What am I supposed to make of the thousands of 'happy' couples out there? (self.TheRedPill)

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So after a big burn I've picked myself up and swallowed the Red Pill. Everything I've read so far I can find examples of in my life and previous relationships which I have consistently been poor at maintaining owing to blue pill habits.

Then I come across some old friend on facebook who has a hot girlfriend and they've been together 2 years or I see couples in the street or whatever. What is the general concensus here, a lot of focus is placed on relationships which turn sour - divorce rape and so on - but what about the ones which last?

Am I to assume that all women in these relationships are either cheating, waiting to cheat or that the guy is sufficiently in control of the relationship for it to satisfy hypergamy indefinitely? This is the only issue I've so far found in Red Pill theory, that there are relationships in which the man doesn't get fucked over and from knowing some of these people I find it really hard to believe they're constantly gaming their gf/wife.

14 comments submitted at 16:06:36 on Sep 22, 2013 by Spindro

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  • thebears1986
  • 13 Points
  • 16:21:10, 22 September

Happy couples exist. But you can't discount that the "happy" couples you see might not be happy. Many people put on a happy exterior to hide the truth.

Two friends of mine look like a "happy" couple from every outward appearance. They married 18 months ago and have had 0 sexual contact in the last 12 months.

An ex-gf of mine loved how "happy" my friends Shawn and Michelle were and wondered why we couldn't be like that. In reality Michelle was extremely volatile and outside of public situations their relationship was horrible.

Happy couples happen. We just provide full disclosure and don't pretend all relationships are wonderful.

Edit: Just thought of this. Given that about 50% of marriages end in divorce, it isn't unreasonable to infer that at least 50% of regular relationships are similarly unhappy. In reality that figure is much higher. What percentage of relationships lead to marriage? It's low. Unhappiness creeps in and suddenly a couple breaks up and outside of the innermost circle everyone says, "What happened? You were a great couple." The "happy" couples you see either aren't actually happy or that happiness will be ending not too far into the future.

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  • autoNFA
  • 6 Points
  • 18:51:24, 22 September

The 50% figure is misleading - since it includes marriages after the first, the figure is increased by people with poor decision making who marry and divorce many times. The rate of people who divorce (not marriages that end in divorce) is lower.

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  • TheGoodBro
  • 1 Points
  • 18:04:37, 22 September

Pretty much this. People don't want others to see them miserable or unhappy with their situation. Some will cry poor me and seek attention but in general I think most people want to convey an image of control, happiness and success.

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  • anon_k
  • 6 Points
  • 18:21:37, 22 September

Actually I like to think of my parents as a happy couple and my guide to a Red Pill life. They met each other in grad school and according to my mom she was attracted to "his masculinity and brutish good looks." My mom has always but as a stay at home programmer. She also takes care of the all the chores and cooking, because "that's the wife's job." My mom has always been the one to nurture me and my dad was the one who guided me in life. My parents rarely have any arguments, and my dad's position is always respected. My parents relationship is definitely what I hold as my Red Pill standard.

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  • TheHumbleRandomer
  • 3 Points
  • 16:36:15, 22 September

The guy is happy because things are going just the way he wants!

The girl is happy because things are starting to head in the direction she wants!

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  • Clauderoughly
  • 3 Points
  • 17:05:14, 22 September

Sometimes couple fall into a traditional relationships.

Some women never drank the Feminist Koolaid and have retained the femininity.

They are out there.

I married one, and I was at a party last night which had a high proportion of

  • Japanese women
  • Indian women
  • Chinese women

There was one point in in the evening where they had a 30 min bitch session amongst themselves about how much feminists sucked.

So yeah, they are out there you just need to seek them out.

Give up on US white women completely, and US black women for that matter as well.

Look to meet Eastern EU and East Asian, and central Asian women

That's still your best hope. It'll still be a crapshoot, but your odds are a lot better.

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  • vengefully_yours
  • 1 Points
  • 18:13:30, 22 September

Had a happy relationship for 9 years. We went through all sorts of hardships together, fit very well in all areas, and she left for a desperate but arrogant omega that used high school level PUA lines on her. She is naive and inexperienced, so she bolted when I got laid up last year.

For all intents and purposes we were happy until she started talking to the kid, who is 7 years younger than her and utterly loathed by everyone he knows.... other than her, but that will change in time because he cant give her what she needs. She needs the alpha mentality, the leader, the man who handles shit because he can. She is post wall and has fucked herself over, it happens, and life doesnt teach you important lessons by it being easy.

No matter how well you get alone, how much she adores you, it only takes an impulse of hers to fuck things up. No matter how alpha you are, eventually she will fuck someone she perceives as higher than you. In my life, it has only ever been their perception, not reality.

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  • bigjeffrey
  • 2 Points
  • 18:56:47, 22 September

What did you do to make her leave you?

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  • vengefully_yours
  • 1 Points
  • 19:23:14, 22 September

I got sick. She wanted to use me to pay for everything while she spent all her time fucking this kid. So I kicked her ass out. Since then I have become not sick, its a temporary thing, yet she still went stupid because women only think "in the now" not about what will happen if they do this or that.

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  • FakeAlsoFake
  • 2 Points
  • 18:32:24, 22 September

Yes there are happy couples out there, I'm not sure if there's a number of happy vs unhappy, but just by divorce statistics alone I would wager at least 75% of couples are unhappy. The odds are stacked against you here in the U.S. go somewhere where a man can be a man and a woman is happy to be a woman, you just might have a chance.

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  • delta_hedge
  • 5 Points
  • 16:16:30, 22 September

wait till they have married. that's when things change.

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  • I-skid-on-your-grave
  • 1 Points
  • 17:48:17, 22 September

Yeah my relationship with my last girlfriend seemed great in public eye, mostly because of my strong "our problems are our own" policy.

But yeah, out of 8 months, that relationship was good for about 3 or 4. then not that great for 2 and then "fuck you I hate you" the last 2. But we looked great in pictures though...?

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  • autoNFA
  • 1 Points
  • 18:54:35, 22 September

It's not "gaming" your girlfriend or wife if it's how you act by default.

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  • Spindro
  • 1 Points
  • 19:06:53, 22 September

Sure, what I mean by the last sentence is that from knowing some of these guys I can't believe they are the kind of guys to exhibit red pill traits and attitudes.

I appreciate what might once have been learned as 'Game' can become internalised and is no longer a conscious effort and becomes day to day behaviour. Perhaps a poor choice of language.