The cleverest tactic I've ever seen. (self.civ)

civ

192 ups - 28 downs = 164 votes

I'm playing as Japan and going for a domination victory.

My continent put up more of a fight than I had hoped, but I was relatively on schedule with techs. No time for a navy, so I had no idea what was going on on the other continent except from notifications of wonders being built ahead of me and capitals falling left and right, so I assume I'm in for a fight when I get there.

Build up a strong navy, scout out the other big continent and find Dido and Alex still in control of their capitals with Alex trouncing everything. I use my navy to puppet a foothold on the coast and as soon as I take out the one Dido city, her capital, that was landlocked, the superior Alex, declaration of friendship and all and who was just bro-fiving me over our joint victory against Dido, declares war. Oh, and EVERY city state (about 12 left) declare too. Within 1 turn I lost about 30 units and my entire navy (3x 3 battleship, 2 privateer groups) It's a losing war and I lose all but 3 cities tucked in the corner.

I'm able to hold them, but any move into the offensive is met with rocket artillery rape mobiles. With a 14 turn journey from my continent to the front lines I weigh my options against score and tech. Nope. Apollo program in full swing in Greece.

I rebuild my navy and use the standoff I get with them to pick away at coastal cities. Rape mobiles keep the inland locked down tight. I finally get a coastal city and 2 city states and Greece offers a giant peace agreement. I'm surprised he offered so much, but I need the 10 turns to get my units on the right side of the world.

Then comes the sneaky bit. As soon as I clicked agree to my 10 turn treaty the UN election screen pops up. 10 turns I can't attack him or city states and 10 turns to his victory.

Bonus epilogue: So, technically I lost, but I reloaded my last save before agreeing. It came to me annexing the nearest city state, pushing my last battleship, GA, destroyer (vitally important; the only unit that can win the game) and sub into a bay with his entire navy. A carrier makes it just in time with 2 A-bombs and a bomber. I sold my entire army enroute to buy an ICBM in my newly annexed city state. The carrier with the A-bomb's last move put the bombs' farthest range 1 tile away from Greece's capital. An ICBM, logistics double salvo from the battleship, 2 A-bombs and a suicide run from the bomber put the city down to a coin flip's chance of the destroyer getting through. 1 more turn would have lost me the election.

I won the redo, but holy crap balls that was clever of the AI.

TL;DR: Greece offers treaty as UN is completed and I can't attack to win before election is held.

E:

  • I think it was on King difficulty. I haven't played in forever and was looking for something that wouldn't require an entire game of micro managing and would be relaxing (Spoiler: it wasn't).

  • I did turn a blind eye to the city states. Most of my cash went into buying a majority of my initial navy.

  • May have been a coincidence, but it lost me the first run-through.

  • Spain, Carthage, Egypt and the Celts started over there. By the time I made it to the party Greece had taken Spain, the Celts and Carthage minus the capital plus all of what used to be the Egypt now under new management. Ramessess was still alive, but banished to some 2 population 4 tile island empire and kept calling me an asshole the whole time. He hated me, but found my luxury exports worth more than the moral high ground against my genocide.

80 comments submitted at 17:36:08 on Mar 13, 2013 by FinalEnemy

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  • KrystalPistol
  • 48 Points
  • 18:26:31, 13 March

>Rape mobiles

Why do you call them that?

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  • Ziggamorph
  • -19 Points
  • 21:01:46, 13 March

Yeah. There's no reason to use that word here, it's just going to unnecessarily trigger rape survivors. A good writeup spoiled by an incongruous an unnecessary word.

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  • InaFishAnt
  • 6 Points
  • 21:50:27, 13 March

rape seems to fit civ pretty well

> an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.

> to plunder (a place); despoil.

> to seize, take, or carry off by force.

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -5 Points
  • 21:58:23, 13 March

Why not use one of those other words instead of something that will force some readers to recount traumatic memories? Like, what's the advantage of the word rape?

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  • RedRoostur
  • 3 Points
  • 00:23:36, 14 March

Don't be an idiot. You're telling me you don't see the advantage of saying rape instead of plunder? Plunder and rape are the same to you? If I say "I plundered the capital of Greece.", and then say "I also raped the capital of France." That's the same to you?

Clearly, there's an advantage to using rape.

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  • [deleted]
  • 12 Points
  • 21:06:47, 13 March

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  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -12 Points
  • 21:14:02, 13 March

Asking nicely for people not to use shitty language really seems to offend you.

  • [-]
  • Flyinghogfish
  • 8 Points
  • 21:22:22, 13 March

Because most people who are offended by shitty language are hypocrites and think they know better than everyone.

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -8 Points
  • 21:23:25, 13 March

What is hypocritical about not wanting rape victims to be forced to relive their trauma unnecessarily?

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  • Babou_Needs_A_Toy
  • 8 Points
  • 21:39:09, 13 March

Well if the word rape is going to force them to relive their trauma shouldn't you edit your comment?

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -4 Points
  • 21:55:04, 13 March

Very clever, because lots of people click through immediately to comments without reading the self-post they are attached to. You've bested me with your undeniable logic. Pat yourself on the back. You are fighting the good fight.

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  • Babou_Needs_A_Toy
  • 1 Points
  • 22:10:03, 13 March

Well i don't know about other people but when i see one like this, that is downvoted to the point where it isn't visible by default and then has a heap of child comments, i do because it's pretty funny to see people trying to enforce their opinions on people on the internet.

Also you're shitty at being mocking, if you're going to pretend to care about rape victims don't start acting like a three year old who lost an argument because really it kinda undermines the entirety of your message if you do.

To resolve this i suggest you troll smarter, not harder

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -1 Points
  • 22:32:55, 13 March

I'm not fucking pretending. And I'm not trying to enforce my opinion, unless you think 'asking someone not to use shitty language' is enforcement. There's nothing you people hate more than being called out, and it's fucking pathetic.

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  • [-]
  • c0ldsh0w3r
  • 2 Points
  • 21:41:21, 13 March

Nothing wrong with it. It's just a little off putting for some random to walk in finger wagging. "Now now, you don't use foul language!" If you really wanna help do ate to a survivors group or something. But don't ride in here on a white horse.

I will say however, you didn't need to be called a cunt. That's just rude.

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  • c0ldsh0w3r
  • 1 Points
  • 21:41:53, 13 March

Meant to type donate. Not do ate.

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • 1 Points
  • 21:53:07, 13 March

I'm not a random, I'm a reader of /r/civ. And I just happen to think that the OP's post was good, except for his unnecessary use of the word rape. I have no problem with 'foul language'. If you look at my posting history you'll see that. What I do have a problem with is people using triggering language without any good reason.

  • [-]
  • c0ldsh0w3r
  • -1 Points
  • 21:54:57, 13 March

That's cool. I don't disagree with you. It's just kind of like an 'eyeroll' thing.

Where as many other people just see it, roll their eyes, and move on. Someone comes in, takes offense, I roll my eyes, and move on.

Aaannndd that's what I'm doing now....

cheers!

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • 2 Points
  • 21:57:08, 13 March

You're missing the point. It's not about offence. It's about reliving trauma.

  • [-]
  • HippityLongEars
  • -2 Points
  • 21:45:36, 13 March

I think it's probably just an issue where there is a child posting in a place also populated by adults. To an adult, randomly saying "rape mobile" in the middle of an otherwise interesting post is just pointless. It doesn't add anything and it takes away from the post.

An adult saying "why did you use that phrase" is an incredibly polite and reasonable way to raise the issue, and this is the kind of polite challenge that can help convert a child into an adult.

  • [-]
  • c0ldsh0w3r
  • 3 Points
  • 21:52:35, 13 March

Is it childish? Yes. Do I use 'rape' as a term meaning absolute destruction? Yes. Ought I? No...however if I do use it, which is rare, I choose my target audience beforehand. Since while I'm at work I hangout mostly with Dudebros and other 'cool guys'. It's not that big a deal. My wife says I'm a big manchild, but other than my pathetic gaming lingo I am pretty considerate.

Point is I guess, it's not really worth the energy nor the right place to challenge someone's word usage online. Especially since the people like VforVehicle just seem to come out of the woodwork and become the child your trying to rehabilitate.

Ya feel me?

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  • nightride
  • 3 Points
  • 22:10:36, 13 March

You don't know who's reading this though, and I think this subreddit is a little more diverse than you think, if only slightly. I certainly am not a 'cool guy', I'm much less a dudebro, and if I were talked to like this IRL I'd cringe.

"We are not your friends" and all that; these might be nice people but we're all strangers here. You don't know if there are anybody who reads this subreddit who've been raped, statistically that would be likely.

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  • [-]
  • gburke
  • 6 Points
  • 21:23:01, 13 March

Over sensitive prick

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -4 Points
  • 21:37:06, 13 March

You seem offended.

  • [-]
  • gburke
  • 3 Points
  • 23:21:28, 13 March

Not offended, I just don't want to be bitched out for using a word. Rape is just a word and as far as I'm concerned perfectly usable. If something as a simple as a word bothers someone that much they should remove themselves from the situation, although it should be noted if its warranted one should certainly stand up against it, however a simple word like rape does not warrant it.

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  • Ziggamorph
  • 1 Points
  • 23:29:44, 13 March

> they should remove themselves from the situation

You aren't giving them a choice if you use it in incongruous and unnecessary situations like this post. If you knew someone who was a rape victim, would you use the word casually in front of them?

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  • gburke
  • 1 Points
  • 00:35:06, 14 March

Nope, but then again they can leave the thread. Not trying to offend anyone if there were such victims involved but the word is far removed from the experience.

  • [-]
  • modehead
  • -4 Points
  • 21:20:05, 13 March

I'm sorry you've been downvoted so much for being a nice, calm adult. You're right.

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -5 Points
  • 21:24:07, 13 March

Don't worry, I don't care about internet points.

  • [-]
  • jimpower
  • 3 Points
  • 22:35:54, 13 March

But...you cared about what the internet person said.

  • [-]
  • Ziggamorph
  • -3 Points
  • 22:43:39, 13 March

You can't see the difference? I care about people saying shitty things and causing harm. I don't care about the opinions of anonymous strangers.

  • [-]
  • RedRoostur
  • 4 Points
  • 00:26:48, 14 March

Wat. Then why should anyone care for yours? That's extremely egotistical to sit here and spout you don't care about stranger's opinions, while saying your's implying we should care.

  • [-]
  • jimpower
  • 1 Points
  • 00:27:39, 14 March

I can imagine it must be really difficult being you.