User who is passionate about fedoras is banned from SRSdiscussion for (allegedly) defending the "water resistant brimmed hat", finds a subreddit of a mod who (allegedly) banned him, takes the argument there (np.reddit.com)
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108 comments submitted at 17:52:21 on Nov 28, 2013 by stopscopiesme
Why does it seem like so many people still think of fedoras as some fancy fashion item? They sell them at Wal-Mart next to t-shirts, baseball caps, and hoodies for fuck's sake. They may have been something fancy in the 40s, but certainly not today.
In b4 "that's a trilby"
I just think mine looks good on me. No other reason to wear it other than to cover the bald spot. Though I've stopped wearing mine because of the associations.
>If you don't like everyone laughing at you because you wear a silly hat, don't wear a silly hat.
Dat victim blaming
>tips fedora
I don't think it's good that people laugh at him but if he's going to go out dressed like that he should be ready to accept the consequences.
his skirt was awfully short, and then being drunk and at that hour in a poorly lit park? what did he expect?
Are we really turning a conversation about a hat into a metaphor for rape and victim blaming? What the fuck?
What? They'd laugh at him for wearing that skirt.
In case you meant "why are we trivializing victim blaming?" I wondered that myself, but since SRS-kuzuluf did it I assumed it's the cool new SJW thing to do.
Being teased about a hat is nothing like being raped. IF you don't beleive me answer honestly, would you rather have someone laugh at your hat or rape you?
You're comparing fashion to sexual assault non ironically. You fuckin serious?
Would you prefer "if she didn't want to be called a slut, she shouldn't have worn that low cut shirt to work?"
How is wearing a low cut skirt now slutty? Am I now a man whore because my gym shorts are a little tight? For the record: no I don't think sexism and a stereotype about a fad fashion hat are even remotely the same. And the fact people keep trying to tie in a silly internet stereotype about a type of hat and gender/sexual assault seems to be a pathetic attempt to grasp straws.
But you clearly have drawn some arbitrary line where fashion choices on one side are just choices and shouldn't be considered reflective of character, and on the other side is the opposite. So, wearing a skirt doesn't warrant being called a slut, but wearing a fedora apparently warrants ridicule. So, where is that line?
> So, wearing a skirt doesn't warrant being called a slut,
>but wearing a fedora apparently warrants ridicule. So, where is that line?
How is a gendered insult with no basis whatsoever and a joke stereotype about some people that wear fedoras even remotely the same? The latter isn't even commonly held as a broad generalization. Even most people that jerk fedora hate admit they look good with a full outfit or in certain situations, just not with cargo shorts and a t shirt. Calling someone a slut over a common piece of clothing in the workplace and some internet circle jerk about a hat in some cases of it's use are not the same.
So if I wore a fedora and people made fun of me it would be my fault, but if I wore a short skirt and got made fun of, it wouldn't?
The only one talking about rape is you, I'm talking about victim blaming. IMHO just because he chose to wear a skirt doesn't mean people in that park are allowed to laugh at him.
Or are you "Dear muslima"-ing me??? Just because people might be raped in that park doesn't mean it should be OK to laugh at someone in that park. Every issue is equally important, just ask Becky Booze.
>The only one talking about rape is you, I'm talking about victim blaming.
Let's see about that.
You 39 minutes ago:
>his skirt was awfully short, and then being drunk and at that hour in a poorly lit park? what did he expect?
You're most certainly talking about sexual assault and that is what "victim blaming" pertains to in most cases of crime/assaults/sexual assaults. I get you think you're trying to satire some point of your version of victim blaming (which seems to be any sort of blame for anything, in this instance fashion, crime not included) and situations for which the term is actually meant to be used for but it's just coming across as very silly and ignorant. You're trivializing something that affects both genders because someone is making fun of a hat.
> situations for which the term is actually meant to be used
You mean some things are basically non-issues and we should concentrate on the real issues? That victim blaming is not meant to be used for when a little kid is rude on xbox live, or when someone asks you in an elevator if you'd like to have a coffee?
That seems like a good point, I think you convinced me we should only concentrate on real issues. But SRS may hate you for this.
You know life is a lot easier if you don't play mental gymnastics to make your crap satire seem valid. You think a hat stereotype is a real issue. Why should anyone listen to your metric of what's important.
"Fedoras are oppression" -SRSdiscussion
"Mocking fedoras is oppression" -
SRSSucks
"Anything fedoras is popcorn." -SRD
SRSsucks seems mostly amused that your mods think this exchange makes them look good. To anybody outside your it just looks like power tripping.
I mean the guy you're hating on here sounds like he's so far left, he probably believes all the nonsense that you want people to believe. And he's far too old to look like your favorite fedora wearing nerd stereotype.
iaman00bie does not mod SRSD
and since when do SRS mods give a shit about whether people think they're 'power tripping?'
Oh lol this is why I have so many viewers right now in a joke sub a couple friends made.
~~I'm also not the one who banned him from disco,~~ [Edit: I have been informed that I was actually the person who banned him (or at least removed his comment), I didn't actually realize that] and I don't particularly have strong opinions about fedoras. He just seems extremely overly upset and keeps word vomiting everywhere.
I don't actually know why he was originally banned, I just happened to respond to him asking him to stop spamming our modmail with giant walls of text about how we were apparently discriminating about headwear.
Screenshot to keep the butter flowin'?
Just for you bby.
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http://i.imgur.com/vKgMFiC.png
Btw, I do realize I was kinda curt with my single reply to him. He was just exceedingly annoying.
What the hell? Guy really likes his fedora.
I'm trying to decipher that wall of text but it seems he was originally banned for something related to Dan Savage and fedoras.
>A circular argument is an argument which is circular
Can't argue with The Hatman on that point.
It's funny to see so many of the same shit post circle jerkers show up in the greenduch sub. That sub is like the reddit garbage can.
i thought that was the defaults?
no man, don't you know that you can just call people you don't like 'shit post circle jerkers' and disregard anything they do?
Shit post circle jerkers are a special brand of people I don't like.
Why don't you just call them cancerjerkers? I hear that's what all the cool kids call them now.
Fak u, supergauntlet. u shitposting circlejerker
Shitposting circlejerkers aren't restricted to the defaults, though. They're everywhere, in every sub.
God how do you get that worked up about someone not liking your shitty hat?
Probably the same way you get that worked up over someone liking a shitty hat.
>20 points 2 hours ago
For this:
>Probably the same way you get that worked up over someone liking a shitty hat.
Wow. This is clearly going beyond a hat.
I'm sorry how 'worked up' did I get again?
I was using you in the general sense. Pump the breaks there chief.
Well SJWs have basically implicated fedoras as not simply being shitty fashion, but that it's something worn by shitty people. So the question is really how people get worked up about being personally called shitty.
What I find funny is that the neckbeard fedora wearing thing started on 4chan to describe SJWs.
You may say SJWs appropriated it.
Both sides use it against each other while missing the fact that both sides have these types of socially awkward losers.
It's the 2013 version of "I know you are but what am I?"
Oh yeah I know both sides use it and both sides have the socially awkward people described, I'm just saying that as far as I know 4chan was the first to really use them in the gender war thing.
>What I find funny is that the neckbeard fedora wearing thing started on 4chan to describe SJWs.
It didn't describe SJWs. Neckbeard has been around forever, the "fedora" thing was popularized by people like Notch. But yes, it was appropriated.
Actually fedoras have been associated with internet "losers/neckbeards/etc" for many years now. It's only recently that they have been appropriated by the lame "gender war" (let's be honest in the real scheme of things the interment "gender war" is mostly young people yelling at each other about things they don't understand on either front.)
Which is completely absurd, because let's get real...who's likelier to wear a fedora: a male feminist, or anyone else?
How many fedoras do you own
Enough to tip euphorically at all the good sirs that I pwn with my impeccable logic and wordsmithery.
ie. a multitudinous multitude.
No he got worked up about his ban from SRSD.
He seems to think that SRS and SRSD are the greatest shit since the invention of the wheel, he's old school far-left - at least mid 40s.
The fedora-hate on SRS is just a weird fad that he didn't know about, he sounds pretty naive regarding internet SJWs, hell he actually seemed to believe you guys had good intentions!
That makes this whole mess funnier to me. This guy is probably fairly open to their ideas but they alienate him over a fucking hat.
They're circle jerking so hard they're giving themselves blisters.
I actually like fedoras...
They'd probably look horrible on me since i have long hair, but when it's done right, they can look fucking awesome. Just look at the 1940's.
I agree, they can look fine if your name is Don Draper or you lead a jazz band. Otherwise, its lost its zing because sooo many people were them as a shortcut to look nice and neat or to be pretentious.
The number of people who can pull it off is tiny however, way too many people wear them thinking they look like they're in the 40's but in fact look terrible, hence the jokes.
You need a certain something to wear it. I don't mean handsome, neccesarily.
For example, this person isn't what you'd call handsome, but he pulls off the hat perfectly.
Same goes for this guy.
It just works on some people.
Yeah because they're wearing old classic suits. Not a pair of jeans, a shirt with a dragon on it and a leather long coat.
a suit
sepia photography
a lack of pre-existing desire to find reasons to insult them because of disliking their internet opinions
Also, short trimmed hair.
I also think the age helps them. I think it would look worse on someone who looked younger, even with a suit.
From my experience, they only work on people that are clean cut and well dressed and in approptiate settings. So, no beards, t-shirts, jeans. And not at a bar (double for any with a TV playing sports). Lounges are cool.
Also, straw fedoras are limited to summer concerts and Miami.
This is just me. When they work, they're awesome. But that is rare in my experience.
I find they work well when you have a helicopter to go with it.
Yeah, but SRS-style SJWs aren't engaging in a side of fashion-policing here. The jokes come from stereotypes about those who wear them. Witness how these same people flip out over people making fun of names like "Shaniqua" if you want to see the hypocrisy in full light.
Because a silly joke stereotype about a type of web user and a hat is the same as making fun of a type of name from a specific culture/race right (which when not in a joking realm often turns to just plain racism)? What is it with the false equivalencies today?
Fedoras are most-certainly being associated with a specific culture/race when they're getting made fun of.
>Fedoras are most-certainly being associated with a specific culture/race when they're getting made fun of.
What the fuck? Is this April fools? I'm tagging this, too good to be true. Fedora hate is now racism and a cultural issue. Just when I thought internet brogressivism could't get any better this appears. Your comment could come straight outta r/circlejerk. In fact I think I'll start posting it there.
lol please do. I look forward to seeing the discussion on that one. Cause I'm totally claiming that fedora-shaming is the #1 social justice issue of our time. Have fun explaining how fedora-shaming isn't totally associated with white male nerds.
The only people I've ever seen actually wear fedoras were those kids in high school who just made sure you know they owned and wore a fedora. Especially if it had a skull and crossbones over a fractal design on it that you bought for 15 dollars.
People actually get discriminated against IRL for having 'black' names though.
I don't think Fedora Shaming will ever be A Thing, put it in the drawer next to Creep Shaming and forget about it.
I don't think it'll ever be A Thing, because it's so niche ("creep-shaming", less so.) But it's still a blatent form of hypocrisy.
The discrimination you point out is not discrimination based on names per se but names used as a proxy for race (one would assume... it's really more of a SES/race interaction.) Likewise fedoras proxy for a neckbeard stereotype which undoubtedly faces discrimination against in a lot of social contexts.
If the argument really just boils down to "well it's not as bad"... well, so what?
Man, srssucks is pretty mad about all this
>"fedora-wearing" Because it's perfectly alright to assume stereotypes and spread negative prejudices about people, so long as they're (presumably) white cis-males trying to have an intelligent discussion.
About defending fedoras. Top lel.
/r/whataboutSRSsucks
Considering how often SRSS does it to SRS...
Oh god the irony.
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I brought it up because of how SRS is the first to complain about people bringing them up always linking /r/whataboutsrs
So I found your actions ironic.
\>mfw this dude doesn't even see the irony of his own post
Nice 9gag joke arrows, you must be a gentleman and a sir.
But anyways I'm not surprised how you're having a hard time understanding. I didn't link that sub seriously I was making fun of the idiots who link /r/whataboutsrs.
\>mfw a SRSS dude thinks he understands irony
\>mfw the entire SRSS sub exists because they don't understand irony
So you don't like when people link to one, but think it's so hilarious to link to the one you made up? You really are sounding like someone who doesn't understand irony.
You really couldn't miss the point any more.
No, I get it. You're special, but those other people that jokingly link to whataboutx? They're literally "idiots" in comparison to your genius. I'm in awe of you.
Still missing it. But keep on with that strawman.
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>This subreddit is private
Always a sign of some good drama
Right, since this is apparently a text-based hat simulator, let me pose this question:
Where does the Social Justice™ crowd stand on a sixpence?