Redditor says, "And this is why I don't like makeup as a man. You look beautiful without it on." In /r/makeupaddiction. (np.reddit.com)
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274 comments submitted at 12:19:16 on Apr 5, 2014 by lifestyled
Redditor says, "And this is why I don't like makeup as a man. You look beautiful without it on." In /r/makeupaddiction. (np.reddit.com)
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261 ups - 84 downs = 177 votes
274 comments submitted at 12:19:16 on Apr 5, 2014 by lifestyled
That doesn't make any sense.
The only reason you know you look good is because of feedback from society/peers. If society/peers found ill-fitting pants and ratty t-shirts to be desirable, that is what you would put on when you wanted to "look your best".
Of course you are dressing for others. Your feeling of confidence directly comes from pleasing them.
Good job applying that Intro to Psychology on the psychoanalysis on me but you're still far off the mark. Yes, society determines fashion trends but that doesn't mean every time I dress up in a way that our society has deemed the "fashion" means I'm doing it with a conscious effort to please everyone else. I know my mind better than you do.
When I dressed up this morning and put on my shirt, my pants, tied my shoes and did my hair up I didn't look in the mirror and think "Yeah, all the bitches will think I look good! I am conforming to my societies standards of beauty!" No, I thought "Damn, I think I look damn good. I'd fuck myself." The feeling of confidence comes from me looking in the mirror and being proud of myself, no one else was in my room or my thoughts at the time except me and myself.
Society plays a big role in our lives but don't be so self absorbed that you think women dress up to give you a stiffy or that I dress up to give dudes a stiffy. There are people out there who do wear loose fitting clothes with chains hanging from the pockets and black eyeliner and black lipstick and black fingernails but they think they look like a million bucks and with that self-confidence comes a healthier, happier person.
I don't get his point. Sure, society influences what we think looks good, but if you've lived in that society your whole life what does that matter?
It completely doesn't, but lots of people feel a baffling need to act like they're outside of/above society and enlightened by this perspective.
It's an external factor, you feel good because you feel like part of a group. It wouldn't even be intro to psych it's just common sense.
I mean the entire point of the sub reddit is to show people how little you care about their opinion by asking for their opinion and showing off trends.
> It's an external factor, you feel good because you feel like part of a group.
Thank you for telling me how I think without any knowledge of how I actually think.
You're welcome however it's not how you think it's anthropology not psychology.
It's also pretty obvious if you were to take 10 seconds to look outside and go "holy shit people like to live together!" Or "holy shit everyone is dressing pretty much the same!" Or "holy shit we share a language!"
> When I dressed up this morning and put on my shirt, my pants, tied my shoes and did my hair up I didn't look in the mirror and think "Yeah, all the bitches will think I look good! I am conforming to my societies standards of beauty!" No, I thought "Damn, I think I look damn good. I'd fuck myself." The feeling of confidence comes from me looking in the mirror and being proud of myself, no one else was in my room or my thoughts at the time except me and myself.
Why didn't you wear that outfit to bed then?
Well, I did last night. Got home from hanging out with friends and just unbuttoned my shirt and fell on my face. Though I get what point you're struggling to make here -- why am I wearing gym shorts and a t-shirt right now or why do I go to sleep (generally) in my underwear?
When I'm going out and know I'm going to be interacting with people -- be it a date, a speech, or talking with a professor how I speak and how I present myself matters a lot. The attitude I have at the time matters a lot. When I think I look good and when I know I look good, that attitude comes out. Giving a speech in gym shorts and a t-shirt and giving a speech with good shoes, my hair done up how I like it, and wearing my favorite shirt and jacket are two different things because of how I feel. However, if I'm sitting at home shitposting on Reddit and stuffing my face with almond nuts like I am now I don't really care about my attitude or my confidence or anything like that. I actually dress and act differently depending on the situation!
I can't believe I have to actually explain this to you. Yes little Jimmy, people dress to the occasion! They like to look and feel good when they go out to meet other people but don't really care about looking and feeling like a million bucks when they're alone in their room falling asleep while watching Food Network. Yes I guess on some subconscious level I like "fitting in" and not looking like a bum but on every conscious level it is 100% and unequivocally for me and me alone when I dress myself up. And yes, sometimes I want to look like a million bucks and sometimes I just want to chill in gym shorts all day.
> They like to look and feel good when they go out to meet other people but don't really care about looking and feeling like a million bucks when they're alone in their room falling asleep while watching Food Network.
How do they know they look and feel good? Why don't you look like a million bucks while lounging in sweatpants?
The only variable in your equation is the presence of other people. Are you still going to persist with the notion that you are dressing for yourself?
Are you always such an insufferable tool or am I just getting the luxury treatment?
You are only lying to yourself. You are of course free to continue to do so.
Thank you for opening my mind, /u/TourDeFrancisBacon. Thank you for teaching me what I actually think and the motives, which I consciously decided on, actually are.
> which I consciously decided on
Of course. It is sheer coincidence that you have decided to conform to the societal constraints of beauty, and that you only "dress to impress" when others are present.
No one dresses for themselves. We all dress for others, and thrive upon the positive feedback we gain from it. That is where our confidence comes from.
There is nothing wrong with this fact. If you are so insecure you need to lie to yourself and pretend that you are doing everything for yourself, irrespective of society, you are free to do so. But the only person it hurts is you.
Instead justifying this post by giving it the respect of an actual reply, I'm just going to give you an assortment of .gifs accurately representing my reaction to this /r/iamverysmart tier bullshit.
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My son, one day you will stop being a monumental asshat. Take my hand and leave such things behind you. We all stop being 16 at some point, why drag it on longer?
Don't know why you're being downvoted, you're speaking the absolute truth. People can be such prats. "Dressing for myself", no one really believes that.
Linked OP wears makeup because she's insecure and hates her acne. Deal with it.
Because as a whole we are shallow, insecure people. And that's ok.
I truly wasn't looking to rub that insecurity into their faces, and one day they will surely reach the point in their lives where they are confident enough to face the truth.
I said what I said and the reaction to it doesn't bother me. Everyone needs to get there in their own time.
Well, later. I'm going to go eat a meal for me, not to meet my nutrition requirements.
Careful, you have roused the anger of the herd.