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• GovernmentsGetGfs
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• 01:02:52, 13 August

Not that good last week. Ok, I'll reply now.

I'd first like to say I didn't mean to offend you when I called you an Aspie. I just like to use a certain nickname for people. I have no idea if you're a man or a woman but I think I read you have AS somewhere so I called you that. I didn't mean anything bad by it. In fact, I usually like talking to people with AS more than with "normal" people because they're at least usually fucking logical, even if a little humorless and unable to understand sarcasm.

So, here we go...

>It's still violence based on you not having a girlfriend. That is morally wrong. Who would you commit the violence on? Either way, it's pretty bad.

I don't think any sane person will disagree with the fact that violence is usually bad and morally wrong. However, it is a fact of life that it happens.

You see, much of my conflict with people I call The Atheist Cult is centered around the fact that we disagree on what incel does and how it is solved. There are some really insane cultists who deny the situation altogether but most people are willing to accept that something like what I describe exists. Where we disagree is the problem of

1. consequences
2. treatment

TAC members believe that incel is produces no great consequences and that it is solved by therapy. These two claims are dangerous and moronic. In fact, in most people incel produces horrible consequences and therapy has no way of dealing with it but in rare cases where incel is caused solely by a mental disorder and where incel will surely go away once a mental disorder is dealt with, which is actually very rare.

In fact, incel is usually caused by complex events in the childhood, therapy is usually unable to help defeat the incel situation in itself etc.

But where we really disagree are the consequences. TAC members believe that incel can't cause violence but mental diseases can. I believe that incel can cause violence in some people, having seen it in myself and others, by producing enough frustration, despair and pain to make people violent, thereby harming their psyche.

I get called violent, an extremist, justifier of violence etc all the time because of that. People keep telling me I make threats, which is really dehumanizing. And in a sense I understand these people telling me that because they see therapy as a religion and in their minds I am the unreasonable one for not getting treatment they believe is necessary (but is in reality completely worthless in my case, as was proven by over 10 years of unsuccessful attempts with it).

Of course, these people are dangerous lunatics denying human nature. It's basic psychology that lack of romantic love and sex against somebody's will creates frustration and aggression.

So, what is really the point of your post? To tell me I'm bad for being reacting like a normal human being (though by now not being one in many other aspects)? I would commit violence out of frustration and anger due to not being able to get the things most people need to function properly, like romantic love (primarily) and sex (less important in my case and I could always pay for it).

Is that wrong? Yes, but not because I'm a bad person. Bad people are those who don't want to help me.

>Why is it so necessary? It won't stop you from being violent, and all I'm saying is that if you do something solely for pleasure, of either you or someone else, it really isn't necessary.

It won't stop me from being violent, yes. But it might somewhat slow the process. I felt better after I started seeing by fwb. Many people say I only want sex, which is nonsense. But it's also not completely irrelevant. 6 months of complete incel (no relationship, no sex) are, all other things being equal, worse that 6 months of semi-incel where you get sex but no relationship (I don't know if I could say that for the other version of semi-incel where you have a sexless romantic relationship as these situations are quite uncommon in people who are not asexual).

It is necessary because I need to have some sexual experience in order to be viable option to almost any woman. It's not as necessary as food or air but it sure as hell isn't only for pleasure. I must learn in order to retain a tiniest glimmer of hope in my bleak situation.

>Then don't be in a relationship with her: pretend or otherwise.

>Again, then don't be in a relationship with her, real or fake.

>If you really need to make up for it, then look for a relationship. You've already established that you hate having sex with this woman, if she's the ugly fat bitch you were referring to. So why do it?

I put all these final quotes of yours together to explain why I think you're not seeing the big picture here.

I HAVE LOOKED FOR A RELATIONSHIP. I have been on 20 dates this year alone. All of them failed in one way or another. Fuck, I met her while looking for a relationship.

I went on 19 unsuccessful dates from Feb to May, until I finally broke down and couldn't take failure anymore, crying, puking and almost dying in the process. And then I still went on a one more date couple of weeks ago (another failure, of course).

You get the picture? My time has run out and my situation is disastrous. I am only seeing her because I have no options but to be completely alone and sexless.

I'd want nothing more than a loving girlfriend. It's very likely not gonna happen.