A thread in /r/casualIama about a pedophile goes just as you would expect (np.reddit.com)
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214 comments submitted at 01:03:03 on Dec 8, 2013 by coozay
A thread in /r/casualIama about a pedophile goes just as you would expect (np.reddit.com)
SubredditDrama
72 ups - 18 downs = 54 votes
214 comments submitted at 01:03:03 on Dec 8, 2013 by coozay
Just like in AA. Admitting and talking about it is therapeutic.
AA has a 5% success rating. Bad comparison. Very bad comparison.
edit: Alcoholism isn't a disease, either. Sorrys. People just rack-a da diciprine.
>Alcoholism, the more serious of the disorders, is a disease that includes symptoms such as:
http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-use-disorders
Alcoholism is a symptom in 99% of the cases, not a disease in itself. It's a diagnosis, which will publicly be simplified as a disease, but almost no 100% mentally sound person will become severely addicted to alcohol. Each and every single addict to any substance I got to know, and that's a lot, used it to either fix a hole in their personality, or to block out traumata etc. Same for a lot of other afflictions - for instance, depression is also a symptom and not a self-sufficient disease in almost all cases.
Why isn't meth-addiction, then?
Addiction is a disease marked by three primary symptoms:
The addict has difficulty controlling the drug use. The addict uses the drug excessively or frequently and has extreme difficulty making the choice not to use the drug.
Use of the drug causes problems in the addict’s life. Addicts typically withdraw from family and friends and also experience job-related difficulty, financial drain, and other negative consequences.
The addict feels a strong craving to use the drug, which can be associated with psychological triggers as well as physical symptoms.
Um, yeah. No. These aren't symptoms of a disease, it's the symptoms of a junkie who can't control himself.
When it comes down to it, it's a choice. Period. Get over it, brutha. As much as they want to be a special interest group, they just lack discipline.
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/5-17.htm
Alcoholism is classified as a disease.
No, it's still just a theory. Sorry.
lol.
Right back at ya.
That's some ignorant bullshit, mate.
Bullshit.
Ah yes, the most credible source on the Internet. Penn and Teller's bullshit. Please good sir, let a mere peasant get out of your path, lest your brace and Noble intellect crush me like a beetle with a crunchy shell.
All I hope is that you haven't watched zeitgeist, or surely your enlightenment would be like that of a thousand Suns.
Yeah, you're right. I'll just listen to YOU, random redditor.
edit: Zeigeist was bullshit, 9/11 wasn't an inside job, and I fucking hate r/atheism.
I'd say I'm an equally credible source. Unless we're talking about magic.
I'm way more credible than zeitgeist.
As a former addict, I'm the only source I need concerning addiction and if it is a disease or not. It isn't. I just needed to get some back-bone and man the fuck up.
Do you view mental illness this way to, or are you only calloused to addicts?
How do you mean?
Please keep into consideration before going further, that you have no idea my experience with either.
I'd take mainstream medical consensus and the likes of the American Medical Association and British Medical Association, both of which classify alcoholism as a disease, over Penn & Teller. The idea that it is not is fringe science. Of course you'll always be able to find one guy who will argue against it but that is not the scientific consensus any more than finding one guy to argue against global warming means that isn't happening.
Adoption studies have shown a strong genetic component to alcoholism. That it is a "disease" of course does not mean that willpower and the addicts own free will and self control is irrelevant, of course it's not. But someone with a genetic predisposition, or who has simply habituated themselves, is just going to have a harder time of it.
No comment on the effectiveness of 12 step programmes, that is an entirely different matter as to whether it is a disease or not.
Also, just because someone is an alcoholic, does not mean they will drink and drive.
Actually, it's almost a guarantee.
Also, this.