Gentrification drama in /r/bayarea: "Screw them for being representative of an ideal of life that is exlusive, insular, privileged and largely catering only to others of their ilk." (np.reddit.com)

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73 comments submitted at 00:13:13 on Feb 19, 2014 by TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK

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  • prollyBannedfromHere
  • -4 Points
  • 02:34:53, 19 February

The phrase 'dog whistle' comes to mind, when these types start talking about 'gentrification'.

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  • TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK
  • 13 Points
  • 03:24:02, 19 February

Like... a dogwhistle that secretly means, "middle class white people suck"?

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  • prollyBannedfromHere
  • -7 Points
  • 04:03:47, 19 February

I'd give a proper response, but you'd probably just delete my comment like you did the last time this topic was brought up. Mumbling something about "race-baity", was it?

It's poor form for a mod to try to elicit a response so they can delete the user's comment again.

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  • TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK
  • 12 Points
  • 04:09:00, 19 February

Uhhhh... I'd totally forgotten about that (we get a lot of modmail, as you'd expect) and I don't go around replying to people's comments just so I can delete their replies to me.

As it is, yes, the comment tree of yours we deleted before was tremendously racebaity.

So yeah, you're making a bunch of flatly incorrect assumptions and presuming bad faith, don't do that

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  • prollyBannedfromHere
  • 1 Points
  • 22:40:36, 19 February

>the comment tree of yours

If you'd deleted the entire comment tree, there wouldn't have been an issue. You were very selective in which view was deleted.

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  • TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK
  • 1 Points
  • 22:43:38, 19 February

There's still not an issue because yes you were being racebaity and no that's not allowed here and no we're not going to reinstate any of the deleted comments.

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  • prollyBannedfromHere
  • 1 Points
  • 23:46:53, 19 February

If my comment was race baity, so was the comment I was responding to. The guy was literally arguing in favor of a group that was actively practicing racial discrimination.

Yet his comment was left as was. Trying to keep out white people because of a fear of property values rising is not principally different from trying to keep out black people because of a fear values will drop. Pointing out this similarity is not 'race baity'.

Even if you think the comparison is invalid, its not baiting- and if it somehow is, then certainly so is supporting racial discrimination.

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  • TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK
  • 2 Points
  • 00:15:01, 20 February

> Trying to keep out white people because of a fear of property values rising is not principally different from trying to keep out black people because of a fear values will drop.

dear mother of my holy savior, you really freakin' believe this don't you

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  • prollyBannedfromHere
  • 0 Points
  • 00:29:39, 20 February

Somebody didn't read the article.

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  • TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK
  • 3 Points
  • 00:35:58, 20 February

sigh

OK, here's the difference. I can't believe I actually have to explain this.

In one situation - whites moving into black neighborhoods - the amount of socioeconomic advantage whites have over blacks is significant. Property values increase, literally forcing blacks out of their homes.

In the other - blacks moving into white neighborhoods - the only thing that affects property values is racism, the mere existence of a black person in the neighborhood.

THAT'S THE HORSEFUCKING DIFFERENCE

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