Some juicy mod drama in /r/tumblrinaction over new rules. One user strongly suggests that a mod should resign. (np.reddit.com)
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125 comments submitted at 03:11:48 on Mar 23, 2014 by IAmAN00bie
Some juicy mod drama in /r/tumblrinaction over new rules. One user strongly suggests that a mod should resign. (np.reddit.com)
SubredditDrama
73 ups - 37 downs = 36 votes
125 comments submitted at 03:11:48 on Mar 23, 2014 by IAmAN00bie
...and now TiA is going further into the MRA sphere.
If anything, the mods should've banned all the "le feminists are evol lel" posts
Sorry, what? How do you get to that conclusion from this post? Nice stretch.
People are always looking for reasons to shit on TiA. Probably belongs to a group that gets mocked there all the time. Nothing new.
Yep. This happens every single time TiA is brought up.
>TiA was a great sub until my pet cause was ridiculed. Now it sucks and is full of racists/sexists/redheads/whatever.
A good example of that was the outrage over the Welcome to Tumblr video. Here is a best of, of that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpBGOnlTJ3U
What's funny is when people use this exact same defense for srs people like you lose their shit.
/r/WhatAboutSRS
Are you SRS? You use SRS arguments, then link their subs. I think you might be SRS. No wonder they booted you at SRSS.
Mkay, have fun with your tinfoil conspiracies there bud.
Careful though, I hear the (insert defunct secret society here) watch reddit for posts like yours.
Okay. You got kicked out the lowest fruit of meta subs then use hypocritical arguments. I'm just stating the facts. It's no wonder you got fired over there.
>fired
0/10 not even b8
here you are using SRS arguments so I can see why they would. I don't think you could cut it with the mental giants at SRSS
I didn't think they were on the schedule today.
Can't speak for them, but there are far more reasons to draw that conclusion than this one post.
> If anything, the mods should've banned all the "le feminists are evol lel" posts
Why would we do that? It's our job to laugh at wackos, not to do PR for your pet cause.
> ...and now TiA is going further into the MRA sphere.
Care to explain like I'm five? I've never gotten this vibe and/or I'm missing something.
From what i've seen so far, TIA hates social justice warriors (SJWs) and by extension feminists. This has drawn in a lot of Mens Rights Advocates (MRAs) who are also anti-feminists.
The real irony is that MRAs in TIA don't realize that they are also social justice warriors
>The real irony is that MRAs in TIA don't realize that they are also social justice warriors.
Never really thought about mra's like that. But, I'll be damned, you are right.
I've brought this up against a MRA once, and his counter argument was that "MRAs are open to discussion" and "they'll hear you out". Yeah.
"We'd open minded. And don't try to tell us otherwise."
Exactly. Thank God there are lots of anti-TERF posts on TiA, but I wish there were more anti-TRP/MRA posts. There's a surprising amount of crazy MRA-type tumblrs out there.
> anti-TERF
I've not heard this term before, what does it mean?
"Trans-exclusionary radical feminists". They are feminists who argue that men who dress like women and/or have a sex change operation should not have access to women's programs, safe-spaces, etc. because they haven't gone through life living what women go through.
TERF=Trans-exclusionary radfem.
There are plenty, we encourage them but you'll pay see what people post. If you want to see more anti-MRA posts, post them. EFS created a red pill circle jerk sub.
Would it be considered popcorn-pissing if someone posted every new post from A Voice For Men? Because most of the shit there is pretty crazy.
Not popcorn pissing but im pretty sure you'd be banned for spam :D
Unless they changed the rules around recently, not likely. There's usually some flavor-of-the-month blog whose updates almost all get featured and karma-whored regularly, such as This Is Thin Privilege and Transcats.
Is transcat back? she deleted her blog last time i was checking out the sub regularly.
There's still an archive of her blog somewhere! I was really happy when I found it because I loved transcat
I don't know what that is, but crazy MRA stuff has gone over pretty well in the past. You should try it.
I don't think it'd be popcorn pissing if you're not messing with the linked drama. Go ahead and post it. It'll probably go over well. The redpill stuff that gets posted is usually from Return of Kings so this would be a nice change of pace.
There used to be a ton. Then the MRAs showed up and took over.
Are there many TRP-style tumblr blogs then? I only know of tumblr from TiA, and they seem to only post radfem and fat acceptance links.
>TIA hates social justice warriors (SJWs) and by extension feminists
That's pretty insulting to most feminists. There's a huge difference between feminism and tumblr feminism, and TiA only focuses on the latter.
A similar phenomenon happens on /r/worldnews with Islam
Present only examples of crazy, extreme Muslims and people will become convinced that they the norm
That can certainly be a problem, but you could say the same thing about any meta subreddit, including this one. There's really no way to prove this, but I think if you spend some time in the comment sections in TiA you'd be surprised by how understanding they are of the fact that what they're laughing at isn't representative of feminism as a whole.
The difference here though is when we see craziness that is upvoted in their respective sub.
On our front page there's a redpill post that is almost certainly pro-date-rape. It got a score of 100+ on the redpill front page.
When reasonable and dissenting opinions get shouted down and extreme crazy is upvoted you know there's a problem.
Right. It's stupid. TiA initially was overall a pretty sane, middle of the road place. They were dedicated to mocking SJWs, but they also weren't the reactionary idiots they are now. They were pretty firmly overall in the "whatever, treat people as individuals" camp. Now they're essentially just like the SJWs they mock, but with the opposite position. Like a lite version of SRS and /pol/.
I haven't really seen anything like that. Could you post some examples?
It is funny how none of the TiA critics can actually provide any examples of their claims and even admit that they don't even browse the subreddit.
to be fair if you saved everything that offended you on reddit to access easily you're prolly not in a good camp either.
It's not TIA critics, it's critics of any subreddit. I don't like /r/atheism and when my religion was being discussed I said ama and people were assholes. I didn't save the link because it was a) two accounts ago and b) I don't care enough to dredge it up. Doesn't mean I'm making stuff up.
No, not really. I haven't been a regular there for a very long time.
>TiA only focuses on the latter
If only. It's not so much the links as the comments that display a growing proportion of subscribers who are vocally hostile to most forms of feminism, whatever they might be.
> From what i've seen so far, TIA hates social justice warriors (SJWs) and by extension feminists.
What? TiA hates radical Tumblr extremists who live outside the realm of normal civilization. SJW has become a pejorative for a radfem, not a sane feminist like /u/greenduch Good morning Greenie! I don't think any rational feminist would identify as an /r/againstmensrights user, but would choose to embrace their cause and only shout down the extremists.
P.S. Fuck /r/TheRedPill. That is not MensRights!
>What? TiA hates radical Tumblr extremists who live outside the realm of normal civilization.
What world do you live in?
>Modern feminism is a joke.
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>[feminism] focuses on one gender and by definition cannot be equality.
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>People like Erin pizzey, we need a few thousand more people like her to combat the fucking crazy of modern feminism.
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> Feminism has to die, its just not worth the trouble of living.
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>feminism is a joke
Every single one of those comments are overwhelming upvoted in this thread.
> Modern feminism is a joke.
In the eyes of today's online community who are exposed to the vocal of the extremists? yes.
>[feminism] focuses on one gender and by definition cannot be equality.
Same answer.
>People like Erin pizzey, we need a few thousand more people like her to combat the fucking crazy of modern feminism.
Only only an MRA or a meta user would even know that name. I'll concede the point.
>Feminism has to die, its just not worth the trouble of living.
Don't blame this shit on MRA's! This is a direct result of the term feminism being watered down my the radicals.
Stop counting the upvotes and try and realize the "why". feminism is what "equalism". Equality for both sexes. If you don't listen when men discuss what they think is important, how do you expect them to listen to you!?
I'm not "blaming MRAs", I'm saying it's blatantly obvious that the majority of TiA users are anti-feminism, not just anti-SJW.
And it's kinda priceless that you accuse me of that while simultaneously blaming feminist for tainting feminism, when like 90% of your exposure to the ideology is from anti-feminists on TiA.
I disagree. TiA is a circlejerk sub. A sub where people not only mock others, but encourage others to join in and are upvoted for the effort.
This is the same as SRS being called a misandrist bigoted sub, when you all claim to be a circlejerk.
Except we know the "It's a circlejerk." is a flimsy defense that is meant to deflect that the opinions in that sub are actually genuine. SRS may do it but we know the opinions are still pretty genuine. PCMasterRace may be a circlejerk sub but the opinions in it are still serious and when you act like idiots you'll find yourself in company of idiots who believe they are in good company.
TiA is a shithole because it lost the middleground. The middleground was to laugh at the extreme edges but still maintain the middleground and recognize that not everyone is like that while having some productive discussion. Then the vote-patterns started shifting as the MRA/Anti-femininst/pol/ crowd started to move in and circlejerk while the middleground or anyone that may actually recognize that it is a nuanced issue and feminism isn't what gets linked to by TIA got downvoted. The vote patterns shifted to that extreme and the middle left because nobody likes to have their posts at the bottom of the page.
Now it basically an MRA/Anti-femininst/pol/ subreddit. Which means the comment section is shit unless you find them in good company. I don't find them good company because they are idiots from one direction laughing at the idiots from another direction.
Thank you for describing so well what I and other ~~social justice~~ feminist minded people experienced over the past year. They slowly became more and more skewed to one viewpoint, and I had better things to do than sub to MRA-lite.
I've seen people on TiA who identify as feminists and get upvoted. I suppose the negative attitude towards feminist is because a lot of online feminist activists are actually the sexist kind that claims that sexism against men doesn't exist. So these examples you mentioned are overgeneralizations. But I've never seen a feminist who actually believes in gender equality get insulted on TiA.
Argh bloody hell David it's too early in the morning for me to get into this.
You're using the term radfem wrong. If anything, I'm more radfem in my beliefs than most.
While I'm not an AMR user, I stand in solidarity with them and consider them comrades.
Also, are you shilling for MRAs now? Lol.
I shill for anyone who fills me coffers!
Also, I suppose I meant that you are rational, not a cookoo Tumblrina.
Its annoying because it quickly demonstrates that everything you've learned about feminism has been from anti-feminist sources, such as TiA.
I know all about feminism. Don't confuse my enjoyment and fuckery with naivety. I don't post in TiA anymore for a reason, but I don't think they are anti-feminist either.
ITT, david-me knows all about feminism. He knows so much about feminism, in fact, that he doesn't know what the fuck the term radfem means. Brilliant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism
Cute puppy.
>The real irony is that MRAs in TIA don't realize that they are also social justice warriors
Does anyone in SJW make posts about them?