Woman's boobs posted in /r/onoff. Owner of said boobs shows up, saying she did not authorized them to be posted here, only in /r/gonewild. Replies containing phrases like "Newsflash sweetheart" ensues. Oh, um, NSFW, if that isn't obvious. (np.reddit.com)
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83 comments submitted at 20:28:28 on Feb 18, 2014 by bluemayhem
> I'm not quite sure you understand how the internet works.
Great job, /r/OnOff moderator. As if the posters in /r/gonewild needed yet another reason to stay the hell away from this website.
I doubt there's any copyright claim here, as I would imagine there's some fair use case to be made on behalf of /r/OnOff. But the women who post to /r/gonewild are giving you free porn at no small personal risk to themselves. The least you could do is respect their wishes.
>As if the posters in /r/gonewild needed yet another reason to stay the hell away from this website.
Do you really think this is going to stop them?
This single incident? Of course not. But /r/gonewild enjoys a certain sort of reputation that makes women feel more comfortable about posting there. It has some of the most strict moderation on the entire website and the subscribers have generally learned to behave themselves. Every little thing that chips away at that sub's reputation as a place where casual, everyday women can safely get naked in front of strangers on the internet brings us closer to the time that sub becomes a garbage bin.
My point here is, 1) don't bite the hand that feeds you and 2) show a little respect for people who are literally putting it all out there for your benefit. If she doesn't want it posted in /r/OnOff, what's the harm in obliging her?
You're right, but on the same side of the coin, the moderation of /r/OnOff is not the moderation of /r/Gonewild, and the moderation of both are not responsible for what users do outside of the subreddit.
Take comfort that the user that posted it offered to take it down.
> 2) show a little respect for people who are literally putting it all out there for your benefit.
To be fair, both the posters and the viewers benefit from r/gonewild.
fair use doesn't exactly mean what you think it means
I don't pretend to understand the finer nuances of copyright law, but I don't need to pass the bar exam to understand that if that wasn't fair use of those images, then most the rest of the content which gets linked from this website would also be some sort of copyright violation.
My comment about fair use was meant to preempt that from being a point of debate, because while I don't personally think it's in dispute, that's usually the first thing a lot of people argue in cases like this.
>then most the rest of the content which gets linked from this website would also be some sort of copyright violation.
Yes and if the rights holders wanted to make an issue of it they could. Most don't however because it can be rather time consuming.
Doesn't everyone understand that if we're nice to people who post their boobs on the internet there will be more boobs on the internet?
Not masochists though. You gotta be mean to them to get anything out of 'em.
Hmm? The mod tells her exactly how to remove them. Deleting the post isn't going to do shit.
I'm going to jump to the copyright thing here for a second because you're correct about the result (she can't exercise a copyright claim) but for the wrong reason.
It's not a fair use argument by any stretch. I can go through the steps, but the most fundamental reason is because the reason for the repost (the argued infringing use) is the same as the initial post (the copyrighted work): to showcase her breasts for people to masturbate to.
So, let's talk about why her copyright claim wouldn't go anywhere.
When she posted this to imgur, and then to reddit, she would have agreed to a license (technically she agreed when she registered with reddit) which basically says "anything you post, we have a license to use."
This is important because posting the link to the imgur page is not itself an infringement. And Imgur can show the link to anyone who wants to see it because, as stated, they have that nifty license.
Thank you. I figured there was someone in here who knew what they were talking about. At least you sound like you do.