Objectification drama in /r/AskWomen: "A whole-hearted LOL to you. I am a person, and people who view me as a sexual object are misogynists, end of story" (np.reddit.com)

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109 ups - 43 downs = 66 votes

146 comments submitted at 10:37:06 on Apr 9, 2014 by Hobby_Misogynist

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  • ABadManComes
  • 89 Points
  • 12:15:13, 9 April

I miss the good ol days when misogyny was actually hating women. Now it's extended to finding someone attractive and trying to talk to them. Someone figure out this lunacy.

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  • moor-GAYZ
  • 28 Points
  • 13:19:22, 9 April

Basically, misogyny : women :: pedophilia : children, makes sense. After all, all penis-in-vagina sex is rape since women can't meaningfully consent when The Patriarchy permeates and afflicts every word we speak and every thought we have.

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  • ChadtheWad
  • -27 Points
  • 13:22:46, 9 April

When was that ever an issue? Even 100,200 years ago people didn't hate half of the population.

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  • JBfan88
  • 43 Points
  • 14:28:20, 9 April

They did consider them less of a person and try and keep them from voting, owning property, etc. Whether that's "hatred" is up to you.

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  • ABadManComes
  • -18 Points
  • 13:50:52, 9 April

Got me dude... but somebody somewhere had enough free time on their hand to call it an issue.

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  • ChadtheWad
  • 0 Points
  • 13:59:11, 9 April

That, or maybe we're constraining the definition of "misogyny" so much that it doesn't apply to anyone. Would even RedPillers count as women-haters? Probably not, since their whole "philosophy" is centered around women.

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  • ABadManComes
  • 16 Points
  • 14:08:55, 9 April

I uh...actually think they kinda qualify as women-haters to a degree. I mean regardless as to what the philosophy is centered around that's just a small aspect to account for.

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  • MareDoVVell
  • 15 Points
  • 15:00:17, 9 April

Misogny isn't about hating women, it's about thinking of them and treating them as if they are not people, and/or as inherently inferior...which is pretty much the whole crux of the TRP philosophy...

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  • ChadtheWad
  • -8 Points
  • 15:00:35, 9 April

Yet even that does not qualify as "real" hatred. If you hate someone, would you try to trick them into having sex with you? I think not.

The point is that "hate" is a subjective term in this context: Is it hatred to see women as only sex dispensers (as Redpillers do); and is it hatred to see them as non-equals? I would say yes. Similarly, I think that objectifying women by turning everyday interactions into attempts for sex is hatred to some degree as well. The strictest definition of hate would only fit a small number of individuals.

It's just something that bugs me about the "misogyny was actually hating women" discussion. :P

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  • ABadManComes
  • 8 Points
  • 15:15:43, 9 April

If you hate someone or something you can still have sex with it. How many conservative politicians and priests have been out there condemining homosexuality and then are found to be hiking South American mountains and fucking rentboys? I hate my ex and everything she stands for doesnt mean I wouldnt sex her again.

As far as if "Is it hatred to see women as only sex dispensers (as Redpillers do)". I dont think that is hatred. That is objectification or pure devaluation and disregard of them for their other humanistic values and traits. What I find hateful of TRP is that (at least from whatve I seen) they go beyond the point of maximizing there sex and take it to the point that they hate women for actually being women. Which is a bit absurd, if anything they should just come to terms with it that male and females are different.

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  • steakmeout
  • -52 Points
  • 14:47:06, 9 April

Yeah, I miss the days when TRPers were just more upfront and didn't hide behind alt accounts to try and bring drama here so they could feel good about passively aggressively shitting on some feeemale for sharing her point of view.

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  • oss_spy
  • 27 Points
  • 15:00:24, 9 April

I bet you're from SRS.

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  • steakmeout
  • -30 Points
  • 15:15:34, 9 April

Nope.

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  • oss_spy
  • 21 Points
  • 15:25:42, 9 April

Oh, /r/TheBluePill. A place controlled by SRS.

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  • steakmeout
  • -28 Points
  • 16:00:07, 9 April

And the down vote brigading continues...

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  • [deleted]
  • 13 Points
  • 17:35:27, 9 April

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  • [deleted]
  • 13 Points
  • 17:43:38, 9 April

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  • 316nuts
  • 3 Points
  • 19:55:05, 9 April

Please, no personal attacks.

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  • altralx
  • 5 Points
  • 19:48:51, 9 April

A sub can't brigade itself, dumbass.

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  • Gilgamon
  • 1 Points
  • 22:48:44, 9 April

Oh, I guess we're shilling for TRP today...