Claims of censorship after a new snowden document "Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations' of activists" Deletions in both /r/news and /r/worldnews (np.reddit.com)
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104 comments submitted at 22:38:39 on Feb 25, 2014 by 75000_Tokkul
If people had even modicum of foresight present which would allow them to read our ruleset before submitting, they'd realize that analysis isn't allowed in /r/news - which is why, despite constant submission and cries of censorship, the Firstlook article keeps getting removed.
/r/worldnews, more like /r/WORLDJEWS!!!
rekt
sg sux
We managed to go an hour without mentioning how much supergauntlet sucks!
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Yeah it must suck being called a shill all the time, especially now for a rather dumb reason. Are the mailboxes flooded with complaints of being a shill?
I'd imagine that eventually it just becomes white noise. Bipolar has been accused of shilling for everything under, over, and to the side of the sun.
"Shill" is the new Godwin's Law.
We all know what you're up to dude. I'm sicking of hearing your excuses.
At first I thought this was good old fashioned SRD tongue-in-cheek, then...
>You're completely wrong, the mods of /r/news deleted my post because is was an "analysis". They deleted it because it provided context.
Uh oh, someone's butt hurts from having his thread removed :(
Seems like that post broke rule 2. Before I get called a shill, I support Greenwald, Snowden, et al.
No this is about the long term attempt to censor all sorts of different content. Ask him about the huge list of banned domains in /r/news that uses aren't allowed to see and they haven't willingly told anyone about.
If you submit a link to a banned domain you are told nothing the link just doesn't show up in the feed or moderation log.
Oh, I didn't know this. I would like to know the mods' response to this.
We do indeed run a filter list of domains. They are categorized in a few ways, and every single domain listed violates one/all of our stated rules in some regard:
Opinion/Analysis. This section includes domains such as Alternet, DemandProgress, and OpposingViews - basically any domain which predominantly purports misleading or analytic content, or opinionated content (such as op-eds), or content which intends to promote one cause over another. /r/news is for strictly factual news reporting, and as such opinion posts and analysis posts are removed.
Not news. This section includes domains such as change.org, facebook.com and kickstarter.com. While these may be mostly self-evident, the section is added to filter out any non-news stories, something which to an extent goes hand in hand with our limitation on opinion and advocacy posts as described above.
Satire. The reasoning behind the filtering of these domains is pretty self-evident.
Unreliable source. Basically any source which has proven to be highly unreliable or misleading. Included are a few conspiracy domains, as well as any other unreliable outlet - like self-reporting services or personal blogs.
Rebloggers. Basically any domain which engages heavily/solely in the copying and pasting of other journalists' work in an attempt to pass it off as their own.
Spam. Almost entirely consisting of domains which are submitted by the spammers which you'll sometimes see plaguing the 'new' queue at night in the United States, with titles like "bus service Delhi" or "best SEO marketing".
Oh and does anyone want to actually see some of what's on that list?
https://web.archive.org/web/20130831135727/http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/18jgbj/hirnewshowareyouwearepreparingalistof/
I have to use web archive because they've completely deleted the thread and every comment in it. Proof.
/u/BipolarBear0 is never genuine.
If I was a mod I'd remove most of those domains on-sight anyway.
Seems like a pretty legitimate list.
If that's the list, it looks pretty reasonable. And pretty similar to what he said it was.
That sounds like Nazi talk to me. How would you like to be a mod of /r/news?
It would be interesting to see the final blacklist, some of those included sites don't deserve to be on it.
Oh, ok seems reasonable.
How dare you give a reasoned response that explains your policies, you freedom-hating NSA employee shill Monsanto scum?! There's no possible reason to remove posts that are breaking the rules listed in the sidebar! CENSORSHIIIIP
> every single domain listed violates one/all of our stated rules in some regard:
This is a nonsensical argument, since rules apply to an individual POST. So if a post breaks a rule fine, but to blanket ban a domain is total censorship.
Maybe you can make /r/newsrebootedrebooted.
He was also the one to screw up the entire restore the fourth movement. You could ask him about that too.
Okay.
Hey Bipolarbear, why did you "screw up the entire restore the fourth movement"?
I didn't. I'm actually not sure how that line evolved, but I'd imagine it happened in a manner similar to the game of Telephone. RT4 is still going strong.
Okay.
>FREEDOM IS FOR BITCHES
>-/u/Bipolarbear0
Oh man I thought your previous post s satire. But you're actually just a complete moron eh.
It's true. I, the humble founder of a civil liberties organization dedicated to stopping the unwarranted invasion of privacy by the NSA, have a vested interest in preventing further leaks by Snowden. It all makes sense now.
> I, the humble founder of a civil liberties organization dedicated to stopping the unwarranted invasion of privacy by the NSA
And then you were the one to fuck it up!!!!
Not really. It wasn't ever fucked up, it's still going strong.
Do you have your own person downvote brigade or some shit?
Looks like I do, yeah. This thread is getting brigaded from /r/worldnews right now (thanks, meta_bot) but I also seem to have a small but dedicated army of downvoters for the rest of my comments and posts.
Which organization is that?
Restore the Fourth.
That actually make perfect sense. But is "restore the fourth" really an organization? It seems as much one as Occupy Wall Street was.
Yeah. Well, it initially started as a social movement, but later evolved into a structured organization. Even in our initial stages we were far more structured than OWS was.
Thanks for shadowbanning me,
for those wondering I have been documenting my discussions with Bipolarbear0 and other r/news mods here
It's pretty blatant and sad how much they try to justify censorship of legitimate news.
I'm looking at our shadowbanned users list, you're not on it.
Well, either you missed my name or you're trying to misinform me.
I posted a test reply below this comment on r/news, I cannot see this comment when logged out.
Additionally, any articles I attempt to post do not appear on new on r/news, and no one has responded to my question as to why these posts do not appear that I sent to the mods of that subreddit.
Automoderator has certain conditions which remove non-contributive comments. Your comment 'test' was removed automatically because it's one word long, and because it's under a certain character threshold. Other conditions include usage of bolding and capital letters as a percentage of the overall comment - since those generally tend be detrimental to discussion.
Your posts keep getting removed because they keep violating our posting rules. Although to be fair, I only see two in recent history. There's the aforementioned Firstlook article, which is analysis, and then there's an article from Examiner - which is autoremoved because they typically engage heavily in blogspam.
Added to his lifelong list of failed tests.
Well, it's an article that's not analysis on the GCHQ slides. It should be reinstated.
You are correct, I've approved it.
It appears to have disappeared again, do you have a bot clearing these?
I see "user not found" when I click your username.
Same.
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He got shadowbanned for begging for upvotes over in that undelete sub, lel
Thank you