Arnold Submits Question to /r/AskReddit, Mods remove it for rules violations. (self.SubredditDrama)
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http://np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1vszd9/redditwhatshouldicrush/ceviasy
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http://np.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1vtc1l/arnoldsubmitsquestiontoraskreddittextis/
164 comments submitted at 03:20:17 on Jan 22, 2014 by david-me
I understand that this ruling goes against what a lot of you think but I'll just weigh in with the reasoning.
Firstly, this was a unanimous decision. The mod who removed it (not Unholydemigod) checked with the others and we all agreed. While the reasons to keep it up are obvious, we, as a mod team, try to never moderate with a "just this once" attitude. We get so many great "just this one" cases every day. There are so many people out there with wonderful causes or really sad or inspiring stories that I'd love to break the rules for. Unfortunately, the only way to be fair to everyone is if we ignore the username.
So, I understand that many of you are angry but all we care about is being fair to all users, not just the famous ones.
> We get so many great "just this one" cases every day
Now I'm never one to hate on mods...I think mod hate is ridiculous. But honestly how many times a day do you get a celebrity in your sub asking to crush things for us?
> But honestly how many times a day do you get a celebrity in your sub asking to crush things for us?
That's a new one.
YOU TOOK THIS AWAY FROM ME. I WILL NEVER FORGET. NEVER.
Guess I'll just have to settle for this...
Edit: NSFW
Edit2: ...So I just now realized he meant crush with his tank... I figured Arnold was just gonna smash stuff for us...boy...was I way off or what.
I may be in the minority here, but thanks for this. Celebrities already have every other platform to voice their thoughts; they shouldn't get special exceptions here just because of who they are IRL.
I'm still of the opinion you guys should have just pinned it on /u/karmanaut. He's used to being blamed for everything by now.
I thought you heard, /r/askreddit is moderated by 33 karmanaut alts.
Shut yer mouth karmanaut.
OR THAT TRAITOROUS SON OF A BITCH, SNOWBALL.
MAAAAANNNNNN, FUCK SNOWBALL.
While it would been a cool thread, it would have spawned hundreds of 'Reddit, what should I crush' and similar posts, with the argument that 'well, if Arnie can do it, why can't I?'
EDIT TO ADD: He did an AMA today too. He could have included some crushing in that.
We also remove a huge number of posts from people with genuinely good causes or in horrible situations. It's hard to justify removing a post from someone asking for assistance when they have no money when we allow it for famous people.
Edit: Woops, missed a word.
Let's be honest here. /r/AskReddit is a cycle of the exact same shit every 2 months. A bunch of dudes asking the same questions, with a bunch of karmawhores chiming in as fast as they can in pursuit of approval and karma. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
I realize you are doing a lot of work to maintain the rules in that festering pile of crap full of millions of redditors, however sometimes it is better to take a stand in the pursuit of quality rather than strive for the same old mediocrity that has perpetuated for years.
> however sometimes it is better to take a stand in the pursuit of quality rather than strive for the same old mediocrity that has perpetuated for years.
Trust me, there are plenty of posts I've seen on the front page that I've wanted to remove because I thought they were not good quality. However, I don't think people want mods as arbiters of quality.
It would be really swell if mods could move a thread to a different sub.
It would definitely be good. One of the mods posted a link to the new thread but it's been downvoted into oblivion.
Oh he made a new thread? Frig. I haven't been able to find it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ArnoldSchwarzenegger/comments/1vtfuq/arnoldselectedanideafromoursubredditbuthe/
Posted by someone else. He logged off.
Awesome, thanks for the link.
Uh...now...I can comment in that link right? Like... I got it from SRD...but ...yknow...hmm
I agree with you. Celebrity worship is a bad thing.
But can crushing is a good thing.... :(
"Guys, it's safe. I removed the post by Arnold asking a question regarding his charity. Business as usual people. Masturbation and simple hypotheticals. GO.
We really dodged a bullet here, guys...."
Said nobody fucking ever.
If you think that the quality of askreddit can be improved by better questions, I strongly urge you to post some. We don't moderate the quality of content. If people want to upvote inanity, that's their right.
See also: /r/pics
Thank god we can now get back to asking reddit's consensus on when its great to hit a girl.
I think everyone understands the mentality of "it's the rules" but at the same time, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for people on reddit to interact with a famous individual that many idolize.
Your action makes it clear where the mods of that group stand. it also reminds people why they do or don't frequent that subreddit.
> I think everyone understands the mentality of "it's the rules" but at the same time, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for people on reddit to interact with a famous individual that many idolize.
Except for his multiple AMAs, regular posts on /r/fitness and the new thread made for this exact topic on /r/ArnoldSchwarzenegger. This post was advertising for a cause, plain and simple. While it may be a good cause or a fun opportunity, we don't want to be in a position where we decide which causes get to use the immense platform for free advertising.
You should get a gold medal for the mental gymnastics that allow you to think of this situation as anything other than once in a year, let alone a lifetime. You've actually convinced yourself that a huge celebrity that redditors would love to interact with(you do realize it's very hard to get a reply from Arnold, even though he's done multiple posts?) is an issue that is going to come up so often you need to take a stand. It's really amazing. I would love to get to know more about your life, I bet it's amazing.
Umm someone said "once in a lifetime." He rebutted that. I have no idea why you're getting so heated about this.
Also, >you do realize it's very hard to get a reply from Arnold, even though he's done multiple posts?
What makes you think it'll be different this time?
Agree to disagree on the first point. This is a unique situation that will never happen again, stop trying to pretend like Arnold is some average redditor. As far as the second, if Arnold did 1 billion amas, I would have a better chance of interacting with him than if he did 1000. Does that make sense? Basically as he responds more my chances of getting a response increase. When high horse mods decide to remove his post, not only does it rob me of a chance of interacting with him, it deters him from posting more. People don't come to reddit for the mods(as much as they would to believe that), if that was the case, mods wouldn't be paid less than slave shop workers in Thailand. People come to see interesting posts, mods should never even be noticed if they do their job right. I understand the temptation of pulling one over on A celebrity, especially when you have plausible deniability, but man, this is just another reminder that you have to be pretty fucking dumb to be a unpaid mod on a site like this...
Is it really that bad to not give celebrities special treatment?
It's not good or bad, it's just a stupid decision by the mods.
It's something along the lines of this.
It's still a bit ridiculous that there isn't a default subreddit clearly meant for posts like Arnold's.
With a name like "AskReddit" you'd think it'd be perfect.
Well it's kind of like /r/pics isn't for every single picture.
When your system of rules, or moderation, does not warrant the banning of weekly controversial opinion/DAE hate black ppl & feminists threads, but does lead to the removal of a thread folks were genuinely enjoying courtesy of an old man that probably doesn't much "get" the particulars of the internet, there are much deeper problems than mere consistency at play, and championing that consistency makes for a facile excuse.
If you have a suggestion for a rule change, you're always welcome to message the moderators. We've put a lot of time and effort into making them the best we can but there's always room from improvement and we'd love to hear your suggestions.
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I picture a group of autistic neckbeards who take themselves far too seriously urgently messaging one another, "summoning the council" to deal with this "urgent matter".
Basically the Stonecutters with fedoras?