/r/TumblrInAction was threatened to take down copyrighted content by an otherkin website. (np.reddit.com)

SubredditDrama

208 ups - 84 downs = 124 votes

232 comments submitted at 16:37:57 on Feb 24, 2014 by david-me

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  • ky1e
  • -12 Points
  • 16:51:42, 24 February

Took me an embarrassingly long time to realize who he was.

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  • airmandan
  • 15 Points
  • 16:58:06, 24 February

You really just cannot resist sticking your dick up in other mods' business, can you?

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  • ky1e
  • -13 Points
  • 16:59:11, 24 February

I guess not, no.

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  • ky1e
  • -16 Points
  • 17:08:49, 24 February

Looks like our mutual friend /u/allthefoxes shares my opinion.

Np.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1ysefk/wearebeingthreatenedbytheotherkin_forum/cfne7y7

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  • allthefoxes
  • 25 Points
  • 18:39:09, 24 February

y u do dis to me.

I do think, persoanally, that if they want their content removed, it should be.

But, its not my subreddit, and im not EFS. If he wants to leave it up, thats his call. I may not agree with it, but oh well.

If he wants to make a post calling them out on it too, then Oh Well to that too. If I were him, I would've done things differently. But I'm not him, and I'll respect his choices.

Now, if you'll excuse me..

munches popcorn

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  • ky1e
  • 9 Points
  • 18:39:50, 24 February

I should take a few pages out of your book, specifically the part about being quiet.

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  • dan92
  • 15 Points
  • 17:45:48, 24 February

I don't know who that is, but if you're bragging that he agrees with you you should notice that he immediately changed his mind after he heard EFS's opinion.

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  • ky1e
  • -11 Points
  • 17:46:39, 24 February

That's an inside joke between me and the other guy from a long time ago.

Foxes didn't argue as much as I did, you are right.

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  • dan92
  • 7 Points
  • 17:58:27, 24 February

While I've got you here, I noticed you had a problem with him releasing modmail. Why is that? I can't think of anything in Reddit's rules that say you're not allowed to, which to me means that there's no expectation of privacy.

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  • Yiin
  • 3 Points
  • 20:57:20, 24 February

Yeah, there's really no rule about it, but it's something you're just not supposed to do.

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  • dan92
  • 4 Points
  • 21:04:57, 24 February

Oh, thanks. I was wondering if it was part of moddiquette but I couldn't find it for some reason.

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  • ky1e
  • 0 Points
  • 18:06:24, 24 February

Because he said that it was up to people posting stuff to keep stuff private by using pms and email. That's from our argument here in SRD. I thought it was hypocritical of him to say that if he posted a pm in a sticky post.

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  • dan92
  • 3 Points
  • 18:14:56, 24 February

I see your point, though I still think there's a difference between modmail and a pm. A pm has the expectation of privacy because it has "private" right in the name. Modmail doesn't, and for that matter neither does email, so if anything I would say that he's wrong in thinking that emails are inherently private. It's all sort of one big grey area, which is why I don't think this argument really has a right and a wrong side, and why I think it's pointless to try to enforce your own morality within that grey.

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  • ky1e
  • 4 Points
  • 18:17:51, 24 February

I'm not trying to enforce anything, I am saying what I think is horrible moderation policy.

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  • RobotXIII
  • 0 Points
  • 20:54:08, 24 February

Well luckily you're free to not browse TiA.

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  • fb95dd7063
  • -11 Points
  • 17:33:46, 24 February

EFS is actually a decent poster, despite modding subs which contain quite a few terrible posters.

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  • ky1e
  • -4 Points
  • 17:36:30, 24 February

I can tell he cares a lot about content. But making a sticky post like that calling out a small private forum is one thing I think no good mod should ever do. It's using your subreddit as an army.

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  • fb95dd7063
  • -13 Points
  • 17:42:43, 24 February

Eh, I give them a pass on this, tbh. He removed the offending content, but there is no reason to expect mods to enforce banning links to a site at the request of a site owner. Don't get me wrong, I think that TiA users are about 50% OK, and 50% aggressively awful. I think that TiA is generally full of tired "privilege checking" jokes, but I think EFS acted as respectfully as one could expect in this situation.

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  • ky1e
  • -6 Points
  • 17:45:18, 24 February

I don't think they did, if they leaked modmail and called so much attention to such a small thing. The original post there was not successful, and they made a stickied post about it.

TiA is essentially ruining that small community if they are exposing it so much.

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  • EvilFuckingSociopath
  • 12 Points
  • 18:04:43, 24 February

Streisand effect.

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  • ky1e
  • -8 Points
  • 18:06:50, 24 February

What? Bullshit. You made a fucking sticky post.

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  • EvilFuckingSociopath
  • 11 Points
  • 18:07:21, 24 February

Yes I did. Because it's funny.

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  • ky1e
  • -9 Points
  • 18:09:25, 24 February

Then we're right back to saying that you have no moral compass and are disrespecting a whole community for cheap laughs. And, to add, you were being wholly hypocritical.

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  • EvilFuckingSociopath
  • 4 Points
  • 18:13:29, 24 February

Well then I'm right back to saying you're judging me as a person based on meaningless internet drama. You have no idea how much of a moral compass I have.

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  • DBCrumpets
  • 3 Points
  • 23:53:42, 24 February

No, it's a pretty good description of the Streisand effect. The moderators of that forum tried to get him to take down a post with less than ten upvotes with some bullshit legal claim, which then resulted in EFS making it vastly more popular. It's a fairly good example of it.

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  • ky1e
  • -2 Points
  • 00:01:04, 25 February

It's a manufactured Streisand Effect.

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  • DBCrumpets
  • 2 Points
  • 01:25:14, 25 February

Yeah all of them are, I don't see your point.

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  • fb95dd7063
  • -7 Points
  • 18:53:35, 24 February

what the fuck is up with the votes here today? Both sides of our conversation are downvoted and you're sitting at +5? The hell is going on?

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  • EvilFuckingSociopath
  • 4 Points
  • 18:58:42, 24 February

My username is recognised here, that's pretty much all there is to it.

Also I say flippant funny things. That tends to get more upvotes than tedious arguments.

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  • fb95dd7063
  • -6 Points
  • 19:18:38, 24 February

your cheerleaders are upset that people are having a discussion :-\

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  • EvilFuckingSociopath
  • 1 Points
  • 19:21:17, 24 February

Why are you assuming the people upvoting me are the same people downvoting you?

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