Former Inmates of reddit - how are rapists/pedophiles REALLY treated once in prison (self.AskReddit)

1726 ups - 495 downs = 1231 votes

You always hear that most are brutally bullied/beat in prison. Wondering if some of it is exaggerated, or under stated. Also how do other inmates feel about rapists and pedophiles regardless of action being taken or not. (Possibly NSFW) [SERIOUS!]

1138 comments submitted at 19:39:42 on Dec 4, 2013 by bluesboarder

  • [-]
  • Cliqey
  • 19 Points
  • 21:09:04, 4 December

Yeah, no, I'm sorry, not gonna let this one slide. I am a "victim" also, but first of all, I don't let that define me.

It is definitely your right to think and feel however you want, but when you start encouraging harmful actions that could affect another person, you are crossing a line. There is a difference between saying "I feel warm" and "There's a fire!" when you are in a crowd.

Fine, be a vindictive, vengeful person, but do the world a favor and do so in your own head. Don't go feeding the flames and making the world even more violent and hateful than it already is.

  • [-]
  • HillaB
  • 1 Points
  • 21:33:53, 4 December

> encouraging harmful actions

Maybe I missed it but... where was she encouraging anything here? She has hope that the person who hurt her gets hurt in the same way. I don't think she's out paying someone to do it, or broadcasting her attacker's name and cell block number. She hopes he gets a punishment that is equal to what he put her through. And she is just as much allowed to state these hopes as you are to state that you disagree with them.

  • [-]
  • Backstyck
  • 1 Points
  • 21:58:42, 4 December

Her original comment was thanking the inmates, not for beating her rapist, but for the tendency for inmates to beat charged rapists. There will inevitably be innocent people convicted of rape. This tendency will not be kind to them, if it is perpetuated. That seems to be the problem that most have with her comment and of the opinion that rape should be be used as punishment, as well.

  • [-]
  • Deepakpar
  • 1 Points
  • 21:47:19, 4 December

You can always stop reading. He/ she has every right to express her emotion here. This is a thread about sexual assault.

  • [-]
  • HillaB
  • 1 Points
  • 21:53:44, 4 December

> He/ she has every right to express her emotion here

I just... that's exactly what I was saying... Everyone has the right to express their emotions here.

  • [-]
  • KingJako
  • 1 Points
  • 22:04:45, 4 December

"As a victim of sexual assault, I'd like to personally thank you and all other inmates like you." The opening line of her initial comment. This seems fairly encouraging to me.

  • [-]
  • usingpond
  • 1 Points
  • 21:53:54, 4 December

> She hopes he gets a punishment that is equal to what he put her through.

How is this any different than encouragement?

Side note: where are you getting 'she' from? Didn't see that in any of their posts.

  • [-]
  • HillaB
  • 1 Points
  • 22:03:56, 4 December

> en·cour·age [en-kur-ij, -kuhr-] > verb (used with object), en·cour·aged, en·cour·ag·ing. > 1. > to inspire with courage, spirit, or confidence: His coach encouraged him throughout the marathon race to keep on running. > 2. > to stimulate by assistance, approval, etc. > >

I don't see her (or HIM - jesus so sorry I implied a specific gender here... it's just that there are statistically more females who are victims of sexual assault than males, but you're right, I shouldn't have assumed.) stimulating or assisting anyone in the process of harming the person who hurt her or him.

> hope [hohp]
> verb > 1. > the feeling that what is wanted can be had > 2. > to believe, desire, or trust. >

This is much more what I think OP was saying. S/he is allowed to fantasize or hope for revenge, without actually making it happen.

  • [-]
  • sosern
  • 1 Points
  • 21:56:31, 4 December

>I'd like to personally thank you and all other inmates like you.

She said that in the first comment, and I see that as pretty clearly encouraging the behaviour.

  • [-]
  • HOPSCROTCH
  • 1 Points
  • 21:55:35, 4 December

Encouraging as in endorsing to the public, not just her attacker. (I would say)

  • [-]
  • I_RAPE_CAT_RAPISTS_
  • 1 Points
  • 21:58:39, 4 December

That's encouragement.

  • [-]
  • Eskelsar
  • 1 Points
  • 21:39:55, 4 December

>not gonna let this one slide

Okay? It's not about you. You don't need to let it slide. He/she said they wouldn't attempt to justify themselves to you, so that's that.

  • [-]
  • Ergheis
  • 1 Points
  • 21:50:40, 4 December

He's an important man. He's not gonna let it slide. She's probably shaking in her boots knowing he won't let it slide.

  • [-]
  • ShadoWolf
  • 1 Points
  • 22:06:25, 4 December

I think the intent of the statement was to say they won't let statement go unchallenged due to their status of being a victim.

  • [-]
  • emordnilapaton
  • 1 Points
  • 21:50:44, 4 December

why are you trying to keep everyone from posting replies? It's their right as much as it is op's right to express her opinion...

  • [-]
  • filipino4life
  • 1 Points
  • 22:05:30, 4 December

Do you really think arguing about raping people is conducive to an intelligent discussion? It's only going to devolve into a giant shitnado of mindlessly belligerent replies.

  • [-]
  • emordnilapaton
  • 1 Points
  • 22:07:28, 4 December

I think that if there is an argument about whether or not it is ever ok to rape others. You should take a clear stance that it's not.

  • [-]
  • duffman03
  • 1 Points
  • 22:06:42, 4 December

It's obnoxious when people openly say they aren't going to agree with each other and someone tries to keep the conversation going. You must like arguing for the sake of arguing.

  • [-]
  • emordnilapaton
  • 1 Points
  • 22:10:51, 4 December

No i don't. However, i consider some statements to be of such magnitude that they can't be left unchallenged. For example, justifying rape..

  • [-]
  • VindictiveRakk
  • 1 Points
  • 22:05:08, 4 December

It's not about anyone. People are just sharing their opinions.

  • [-]
  • KingJako
  • 1 Points
  • 22:07:20, 4 December

It was about them. She said that you would have to be a victim to understand. And, as a victim that person did not understand and was simply not letting Mantarey5500 speak on behalf of all victims.

  • [-]
  • Backstyck
  • 1 Points
  • 22:03:31, 4 December

Ah, the white knight arrives! Here to defend poor damsels against the terrors of free speech and the expression thereof. You're too kind. Truly, too kind.

  • [-]
  • cuntxo
  • 1 Points
  • 21:19:27, 4 December

She was raped. She can hate if she wants to. She can also wish that the sub-human who attacked her is raped.

  • [-]
  • dezmd
  • 1 Points
  • 21:28:57, 4 December

You missed the point, advocating it out loud to others in a public forum is a lot different than wishing it in a personal or internal setting.

  • [-]
  • Hodgkins
  • 1 Points
  • 21:36:35, 4 December

Is it so wrong that he/she wishes/advocates that the person who wronged them could feel what it was like to be wronged?

  • [-]
  • mcbaginns
  • 1 Points
  • 21:55:30, 4 December

Yes, I think so. There isn't much of a difference morally from wanting someone to be raped and actually carying it out, whther yourself or through someone else. If rape is so bad (I know it is) that it's worth going to jail for years or even decades, how is it alright for you to want them to be raped?

You just sent another human being to jail for years and now you want to the VERY FUCKING SAME THING to happen to him? And it's completely alright because he did it first? Get real, it's fucking hateful vengeancce that's flowing through your heart and controlling you. Plain and simple. I don't give a shit if the OP with gold a few posts up says "oh well you don't know me" or "I respect your opinion, so respect mine" or "I don't need to explain myself to strangers". That's a fucking bullshit cop out.

TL;DR: Hypocrite OP calls her rapist "sub-human" for raping someone then wants the very same act to be commited again making her just as sub-human. But it's ok becuase he did it first.

  • [-]
  • FireAndSunshine
  • 1 Points
  • 22:13:15, 4 December

Yes. We're a civilization; we don't carry out revenge-based punishments.

  • [-]
  • quantumquixote
  • 1 Points
  • 21:38:09, 4 December

You're right. I don't know why anyone would say something like that anonymously on the internet if there were the slightest chance that someone were to find it offensive.

  • [-]
  • Letherial
  • 1 Points
  • 21:44:29, 4 December

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind...-shrug-

  • [-]
  • Letherial
  • 1 Points
  • 21:44:37, 4 December

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind...-shrug-

  • [-]
  • Nickitydd
  • 1 Points
  • 21:44:29, 4 December

Actually, the world is a hell of a lot less violent than it ever has been.

  • [-]
  • FlamingEagles
  • 1 Points
  • 21:55:24, 4 December

why is "victim" in quotations? you were or you weren't. are you mocking this person?

  • [-]
  • KenZy_4G
  • 1 Points
  • 21:59:43, 4 December

The score is still hidden, is he downvoted into the negs yet?

Sheesh. What an asshole, arguing about something so subjective such as morals.

  • [-]
  • 2unicorns1horn
  • 1 Points
  • 22:00:39, 4 December

How is she stoking the flame for the world's violent tendencies? People are going to make their own decisions, regardless of what some random person said on the internet.

And being a victim as well, you should understand that sometimes we feel really intense hatred. For ourselves, for our parents for not protecting us, for the attacker, and for the world. And that hatred is going to make us say things we'll probably regret or reconsider when we've calmed down and healed some.

Point is, encouraging or not, you can't really put that on /u/mantarey5500. People (especially in places like prison) are going to suck, regardless.

  • [-]
  • Reaperdude97
  • 1 Points
  • 22:01:15, 4 December

When you look at every story of every person, they are always the victim. A victim of circumstancce. The punishment should be dealt to perpetrators, but we should be focusing on the roots of these problems and extinguishing those rather than a futile attempt at harm to prevent repeat offense.

  • [-]
  • morpheofalus
  • 1 Points
  • 22:02:30, 4 December

ask reddit is a place to voice your opinion, why should he or she keep it in their head in a place like this

  • [-]
  • ltjboy03
  • 1 Points
  • 22:08:50, 4 December

You've reacted differently than OP has. What you've both been through is absolutely wrong and tramatic and I wish it upon no one. Not even your offenders. But I also have not been raped or molested so I don't know how I would feel if it ever happened. Just because you've been a victim doesn't give you the right to dictate how others feel or react to their offenders.

  • [-]
  • Letherial
  • 1 Points
  • 21:45:55, 4 December

Some people let their tragedies define them, or in this case blind their logic with their blind rage. -shrug-

  • [-]
  • TheIronShaft
  • 1 Points
  • 22:02:34, 4 December

That usually works out pretty well for them.