/r/videos has turned into an all out brawl between feminists and mensrighters over the video of a fight between a man and woman. Drama everywhere, sort by controversial. The up/down count on the linked comment is intense. (np.reddit.com)
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158 ups - 50 downs = 108 votes
249 comments submitted at 00:37:32 on Nov 4, 2013 by Erra0
i don't think it's accurate to call all of them that. MRA's would be insisting that the women get kicked while she's down. You gotta grade on a curve here. It's a spectrum, not a binary switch
I would insist this? I would insist she goes to jail for instigating a fight not kicking her. I would say nost MRAs want to be able to defend themselves legally, not become agressors themselves. What do you think MRAs are?
> What do you think MRAs are?
Literally Hitler.
It's the bullshit stigma both fems and mras throw at each other. It just seems that everyone approaching the topic rationally is called a mra in the most derogatory fashion. I saw the thread a few hours before it showed up here. There was no mention of misandry and the like, but everyone suggesting the guy should be able to defend himself was throw into the same group as the idiotic comments at the bottom of the thread that were filled with slurs.
I honestly don't know what to think of MRAs. I only found the sub because some guy was sending me messages after stalking my posts to find out my gender. I looked at his history and it consisted mostly of hateful comments posted in mensrights. He's not active anymore but that was my first experience and obviously it wasn't a good one.
Since then I've stumbled into the sub a handful of times. I have two nephews that are living in poverty and have an abusive family. I'm constantly frustrated by the lack of resources that are race/gender neutral and have been searching for a place to vent, discuss the issues and solutions. I feel like every time I go into MRA I find a lot of hate.
Look at the front page right now-
This self post- 'Looking at men in government and saying they have all the power is like looking at women in grocery stores and saying they have all the food.'
A video on 'female supremacy'
The video from this thread.
A self post saying that women who dress a certain should expect male interaction.
It's like the subs goal is to convince people that women are the enemy and belittle the issues that they face. When I talk about issues related to my own gender I don't start off by arguing why 'men don't have it so bad'. I state the issue, what might cause it and possible solutions.
That's not to say that I don't also see great discussions there, it's just hard to get past the hate. It's same reason I could never go to a feminist subreddit that is hateful towards men. Sure, I'm female, but I have a husband, nephews and many male friends and I won't be apart of a group that dismisses their issues or belittles them as humans.
Hey, you're that chick from the Jurassic Park jeep witch hunt thing. How did that whole thing work out anyway?
So anyway, yeah online communities kind of tend to be somewhat extreme. MRAs hating women and foaming at the mouth jerking each other off in threads about a deadbeat mother losing custody of her children to their estranged father. Feminists who overexaggerate the misogyny and sexism they find in attempts to justify their position. LGBTWhateverelse activists who.. well.. are just out of touch with reality.
To identify as a member of any specific group does not burden you with the description of any other members of said group. Men's Rights activists can be level headed people with a modest concern for the fair and equal treatment of men in situations where they are unable to fend for themselves. Feminists can be like-minded and grounded individuals, interested in promoting the equal balance between men and women and less focused on discrimination based on gender.
It really depends on how you yourself decide to approach the subject.
Uh. I don't even know who would down vote a moderate stance.
I bet that within one page, I can find multiple examples on every gendered sub on reddit.
Be glad you don't have these people around you IRL. They are fucking crazy.
Oh, I have seen many at my university. I studied math, and soon after I decided to also pursue an English degree. The number of SJWs blew my mind.
Yeah, I've been out of Uni long enough to no longer regard it as relevant to anything in the real world. Students gonna whine.
I cannot wait.
It's interesting, all the times I've gone to r/mensrights it's been kind of like a mirrorworld feminist website, where, inbetween lots of actual interesting stuff, there are loads and loads of posts about; bad stuff gender a does, no bad stuff that gender b does (unless it is to gender b also), how and in what respects gender a has it worse and how/why this should be taken as an axiom and how generally the grass is always geeener on the other gender's side.
The extremists on both sides balance themselves out in the long run. We just have to wait.
Hmm....interesting position. I see your point but I don't see men or women posting about things that effect them specifically as "belittling" anyone else. I can see that you view some of those things as attacking women's issues but they seem more focused on changing the style of discourse on gender studies. I'm not denying hatred in the MRA toward women, look through my comments, I've called them out but there is still good commentary, especially now, going on. Earlier today there was a post calling out a Facebook MRA group for saying "women didn't build" so it definitely isn't one way or the other
i'm talking about the shitty MRAs, not the ones with critical thinking ability. MRA is an insult, used against people who think exactly the way I described. if you haven't seen any, you must not have been on reddit very long
Shitty MRAs should be called such. It would be like me saying that "feminists would want the man to get castrated. But hey, I'm just taking about radfems." But hey, I'm not really arguing with you, I was just confused
There seems to be a much higher concentration of extremists on the MRA's side though. Any movement that predominantly exists on the Internet seems to have this problem.
No. Evidently, you associated the obviously misogynistic comments from the bottom of the thread with the folks suggesting equality in the heated comments. You're doing the same thing extremist mras are. Think about it.
> MRA's would be insisting that the women get kicked while she's down.
To show you how out of touch you are, here is the actual MR thread on the video:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1pu4uh/womanassaultsmanmanfightsbackxpost_from/
Ok. I don't get this "poisoning the well" attitude that is so prevalent regarding MRA. Aren't MRA like any other rights group? There are many radical "tumblr" feminists that bring shame to the feminism in general. Is it okay to say all feminists are crazy because of them?