Mod drama in /r/Wisconsin over a troll. Leaked modmail, extra cheesy! (np.reddit.com)

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30 ups - 14 downs = 16 votes

29 comments submitted at 21:09:05 on Mar 19, 2014 by Pompsy

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  • CantaloupeCamper
  • 7 Points
  • 21:55:43, 19 March

There's some serious business happening there....

You scroll through that sub 9, comments, 6, 1, 4...... that one with 100+ now.

How can a sub so slow be worth the effort?

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  • KEM10
  • 4 Points
  • 23:41:56, 19 March

If you notice Tob Krean showed up and is replying to almost everything, so that artificially inflates the post count.

I frequent there and the only times I see him is when people are bitching about moderators or trying to get the troll in question banned.

EDIT: I will not summon SRDD. I will not summon SRDD. I will not summon SRDD. I will not summon SRDD...

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  • tob_krean
  • 4 Points
  • 02:27:18, 20 March

Hey man, people had questions and I bothered to take the time to answer, yourself included. So don't talk to me about "inflating the post count". I should make one post someplace that answers everyones questions, but everyone is different each time.

The reason "the only times I see him is when people are bitching about moderators or trying to get the troll in question banned" is because I used to be like Toasters, write out nice linked/sourced replies and Belandil would have his thumb up his ass and various "hurr durr" conservatives would harass the shit out of me and I still would be decent and provide factual information. On the flip side, the troll problem is mostly addressed and for some odd reason one moderator, who has lied to at least a couple dozen people and now just stabbed his best mod in the back, runs a Telfon interference for one guy. One person who is badly in need of help from the crap his parents put him through, but rather than seeking that help, he comes to /r/Wisconsin and puts everyone else through it.

I'm sorry if you think standing up for other redditors who are online friends and standing up for people who have repeatedly had slurs hurled at them "inflates the vote count" but so fucking be it.

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  • dumnezero
  • 2 Points
  • 12:16:36, 20 March

Happy Cake Day

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  • tob_krean
  • 2 Points
  • 15:12:09, 20 March

Thanks!

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  • corduroyblack
  • -2 Points
  • 01:08:29, 20 March

There is a vocal number of users absolutely obsessed with a troll who we've tried to ban, and who may or may not still be using the subreddit under another user name. We aren't sure.

I'm one of the remaining mods. Frankly, I find the entire drama quite bizarre.

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  • Pompsy
  • 9 Points
  • 01:31:04, 20 March

>may or may not

Top kek.

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  • corduroyblack
  • -5 Points
  • 01:36:19, 20 March

Hey, if we had proof of his identity or actual ban-worthy conduct from him, we'd ban.

But until then, we don't ban people willy-nilly.

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  • PeanutTheGladiator
  • 5 Points
  • 02:50:03, 20 March

What? Won't ban people willy-nilly? You're literally the love baby of Hitler and Stalin.

^^^sorry ^^^^I ^^^^^can't ^^^^^^help ^^^^^^^myself

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  • tob_krean
  • 5 Points
  • 03:21:39, 20 March

Hey Peanut, I'm tagging onto your comment because CB just replied to you, and the just deleted it. I have the screen shot in case anyone wants proof.

corduroyblack deleted comment:

> I find this whole thing just so sad. No one really understands that I begged to add another moderator for a year so that I could get support to ban MrBelmont. We finally did it. Yet, in the long run, it just didn't work out. > > > > Some of my favorite theories: > > > > Corduroyblack is MrBelmont > > Someone bought my account > > I'm a long term shill account for conservatives > > I had a psychotic break > > > > I really felt bad about removing him as a mod. But the fact remains that he just wasn't working with us as a team anymore. His conduct today just reaffirmed that while it was a tough call, but the right decision in the end. I wish we had messaged him about it first though. That was a mistake on my part.


My reply to corduroyblack's deleted comment:

> No one really understands that I begged to add another moderator for a year so that I could get support to ban MrBelmont. We finally did it. Yet, in the long run, it just didn't work out.

The fuck it didn't, you let off the gas.

You would always claim that the other two mods prevented you. Then Belandil finally got fed up with the Baggot thread and finally some action started. You dropped the ball, don't shift it on mst3kcrow, or allhands or even Belandil (like you always would make excuses in the past).

No, you came here with your "plea for a new moderation policy" saying all the same things we all have said then you changed your tune and started shifting the subreddit into some whacked ass tone police.

Again: polite bigotry is still bigotry

And even when people recognized Belmont needs help, like in real life, you keep this charade alive with your thumb up your ass saying "oh we don't know" when you admit to others you do in fact know. On this and countless other points, you are a liar.

> Some of my favorite theories:

The only theory I hear that people as me about is if you are Belmont. I have said that I think this is highly unlikely.

This makes it even more a mystery that in every. god. damned. thread. you play this intellectual jerk off exercise when you pretend you are powerless and throw everything and the kitchen sink to deflect, deflect, deflect from the one single troll that after going on 2 years escapes banishment for everyone's sake.

Make no mistake, I'm not here to argue for or against the troll. You're the real troll, as Belmont would never, ever had a run like this with out your complete help.

> I really felt bad about removing him as a mod.

The fuck you did, like you felt bad about banning me (or silently removing my comments, whichever you admit to, I don't care, one in the same) just like you felt bad about suggesting to bad mnpilot and jerk around mst3kcrow about it.

Yeah, you feel bad all the time and then go back to trippin'

> His conduct today just reaffirmed that while it was a tough call, but the right decision in the end. I wish we had messaged him about it first though. That was a mistake on my part.

Yeah, most here are calling bullshit. You're back in PR/containment mode, just like when you lied about your Kindle to others who didn't believe you then either.

Sorry man, I gave you the benefit of the doubt over half a dozen times now. Belmont isn't the problem, you are. And most everyone knows it.


I would have replied to his other comment, but didn't know if CB would delete that too. (Note: the mod in this subreddit could have deleted it, but I doubt it and have good reason for that doubt)

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  • corduroyblack
  • -3 Points
  • 03:24:51, 20 March

Yeah. I decided to PM it to him instead. It was up for about 2 seconds, so it's nice to know that you have something logging every single comment I make.

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  • tob_krean
  • 3 Points
  • 03:27:17, 20 March

> Yeah. I decided to PM it to him instead. It was up for about 2 seconds, so it's nice to know that you have something logging every single comment I make.

Dude, I was in mid reply and you fucking deleted. What do you expect. I don't have "something logging every single comment you make" it's called "print screen and paste into paint"

I wasn't going to waste my reply after you posted, that's your problem

Not to mention, how did you know how to reply to this comment? And yet you accuse others.

Pot->Kettle->CorduroyBlack

This is why people don't trust you, because they know your word is a moving target.

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  • tob_krean
  • 5 Points
  • 03:05:23, 20 March

> if we had proof

You have proof and said so yourself.

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  • mnpilot
  • 3 Points
  • 03:04:04, 20 March

And by willy nilly he really means on a whim.

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  • mnpilot
  • 8 Points
  • 03:11:13, 20 March

Well you're obsessed enough to want to help him and then protect him. All the while being a shitty mod at letting the sub descend down this path.

And make yourself king of the sub.

Bravo.

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  • tob_krean
  • 3 Points
  • 02:30:50, 20 March

> There is a vocal number of users absolutely obsessed with a troll who we've tried to ban, and who may or may not still be using the subreddit under another user name. We aren't sure.

The fuck you aren't sure, you straight up told other people they admitted as such, unless you want to blame that on allhands (you can't blame it on Belandil now, he's gone).

> I'm one of the remaining mods.

Yeah, after you lied to get the position then Belandill quit because your hybrid ban/no-ban system wasn't working and then you stabbed mst3kcrow in the back. Sure, you're a "remaining" mod.

> Frankly, I find the entire drama quite bizarre.

Yeah, and many people find it bizarre, so much so that about a dozen have PM'd to ask me, if you must be Belmont because of the great, great lengths you go to protect him at all costs.

The sub was finally in order when I left it to lurk, and stopping back now and then I see left to your devices, its back in shambles. I'd say you're the long con troll, to be honest.

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  • corduroyblack
  • -4 Points
  • 02:47:26, 20 March

> There is a vocal number of users absolutely obsessed with a troll

Like I was saying...

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  • tob_krean
  • 4 Points
  • 03:04:04, 20 March

> Like I was saying...

Who has two thumbs and just stabbed their best mod in the back. We'll, it wasn't me. (This is where you hold up your hands and go "this guy".)

Go ahead, deflect and lie. I don't have the patience of Toasters. I used to put that effort in and then people like you make the subreddit unusable because of your obsession to defend a troll you all agreed on permabanning with all their alts.

Then you went back on that, played shadow games with other users, stabbed your best mod in the back, and now here we are again, when back at the end of last year you and I were talking about how peaceful it was.

YOU. You are the one who fucked that up. Look in the mirror. It was you.

And since you can't even remember half of what you say, perhaps you don't even realize you are a pathological liar. You say one thing to one person, another to another person, can't keep track of it all then have the audacity to pretend you delete comments accidentally because of your kindle harass and malign the very users that Trollmont trolls, and I'm the person you point out as obsessed.

I'm barely there anymore because of the shithole you created.

I just stop back to defend people like mst2kcrow, mnpilot, 4-bit, Wi^6, and countless others who are of a different orientation, race, class or otherwise.

So you're not kidding anyone when you say "like I was saying" because you're the one 24x7 who keeps this alive and fucks over everyone else to do it and I stop back when your shit breaks and points it out, and you have the nerve to call me obsessed? That's rich!

I haven't been around much in 4 months for how much I care, jackass. If you want to call me verbose, fine. Its not a short story. But WTF dude, as I said you're send people to me to explain the story of how you took a reddit, commandeered it, almost had order and lost it.

Give that, you get what you get.