What if the USSR gave Palestine support during the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? (self.HistoricalWhatIf)

HistoricalWhatIf

22 ups - 3 downs = 19 votes

16 comments submitted at 16:58:15 on Nov 26, 2013 by dudewiththebling

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  • VectorTest
  • -16 Points
  • 17:13:21, 26 November

If it would have gotten them access to Afghanistan's poppy fields, you can bet your ass they'd have done it.

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  • Von_Baron
  • 11 Points
  • 17:57:28, 26 November

How does helping Palestine, get them access to Afghanistans poppies?

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  • VectorTest
  • -16 Points
  • 18:01:14, 26 November

Ask the Americans. It worked wonders for them.

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  • Von_Baron
  • 10 Points
  • 18:51:10, 26 November

So are you saying the US supported Israel to acquire Afghan opium?

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  • VectorTest
  • -11 Points
  • 18:54:02, 26 November

The Americans are in the middle east for two very lucrative things, and nothing else.

Oil and Opium.

This is no secret to anyone who has been paying attention.

Russia went after the Opium directly. They made a tactical error and paid dearly for it.

America learned from that mistake and capitalized on it.

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  • Von_Baron
  • 11 Points
  • 19:28:35, 26 November

I see where you are coming from now. I dont agree though.

First of all Russia has oil, quite a large amount in Siberia. Also opium production wasn't that common in Afghanistan when they went in. The Soviet tactics was to secure the cities, and depopulate the countryside. This had two effects there was widespread lack of people to work the fields, and due to no crop rotation little would grow accept opium. Opium production did not really kick in to the chaos caused after they left and civil war broke out.

Yes the US wants oil but supporting Israel is the wrong way to go about it. Israel has no oil. But most of the states that do have oil do not recognise Israel. It would have been much more useful for the US to support the Gulf states with oil, against Israel. Oh yes Afghanistan is not in the middle east. Conditions in the middle east are bad opium poppies.

Also why does anyone invade for opium? It can be grown in places like France and central Europe, so if the US really wanted some they could grow it themselves.

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  • VectorTest
  • -8 Points
  • 19:57:36, 26 November

US interests in the middle east are not, nor have they ever been about Israel.

Israel is the excuse, or red herring, that keeps the average American christian on board with being there.

The Oil is needed to prop up the petro-dollar and the Opium would never be tolerated openly by the American public, so it is left to the CIA to take care of the Opium business and profit making under their own cloak of secret black-bag operations.

Oil and Opium is all it has ever been about.

You'll see that when the petro-dollar falls.

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  • PC-815
  • 2 Points
  • 21:31:12, 26 November

> it is left to the CIA to take care of the Opium business and profit making under their own cloak of secret black-bag operations.

Any decent evidence of this? I mean evidence that isn't just the CIA looking the other way when their local allies are making money from drugs or crazy conspiracies.

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  • TacoTRD
  • 2 Points
  • 19:04:42, 26 November

Good sir, of what country do you hail from?

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  • VectorTest
  • -12 Points
  • 19:47:26, 26 November

I am a sovereign of the planet. I am not a slave or property of any government corporation.

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  • Boneclinks
  • 11 Points
  • 20:46:59, 26 November

Black fedora neck beard planet.

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  • DatRagnar
  • 13 Points
  • 20:07:05, 26 November

This is so cringy, it hurts my liver

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  • TacoTRD
  • 4 Points
  • 20:07:27, 26 November

So... British?

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  • NikolaiVonToffel
  • 1 Points
  • 22:52:59, 26 November

No, Tumblr

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  • Bearded_Gentleman
  • 1 Points
  • 23:28:49, 26 November

This explains much.