Physical violence in a relationship would be a dealbreaker for one user. Second user asks their gender. Hence drama. (np.reddit.com)
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39 comments submitted at 16:58:48 on Mar 24, 2014 by SamWhite
Physical violence in a relationship would be a dealbreaker for one user. Second user asks their gender. Hence drama. (np.reddit.com)
SubredditDrama
58 ups - 11 downs = 47 votes
39 comments submitted at 16:58:48 on Mar 24, 2014 by SamWhite
The "sources?!" thing is so fucking annoying on reddit. A formal source is required in a discussion where a user says that violence against them is a deal breaker? Ridiculous.
Please provide a detailed rubric of what defines ridiculousness.
Except that's not what he was asking for sources for? A user made the statement "Men get abused all the time." and the troll responded with a request for the source of that supposedly factual statement.
While I agree that guy is definitely a troll, I don't see what's wrong with asking people to back up claims about measurable things.
I believe domestic abuse against men is an issue, but I am unable to back this up because looking up domestic abuse statistics at work is probably a bad idea.
A source is seriously required for the assertion that men can be the victims of abuse?
You keep warping the words that were said in order to fit your intended agenda here.
agenda? Go on...
I'm really not sure, but you first presented it as
>A formal source is required in a discussion where a user says that violence against them is a deal breaker?
When, while that was the topic starter, that was not what a source was being asked for. Then when I pointed it out you changed it to:
>A source is seriously required for the assertion that men can be the victims of abuse?
Which, again, was not what was in question. So it would seem to me that either you're purposely misinterpreting the discussion for the sake of being outraged, or you have an agenda.
The question is meaningless unless you feel like quantifying "all the time" since I sure as fuck don't since that phrase doesn't mean anything in an informal internet discussion.
I don't see how that grants you an excuse to twist the words that were said in order to play "Look how incredulous I am everyone!"
As Kyaanisgoatse said above, it is pretty easy to interpret that as "Frequently enough to be relevant" but ultimately that boils down to what you think is enough to make it relevant. I'm personally in the "If abuse happens at all then it is relevant" camp but the troll (if he were genuine, though he is not) may have a different opinion. That is where a source citing frequency of occurrences or contrasting them to occurrences of male on female violence would be useful.
>an excuse to twist the words that were said
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>interpret that as "Frequently enough to be relevant"
I guess I just interpret 'happens all the time' to mean 'happens' which it obviously does. In any case, all of this is pointless pedantry.
Duh. By default men are super strong and dont take no woman's bullshit. No one can abuse us, we're too strong
Not that men can be... that men are all of the time.
It's a fair thing to ask I think... but it's completely irrelevant anyway. Whether it happens once a year or once a second doesn't really matter... since we are only talking about situations where it does happen.
Just to make sure I understand you, are you saying that "men aren't abused with any real frequency" or "men are not the sole victims of abuse" (given the context that we are discussing what you think the other person is saying)?
Oh, in that context.. I meant the "with any real frequency".
OK, so you don't think men are abused very often then?
Because just a quick glance shows that approximately 30% of heterosexual males report being domestically abused in the US alone.
> given the context that we are discussing what you think the other person is saying
"all the time" doesn't really have a concrete meaning though, so it's not super important. It obviously doesn't mean literally always.
not to mention that that was an informal discussion and not an academic paper, so "all the time" is generally taken by non-pedants to mean "frequently enough to be relevant"
That too.
I am going to need some sources on that.