Anti-Revenge Porn activist appears in IAMA. Several Redditors are not happy with her. Developing drama throughout! (np.reddit.com)
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78 comments submitted at 21:25:04 on Mar 15, 2014 by Augustine0615
Anti-Revenge Porn activist appears in IAMA. Several Redditors are not happy with her. Developing drama throughout! (np.reddit.com)
SubredditDrama
59 ups - 19 downs = 40 votes
78 comments submitted at 21:25:04 on Mar 15, 2014 by Augustine0615
When a person, who we shall call "moron", makes naked pictures (or sex tapes) that they send to someone else (recipient). Recipient then gets mad at moron and posts the indiscreet pictures online.
Moron now thinks she should be protected from her own stupidity
I will never understand why you people think the fault lies with people who just wanted to share an intimate moment with someone who was intimate at the time, rather than the dickwads who want to use that just to hurt them and harass them. Nor do I want to.
I support personal responsibility. There's a very easy way to never get featured on a revenge porn site
People have had their email hacked and images stolen from them that were not sent to anyone else. Also there were people of whom fake nude images were made using photoshop. So no, you are wrong.
It's quite telling how the you choose to describe the sender as "moron", and yet the petty and dishonourable "recipient" is just a "recipient". Who then merely "gets mad".
Personal responsibility my ass. You're trying to absolve these perverts of their responsibility for their actions by blaming the victims.
Nope. Because the victims caused the situation in the first place by taking the pictures. I mean, I'd say that's pretty dumb. Hence, they are morons.
Did a rape victim cause the situation by wearing a nice dress?
Not even slightly comparable. The RvP victim literally caused the pictures to exist
So? The rape victim literally caused themselves to appear in a hot dress.
Taking a nude photo of yourself does not automatically lead to, nor excuse, someone posting them on a revenge porn site, any more than the way you dress automatically leads to, or excuses, a rape. They both ultimately occur because of the decisions of creeps.
The reasoning you use to excuse these creeps isn't just comparable, it's exactly identical. The fact is that there's absolutely nothing wrong with taking a picture of yourself. There absolutely is something wrong about someone using that to harass and extort you.
No, there's nothing wrong with taking a picture of yourself. It's just incredibly stupid.
Like it's stupid to wear a hot dress on a Saturday night? Like it's stupid to leave your door unlocked? Like it's stupid to have a nicer business card than a psychopath? That's all irrelevant. Rape is still caused by rapist, burglary by the burglar, murder by the murderer. They're the ones who did something wrong.
Someone asked what revenge porn was, and you answered it entirely in the context of something the victim ("moron") did, rather than the actual perpetrator (the "recipient" who merely "gets mad").
You have a very skewed focus on this. And by skewed I mean sick.
Not getting a girlfriend, which I'm assuming is the root of your issues here.
I see I was not the only one who was getting that impression.
It's posts like yours that make me so glad that res tagging is a thing.
OK
It's not that black and white. So I'm a never nude and it think if someone secretly take a photo of you when you're naked, you're a motion for being naked which is what allowed that scenario to occur.
When you're in a relationship with someone, you have to trust them to some degree. I would trust my girlfriend to not have hidden cameras in the bedroom. Am I being a moron for trusting her to not be a creep?
It's just one more step to trust your SO enough to knowingly allow them to take named photos under the condition that it remains a private thing between the two of you.
You can be a cynical bastard and never trust anyone, but it's not exactly a healthy relationship if you don't trust your girlfriend out boyfriend. Sex isn't that fun if you can't try new things because you're afraid the other person will tell everyone what sorts of things you're into.
Since you were the most cordial, I'll explain where I was coming from.
To be honest, I don't expect you to never trust anyone, or not trust your SO. But I still think the responsibility is on you to not trust people. So while I know you will, it doesn't change the fact that since you did you're responsible for the fallout.
Downvoted for posting the truth. Typical reddit.
That's not "truth", that's just a creep blaming the victims for the callousness of their harassers.
You sound like one of those morons that won't take responsibility for their dumbass decisions.
And you sound like a creepy rape apologist - and not the Tumblr SJW hyperbolic kind, the real kind.
Ultimately there's nothing wrong whatsoever with taking a photo of yourself, any more than there is with wearing a hot dress on a night out. The ones who use that to to harass, humiliate or extort someone are the ones who are doing something wrong, and what you're doing here is nothing less than trying to absolve them of their responsibility for their actions. So don't presume to be in a position to preach to anyone about responsibility.
The moment you send someone a nude photo of yourself, you are taking full responsibility for whatever happens with it. It it ends up on the Internet you have no right to complain, as you already accepted that as a possibility the instant you hit send. If requiring people to act like adults and take responsibility for their own actions and decisions makes me a "creepy rape apologist" then I can live with that.
You miss the fact that the people have gotten their emails hacked and photos stolen even though they were sent to no one else, while others had fake photos made of them using photoshop, so even the point you're trying to make is moot.
But it doesn't matter. Even if these revenge porn sites did rely entirely on photos that were voluntarily sent to other people, it does not excuse what they do one iota. You talk about taking responsibility but what you're actually doing is trying to allow these creeps to evade it.
Haha. It's fine. I don't have any "reddiquette" delusions. Downvotes are simply a popularity meter.