it to 3-5 times a week when I started running. Being too clean ruins the bodies ability to fight off germs. I am worse off showering daily than I am every other day with a quick rinse in between.

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  • bumingbai
  • 4 Points
  • 04:07:53, 23 April

witches can smell you better if you shower every day

shower every other day to keep them guessing

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  • chainsawvigilante
  • 3 Points
  • 08:09:11, 23 April

Genius.

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  • NekoQT
  • 2 Points
  • 04:00:58, 23 April

Well to be fair i workout everyday so i get really sweaty, it would be gross if i didnt shower afterwards

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  • david-me
  • -4 Points
  • 04:04:56, 23 April

Even exercising daily, I can only wash 3-5 times a week with soap. All the rest is a quick rinse. and that cab be a sink and wash cloth rinse. I may be blessed with amazing genes or something, but over washing does me more harm than good.

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  • threehundredthousand
  • 3 Points
  • 08:13:35, 23 April

I can smell you from here.

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  • NekoQT
  • -1 Points
  • 04:06:16, 23 April

Ah yeah, its not like i spend 30 minutes in a hot shower, rubbing all kinds of shampoo and stuff over me

Get in, water on, feel myself up, repeat with some bodywash and out

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  • not_shadowbanned_yet
  • 7 Points
  • 03:16:10, 23 April

This is the reason given for circumcising girls too.

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  • bumingbai
  • -6 Points
  • 03:21:17, 23 April

oh? i thought FGM was about removing a womans ability to orgasm to ensure fidelity

you know, because these things are totally the same

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  • not_shadowbanned_yet
  • -4 Points
  • 03:53:12, 23 April

Male circumcision is also an ancient tribal ritual done to limit or remove sexual feeling and function. Much like female circumcision, it is currently done by the parents because “it was done to me” and “it is better/cleaner/healthier/purer” not explicitly to damage them, though this is the end result. There are intact women who are unable to orgasm, as well as circumcised women who claim to enjoy their sex lives.

Your culture is permissive/encouraging of male genital mutilation, which is why you are under this misimpression and hold these double standards.

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  • bumingbai
  • -1 Points
  • 03:56:18, 23 April

what?

missing a foreskin means you can't orgasm?

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  • not_shadowbanned_yet
  • 1 Points
  • 04:13:48, 23 April

Please note that the ability to achieve erection and orgasm is the minimum requirement for male reproduction. Also that I pointed out there are uncut women who cannot cum, and circumcised women who can.

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  • bumingbai
  • -4 Points
  • 04:17:40, 23 April

so you might as well sew the vagina closed until she is married off, right?

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  • not_shadowbanned_yet
  • 1 Points
  • 04:27:40, 23 April

Just like you should cut his willy or he’ll play with it all the time and girls will think it’s gross. Right?

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  • bumingbai
  • -6 Points
  • 04:30:22, 23 April

the details of your sordid childhood are truly depressing

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  • burninembers
  • 1 Points
  • 03:42:11, 23 April

Circumcised looks better flaccid uncut looks better hard.

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  • bumingbai
  • 0 Points
  • 03:43:16, 23 April

ohhhh good point