Picture of Empire State Building burning after being hit by a B-25 bomber in 1945 sparks predictable 9/11 drama in HistoryPorn (self.SubredditDrama)
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56 comments submitted at 07:55:22 on Mar 21, 2014 by 041744
but the planes landed and let the passangers off, then they fitted big box things to the bottom of them so they could remotely fly them. Then they turned into missiles. GW knew before it happened! It's all the New World Orders fault, you know it! Gary from Indiana was abducted by aliens and they implated the knowledge into his head, now he's being held in super max alpha level 5,000,000 solitary. This was all foretold by the Mayan calander and Nostradamus. There was a bomb in the basement. Larry Silverstein rigged detonation charges throughout the buildings to claim insurance. Etc etc...
Do you believe now sheeple? Can't you see what they are doing to you???
Who the fuck are they and why are they always trying to do things? Seriously, people who believe this crap have WAY too much time on their hands.
You cast all of them as crazy when there are a lot of different opinions.. The least of which being that America knew and let it happen. If you look into I (ie the shit ton of warnings America got) it seems that the us government was at best very neglectful. Possibly even purposely letting it happen on purpose to allow for the patriotic act and the invasions in the Middle East.
The 9/11 committee being spied on by the 3 letter agencies is very suspect too.
Lately the Osama thing is sus. The legitimacy of his ties to it are suspect. Especially because of everything surrounding his death. It's likely he died much earlier than they said. Which coincidentally was right before election time. Then no photos were released and his body was dropped in an undisclosed location in the ocean. Then to seal the deal they releasing a big budget Hollywood blockbuster about it.
You're doing your country no good by casting anyone who questions the official 9/11 story as crazy conspiracy theorists. Yes there are some but a lot of people just want to know the truth.
Lol what's with all the downvotes? Sus...
How certain are you that 9/11 is a conspiracy? And what do you think the odds are that some time in the future that the "truth" will come out? And what are you doing to make sure this "truth" comes out, other than asking questions?
I'm certain we don't have the full story. We may never find out. I hope that assanges death file or snowdens "big stuff" has something but there will never be a smoking gun. Quite possibly because there isn't one and it was just extreme negligence. Criminal negligence is a thing though.
Are you implying that not being vocal invalidates what I say?
I'm not implying anything. I'm just asking questions.
"The truth" of course being "I only want to know things that confirm my personal belief that the government was involved and will disregard anything to the contrary".
I don't know why you try to defend them, when they'll throw you under the bus the moment you disagree. In fact, you've already committed a cardinal sin by claiming that, of all opinions, "the least of which being to at America knew and let it happen." The majority over there already believe the government made it happen, despite lacking any evidence or proof or even a sound fucking theory.
And you're trying to make out that someone else is an idiot while trying to connect Hollywood and Osama's death as a government conspiracy? Because you've "looked into it"? What have you looked into? A bunch of alarmist blogs trying to sell you gold that link to each other without any shred of integrity or real journalism?
And you finish by trying to make the person seem like they're anti-American due to their very accurate portrayal on just how far gone most of these conspiracy theorists are. Seems like something a shill would do, doesn't it, shill?
All in all, nobody is here to hear your BRAND NEW OMG TOTAL PROOF OSAMA WAS OBAMA WAS BUSH WAS WTC WAS FAAAAAAAAAAAKE bullshit. You've never proved anything to anyone who wasn't already a gullible prick with an authority issue, because YOU NEVER HAVE ANY ACTUAL PROOF OF ANYTHING. The constant lack of basic scientific and engineering knowledge presented in these theories only hurts your reputation more than anyone else could ever dream of.
But, I'm a government shill whose eyes aren't open and I'm not awake because I bah like the sheeple.
Shit man you have issues. That was a big wall of crazy.
But anyway since you're discrediting what I "looked into" about people warning the government about 9/11 here's a list of governments who are really just crazy conspiracy theorists according to you:
Italy Jordan Israel Uk Egypt
If you don't believe me then google it and you'll see that all these countries informed the us. And I never said you are a shill.
"Just study it out man, just study it out. I don't want to provide actual sources because I'm afraid they are inherently fallacious, but if I tell you to go to Google, then I'm off the hook for supporting my beliefs and can just claim that anything you criticize doesn't align with my true beliefs."
And what the fuck are you even trying to say about other governments? Can you even formulate a coherent thought?
Follow the bouncing ball. I'm saying according to you those governments must be conspiracy theorists. You have the ravings of a paranoid schizophrenic.
I'm on my mobile but a simple google search will show reputable sources saying what I said. Even wikipedia has a condensed informative section on it if that's more your intellect level. It's even in the 9/11 commission report.
> You have the ravings of a paranoid schizophrenic.
Oh that's rich..
Isn't it ironic? Usually it's the opposite but he sounds insane
You realize that warning of a possible attack on an undetermined day in an undetermined method is not proof that the US government allowed it to happen, right?
You've provided no proof, other than "Google it", and likely never will because you'll continue to make excuses.
OOH OOH OOH and thanks for the implication that my intellect can't handle such big truths, mister! Poor dumb me with my widdle bwain just can't understand all these known twuths!
I'd explain to you exactly why you need to seek mental help about these paranoid delusions and the gullibility to believe whatever some whack job tells you about authority, but I'd rather you just "Google it".
If you actually looked into it you'd see that the tips included the method, that it was in the near future, and it was on a major is target. Furthermore I think Jordan (or maybe another) informed the us that terrorists were training pilots. Mossad sent a list of a names from a suspected terrorist cell to the us. The hijackers were on the list.
The FBI were alerted to a guy learning to fly with terrorist connections and computer files lined to 9/11 but never followed up. Google his name, zacarias moussaoui.
To paraphrase a quote by John lofts, us federal crimes prosecutor "the information provided by European intelligence agencies is so extensive that the CIA and fbi can't plead incompetence"
So what you're saying is you still can't provide evidence other than telling people to Google it (because you're "on mobile"), and that this information was super super specific even though 'major target' and 'near future' don't really narrow down a single thing. Oh, a method was provided? Proof please.
And to paraphrase myself, "A Google search for both John Lofts and John Iofts returned nothing besides a blog about debunking Christianity and a bunch of businesses renting lofts. That's totally proof that the government was behind 9/11."
And where's the proof that the FBI was alerted to Moussaoui by the French? Are you aware that the other hijackers lied to conceal his name and history? Are you aware that his flight instructor alerted the authorities about him due to him acting suspicious, and that he was arrested in August of 2001? That he didn't participate in the hijacking of any of the planes? That requests to hack into his laptop were denied (but GUBMINT NSA EVIL 4TH AMENDMENT)? That someone who was already being interrogated had identified him as having previously been part of an al-Qaeda camp, but wasn't asked about him until after 9/11?
These are all documented facts, with actual proof behind them. And what you're saying, has no proof.
Now, where you see GUBMINT CONSPIRACY KILL AMERICANS TAKE MA FREEZE PEACH, I see someone who the FBI had no reason to believe was a threat entering the country, being noticed for suspicious behavior, being arrested before acting on that behaviour due to immigration violation, and the very same protections in the constitution that theorists claim are taken away were protecting his laptop from being unreasonably searched. I see, essentially, things that couldn't possibly be connected before 9/11 due to lack of perceived threat.
What you see, however, requires mental gymnastics to tie all of these events together into a government conspiracy that you just FEEL happened.
Lmao you're right I'm usin mental gymnastics by linking the government receiving at least 11 tips to negligence. And there's people who politically shit on you who agree the government is holding stuff back. For fucks sake if you saw the report you'd see that stuff is redacted. You're painting me as some conspiracy nut for thinking the governmnent is withholding information. That's fact. And honestly you're doing a disservice to your country by eating up their story completely.
Call me a conspiracy nut if you want but people much more knowledgable then you'll ever be have made statements. And do you really need me to hold your hand through this? It's no wonder your so ignorant if you can't even figure out google.
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> Follow the bouncing ball.
Oh my god, I love how people who are actually into this conspiracy theory shit always turn out to be exactly like the cliche stereotypes of conspiracy theory nuts. It's basically the only cliched stereotype that's actually completely true.
Fun fact! Afghanistan is not part of the middle east!