Proposal: Autobans for anyone linked to MRA subreddits, or White Nationalist subreddits. (self.metanarchism)

metanarchism

22 ups - 11 downs = 11 votes

It's fine to have different people of different political opinions on /r/anarchism for discussion (liberals, conservatives, whatever) but MRA people are a hate group, just as much as KKK, Neo Nazis, and what have you.

If a user is found with a posting history at the MRA subreddits or WN subreddits, they should be kicked out of our radical space with no further questions, and no proposals in meta. This would make it easier to keep obvious trolls out of our subreddit while also allowing different opinions and discussion.

It is probably the best way to counter MRA invasions anyway.

65 comments submitted at 19:55:45 on Feb 7, 2013 by SamV

  • [-]
  • AngryProle
  • 8 Points
  • 05:43:16, 8 February

Assuming they were not trolling or arguing in those subs, support. I'd have called some fuckers stupid in r/mr if they hadn't banned me preemptively.

  • [-]
  • AlephBaTa
  • 8 Points
  • 01:32:54, 11 February

Apparently this is how anarchists demonstrate they'd deal with dissenting views in a free society. They'd try to eliminate them entirely. You guys aren't anarchists, just a pack of posers playing a role on the internet, not unlike kids who shop at Hot Topic to look Gothic.

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  • skob
  • 2 Points
  • 03:53:26, 11 February

Hello /r/MensRights subscribers.

  • [-]
  • Vindalfr
  • 1 Points
  • 04:24:51, 11 February

Ban this motherfucker for brigading.

  • [-]
  • AlephBaTa
  • 1 Points
  • 04:26:57, 11 February

Another poser anarchist.

  • [-]
  • Vindalfr
  • 1 Points
  • 04:39:30, 11 February

Go fuck yourself. Patriarchal shitmonger.

  • [-]
  • AlephBaTa
  • 1 Points
  • 04:52:09, 11 February

http://pigroll.com/img/saythattomyface_fucker.jpg

  • [-]
  • Vindalfr
  • 1 Points
  • 05:09:00, 11 February

Learn to format your shit. And use better memes.

  • [-]
  • Khoryos
  • 3 Points
  • 01:38:14, 11 February

>but MRA people are a hate group, just as much as KKK, Neo Nazis, and what have you.

[Citation Needed]

  • [-]
  • SamV
  • 4 Points
  • 02:16:01, 11 February

They've been listed as a hate group like, everywhere.

  • [-]
  • Khoryos
  • 2 Points
  • 02:17:32, 11 February

Then it really shouldn't be hard to prove, should it?

  • [-]
  • SamV
  • 4 Points
  • 02:20:50, 11 February

It shouldn't be something that needs to be explained in the first place then, should it?

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/myths-of-the-manosphere-lying-about-women

  • [-]
  • Bobsutan
  • 1 Points
  • 03:52:09, 11 February

Straight from the horse's mouth, the Men's Rights subreddit is not a hate group. To say so is flat out libel. Considering the men's rights movement as a whole is also equally diverse I think it's impossible, nor accurate, to say it's a hate movement. If anyone is being a bigot it's those who think men should not have equal human rights and are actively fighting against this goal.

Relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W46iTOiFm1U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rqt84yti-4

  • [-]
  • SamV
  • 0 Points
  • 03:58:22, 11 February

>Straight from the horse's mouth, the Men's Rights subreddit is not a hate group.

bumbumtiss

  • [-]
  • Khoryos
  • 0 Points
  • 02:27:00, 11 February

Both tracing to the SPLC report - a report generated with the involvement of LittleTiger, proud SRS member, so that's entirely unbiased! Care to try again?

  • [-]
  • Bobsutan
  • 1 Points
  • 03:56:43, 11 February

The editor of that report flat out said /r/mensrights is not a hate group:

http://www.dailydot.com/news/reddit-mens-rights-hate-group-splc/?=hahasrsinyourface

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  • [deleted]
  • -3 Points
  • 02:44:17, 11 February

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  • Americium
  • 3 Points
  • 03:30:17, 11 February

Yes, feminists are on a crusade, not to exterminate men, but to exterminate men's rule: patriarchy. You're no better than white supremacists claiming "there's a white genocide perpetrated by the other races!"

Stop smelling the air from your own farts.

  • [-]
  • Eulabeia
  • -2 Points
  • 03:42:49, 11 February

>feminists are on a crusade, not to exterminate men

Weird because I've seen self-proclaimed feminists who DO actually claim to want to exterminate men. Or are those not "real" feminists?

>but to exterminate men's rule

Why? Men in power usually work to benefit women over men. So what's the problem? Just the fact that they are MEN?

>You're no better than white supremacists claiming "there's a white genocide perpetrated by the other races!"

Uh, okay. Another comparison out of nowhere with no basis or explanation. Your arguments are so intellectually vapid it's like comparing everything you don't like to Hitler.

  • [-]
  • seankealiher
  • 1 Points
  • 04:56:28, 11 February

No fuck you. >Weird because I've seen self-proclaimed feminists who DO actually claim to want to exterminate men. Or are those not "real" feminists?

Alot of cis-doOds have done fucked up shit, if a woman hates all men then good on her and nobody cares

>Why? Men in power usually work to benefit women over men. So what's the problem? Just the fact that they are MEN?

Oh yeah totally, so right because you know MEN IN POWER HAVE CAUSED ALOT OF FUCKING BULLSHIT YOU SLIMEY THUNDERTAINT SHITBALL. It's called patriarchy, sit down and actually study shit. Also you can compare sexism to fascism because fascism requires rampant sexism so really you just screwed your argument with every thing you said. Also your intellectualism means shit, especially when you can't even make good valid arguments.

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  • Eulabeia
  • 1 Points
  • 04:59:30, 11 February

>if a woman hates all men then good on her

LOL, okay.

Are you 12?

  • [-]
  • seankealiher
  • 1 Points
  • 05:04:37, 11 February

Oooh ageism, please condencend me and de-validate my argument based on an assumption of age :) comon dude.

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  • [-]
  • AlephBaTa
  • -3 Points
  • 01:40:00, 11 February

Banned.

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  • Erika_Mustermann
  • 2 Points
  • 02:57:41, 11 February

support

  • [-]
  • Americium
  • 2 Points
  • 03:22:51, 11 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • Vindalfr
  • 2 Points
  • 03:52:49, 11 February

Block. Vanguardism. The logical end result of this is for the mods to ban everyone with regular posts in those reddits. This becomes less about anarchism and subreddit maintenance and more about using the organizational structure of r/@ to pick an internet fight with racists, misogynists and the like. I see that as a waste of time and resources for our volunteer mods.

If those motherfuckers bring their shit here, then yes, kick their teeth in, but this is constant drum beat for a witch-hunt using communal resources (mod time and blowback} is getting old.

  • [-]
  • skob
  • 3 Points
  • 04:00:55, 11 February

>If those motherfuckers bring their shit here

I believe that's what we're talking about. You're going to have to try harder than that.

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  • Vindalfr
  • 2 Points
  • 04:12:01, 11 February

If they bring their shit here, then its pretty uniformly a violation of the AOP and wouldn't need special treatment. This is a call for an unaccountable process, which I cannot abide.

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  • skob
  • 3 Points
  • 04:16:48, 11 February

I don't think we should approach this with SRS autoban bots or anything like that, but it's pretty obvious when they pour in en masse with just about every post about feminism (see: this one).

  • [-]
  • skob
  • 3 Points
  • 03:59:12, 11 February

Support, their vote brigading is getting out of hand. The mods there are supposed to be deleting links to subreddits with under 30k subs but it's clearly selectively enforced.

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  • andyogm
  • 1 Points
  • 04:27:49, 11 February

/r/anarchism has over 30k though. Or did you mean to meta?

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  • skob
  • 1 Points
  • 04:30:37, 11 February

I was referring to this post.

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  • andyogm
  • 1 Points
  • 04:42:26, 11 February

Ahh. Yeah, there's even a mod comment in there :\

  • [-]
  • stivlobits
  • 6 Points
  • 07:08:27, 8 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • ZakeJed
  • 2 Points
  • 01:27:22, 11 February

I'm a proud member of /r/Mensrights and a proud member of /r/anarchisim, doesn't a move like this go against anarchy? It looks like this place is turning into a dictatorship. OP should be ashamed to call himself an anarchist.

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  • Erika_Mustermann
  • 5 Points
  • 03:07:11, 11 February

> I'm a proud member of /r/Mensrights

lol that's nothing to be proud of

  • [-]
  • skob
  • 0 Points
  • 04:01:37, 11 February

Hello /r/MensRights subscribers.

  • [-]
  • Stevo_1066
  • -2 Points
  • 03:16:59, 11 February

Whoosh.

  • [-]
  • ZakeJed
  • -1 Points
  • 03:26:46, 11 February

Really? I think activism against discrimination is something to be proud of.

  • [-]
  • Vindalfr
  • 5 Points
  • 03:44:04, 11 February

But it is foolish to think that there is systemic or institutionalized oppression against men.

  • [-]
  • devtesla
  • 7 Points
  • 04:39:18, 8 February

Support

  • [-]
  • tralalabrd
  • 5 Points
  • 04:47:03, 8 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • queercoffee
  • 6 Points
  • 05:16:38, 8 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • WrlBNHtpAW
  • 4 Points
  • 06:53:40, 8 February

Support.

No platform.

  • [-]
  • danecarney
  • 5 Points
  • 14:50:38, 8 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • seankealiher
  • 5 Points
  • 14:55:42, 8 February

Support

  • [-]
  • theveganguy
  • 5 Points
  • 17:57:53, 8 February

Support.

though i'd like angryprole's concern somehow to be addressed. I support the lefty trolls!

  • [-]
  • SamV
  • 2 Points
  • 18:17:10, 8 February

Well obviously this is meant to ban pro mra people, I think the mods here have enough common sense to see the difference =P

  • [-]
  • andyogm
  • 2 Points
  • 00:05:34, 11 February

I don't know, Sam, you trolls all seem the same to me... /s :)

  • [-]
  • Sosjul
  • 2 Points
  • 23:00:46, 8 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • andyogm
  • 2 Points
  • 00:05:06, 9 February

Support. No platform.

  • [-]
  • Occupier_9000
  • 2 Points
  • 13:42:19, 9 February

support

  • [-]
  • emma_goldstandard
  • 2 Points
  • 04:40:22, 10 February

Support

  • [-]
  • Varo
  • 4 Points
  • 18:20:01, 8 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • blaxwell91
  • 0 Points
  • 02:06:20, 11 February

This is ridiculous. Mens' rights activists want equality for men, they don't hate women. And if you hate MRA's, why don't you ban womens' rights activists as well? Such a double standard.

  • [-]
  • skob
  • 1 Points
  • 03:54:33, 11 February

Hello /r/MensRights subscribers.

  • [-]
  • Bobsutan
  • -1 Points
  • 03:57:51, 11 February

Shhh! Logic is abuse, dontchaknow.

http://www.shrink4men.com/2011/10/18/an-immodest-proposal-domestic-violence-groups-claim-the-use-of-logic-by-men-is-abuse/

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  • PotatoesAndCabbages
  • 2 Points
  • 04:39:17, 11 February

Support.

  • [-]
  • ghebert001
  • 0 Points
  • 02:28:03, 11 February

Are you also going to block anyone with any association to the rad fem hub? I mean...unless you condone people who advocate eugenics being used to reduce a specific group of people down to about 10% of what it currently is?

  • [-]
  • Vindalfr
  • 1 Points
  • 03:44:32, 11 February

False equivalence.

  • [-]
  • skob
  • 1 Points
  • 03:54:24, 11 February

Hello /r/MensRights subscribers.

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  • andyogm
  • 1 Points
  • 04:35:26, 11 February

If you see any radfems breaking the AOP let us know! I don't think I've ever seen a self-identified radfem in these parts though...

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  • Stevo_1066
  • -2 Points
  • 03:19:10, 11 February

Autobanning is ridiculous. Just because a user might frequent a space you don't agree with gives you NO RIGHT to dictate whether they are allowed in our space or not.

No support.