Saw an old guy standing at the red light in the rain (qkme.me)

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165 comments submitted at 21:06:01 on Feb 23, 2013 by electrocuted

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  • Rawmin
  • -2 Points
  • 00:53:28, 24 February

Which makes their boss a jerk, which was the point.

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  • greasyhands
  • 12 Points
  • 01:02:21, 24 February

The sign holder's boss is a 3rd party advertising company, and the owner of the store whose advertisement is on the board probably has no idea what is going on. That's actually what the point is.

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  • Rawmin
  • -2 Points
  • 01:22:44, 24 February

Okay, but someone made that job, and doesn't care if the employee of said job has to wallow around in the rain. As I said before, I could pay someone desperate enough to roll around in my own shit for minimum wage. That would make me a bad person.

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  • greasyhands
  • 3 Points
  • 01:27:27, 24 February

The stupid ass bear meme is about not shopping at a store because they are abusing signholders, but the store likely has no idea what is going on. c'mon man

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  • Rawmin
  • -2 Points
  • 01:32:21, 24 February

Right. And I wasn't responding to the bear meme. I was responding to the claim that because because a third party is the one hiring someone to stand out in the rain, that makes it okay to create such a job.

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  • greasyhands
  • 2 Points
  • 01:35:38, 24 February

No one claimed that, they just pointed out that holding the shop holder responsible is probably not fair. Jeeeeeeesus you are dense

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  • Rawmin
  • -2 Points
  • 01:42:05, 24 February

> A lot of sign-wavers aren't paid by the store they're advertising for, so the choice they have is "work in the rain" or "not get paid."

That, in so many words, says that it is not the shop owner paying the sign-holder, but a third-party. It implies that this is then "okay", because the shop holder isn't responsible. I was pointing out that this just makes the shop owner no longer the sign holders boss, but rather the third party becomes the sign holders boss.

But sure, I'm the dense one.

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  • greasyhands
  • 1 Points
  • 01:43:47, 24 February

How does not holding the wrong person responsible imply that the person who is actually responsible is not an asshole? What is wrong with you?

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  • Rawmin
  • -1 Points
  • 01:48:14, 24 February

God you're hopeless. I can't talk in circles with you anymore, you're making me dizzy. I have enough rational people arguing with me about this, I don't need someone with no reading comprehension skills resorting to ad hominem to try and show me why I'm wrong.

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  • im-a-venomous-spider
  • 9 Points
  • 01:04:00, 24 February

What part of:

A lot of sign-wavers aren't paid by the store they're advertising for

don't you understand?

Alot of staffing & labor agencies make those positions available... Given, I agree it does suck to work in the rain. But as "safeNsane" stated above:

the choice they have is "work in the rain" or "not get paid."

Some people don't have the luxury of family, friends,or the government to fall back on. Some people have to make money anyway they can. I know it's hard for some of you redditor's still living with mommy and daddy to realize, but shits tight out here right now. There are people with degrees trying to eat...and for someone with no education, they have to get paid by any means.

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  • Rawmin
  • 4 Points
  • 01:19:04, 24 February

What don't you understand? I could pay someone desperate enough to literally roll around in my shit for minimum wage. That would make me a bad person.

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  • penkap1
  • 1 Points
  • 01:26:16, 24 February

Excellent analogy. No hyperbole or anything.

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  • Rawmin
  • -1 Points
  • 01:29:53, 24 February

Of course it's hyperbolic, I'm making a point. A point which I'm sure you get, and if your only retort is that it's hyperbolic, one that you aren't disagreeing with at all. Tell me how paying someone minimum wage, whether or not you are a third party, to stand out in the rain is not a mean thing to do?

Yes, I get that there are people desperate enough to work in those conditions. Is exploiting that fact something that's invariably going to happen? Of course. Does that make it a good thing to do?

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  • penkap1
  • 1 Points
  • 01:34:30, 24 February

>Tell me how paying someone minimum wage, whether or not you are a third party, to stand out in the rain is not a mean thing to do?

Because it's a job? In what fantasy world do you live in where giving someone a job is 'mean' just because one might get a little wet?

Exploitation? Dude, kids working in a coal mine for a dollar a day and then being forced to pay that dollar for housing to the company store is exploitation. Shipping orphans from China to be prostitutes in Europe is exploitation. Giving someone a job to stand with a sign, which they are free to take or leave, is not exploitation.

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  • Rawmin
  • 2 Points
  • 01:39:06, 24 February

I didn't say it was "exploitation" in the grandest sense of the term. I said that whoever is creating the job is exploiting the fact that they know someone will do it. It's not like they aren't exploiting that fact, in the same way that someone who can juggle well can exploit that fact to make money as a street performer.

You'll notice I said that their boss is a jerk. Show me where I said they were evil. Telling someone that you know won't say no that you'll pay them to stand out in the rain is kinda a jerk-ish thing to do.

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  • IMasturbateToMyself
  • 0 Points
  • 01:38:59, 24 February

Guys, get the popcorn. Shit is about to get down.

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  • VentureIndustries
  • 1 Points
  • 01:24:02, 24 February

Thank you for this, I think its a great reminder for all of us who take our relatively easy lives for granted. That said, would you advise any of us who are still in college to [stay] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTN5NHfwlQ) until things get better and more companies are willing to hire grads?

example: take graduating from college seriously, and try as much as you can to get "real world" job experience, as an intern or otherwise, so a job is lined up before leaving.

Thanks again

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  • penkap1
  • 1 Points
  • 01:25:24, 24 February

Such a jerk giving a guy a job and then not controlling the weather!