/r/whiterights poster tries to use MLK day to prove some MRA point in /r/mensrights and gets called out, leading to a series of slap fights about racism and diversity hiring. (np.reddit.com)
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66 comments submitted at 23:09:06 on Jan 20, 2014 by HokesOne
>Doing something because someone is black is racism. Doing something because of the experiences you've had with other black people IS NOT racism. That's evidence based reasoning.
Wait, is there a difference between these two scenarios? Aren't these both like, the definition of racism?
Also, this is great: >It's societal, look at a white culture, then look at a black culture. Notice, one is wholesome, and good, and friendly, then notice how one is the opposite?
This is like kindergarten-level reasoning here. Literally thinks he lives in a black-and-white world.
These kinds of comments make me wonder who these posters actually are. Like, who is the person sitting behind the keyboard actually typing this shit.
This SRD thread is primed for /r/subredditdramadrama. I feel it in my loins
So far this thread has 6 posts in it (not including bot), 4 of them from /r/againstmensrights posters including OP, after 24 minutes.
edit: Not to mention /u/BetaFlight is a throwaway account from an /r/againstmensrights poster. Also, if you had to guess one redditor who calls people "honkey", who would it be?
This person? Could be, can't know but it's obvious what this thread is about.
All are welcome! ALL ARE WELCOME!
its not our fault your sub upvotes white supremacists
SRD has fallen, the populace has been displaced by SJWs
Yeah, people don't even support white supremacists any more!
The beacons are lit! SRD calls for aid!
Oh look, it's the obvious troll again.
just doing my part. :3
And of course /r/mensrights doesnt care that they have a bunch of /r/whiterights posters running around there.
real progressive movement you guys got there.
Well they both have persecution complexes so it's probably a good fit.
These are pictures of the MRA rally in Toronto
Keep in mind that Toronto is only 50% white people. I'm not really sure how white rights/MRAs/Libertarians all got intertwined, but shit like this isn't helping their image with non-whites.
Jesus. The /r/MensRights dudes seem completely sane saints compared to them.
Edit: Oh dear, he was actually upvoted for his post about just casually participating in /r/whiterights WTF THIS IS EXACTLY WHY MRA IS SOMETIMES DESPISED. You do not upvote a racist. You are supposed to call out blatant racists.
Thats their biggest PR problem. They fail at shutting up the loud crazies.
>You do not upvote a racist. You are supposed to call out blatant racists.
You do it when they're being racist. If someone isn't being racist, then I'm not going to call them out for some comment they made in another forum.
But, his bullshit about how he's not a racist, just a nice race realist WhiteRights user is a part of his racism. The propaganda arm.
Yeah, I'd downvote his arguments about being a realist WhiteRights user. But I'm not going to downvote normal everyday comments or stuff that I agree with just because the commenter is racist in another forum.
Check out those dad jeans
Portable Glory Hole Man in the third off last picture is my favourite
i never really noticed it but that young bald guy's face seems to be permanently scrunched.
It's sunny and he might be Popeye. Never seen: his whole forearm.
Wait, does this mean I get to make fun of feminists for being fat and hairy? I'm so excited, except not, because I don't do that sort of bullshit.
it was an observation. also nothing to do with his actual physiology because i looked again and there's a photo of him not squinting.
it doesn't surprise me though that someone who thinks there's a vast conspiracy in canada to enslave all men isn't bright enough to wear sunglasses.
To be fair, white men are the most oppressed in that population. Actually in most western populations.
Shaming people's bodies is totally uncool unless they're mra's right guys?
we're just pointing out that they're all white...
that isn't body shaming. it's pointing out that MRAs are a privilege denial movement with overlapping membership in other privilege denial movements.
So you find their movement unacceptable because of the color of their skin? Sounds like totally legit non-racist reasoning.
nice reaching. but no... their movement is unacceptable because it's built on delusion.
The comment makes it pretty clear it's about that all the MRAs there were white, it's not about their body type.
Is it okay to shame choice in jeans? I think mom jeans are equally reprehensible.
>You know what, fuck it, you're using the same tired excuses I've seen over and over and over, it is not institutional in the way you want it to be. It's societal, look at a white culture, then look at a black culture. Notice, one is wholesome, and good, and friendly, then notice how one is the opposite? Oh, that's institutional too? Fuck off.
I don't even know what to say about this. The fact that they post in /r/FatLogic and /r/HamPlanetHatred (terrible colour scheme in that sub btw) really isn't surprising though, they sound like a fine Human Rights activist.
It is not like their is a whole lot of research done about institutional racism. American Apartheid by Massey and Denton is a good one. Urban Outcasts: A Comparative Sociology of Advanced Marginality by Loïc Wacquant is another good one. It is quite evident by the research done on the topic that institutional racism is real and very detrimental.
>Doing something because of the experiences you've had with other black people IS NOT racism. That's evidence based reasoning.
I have no words.
Wait, I do have one word: Racist.
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>It's societal, look at a white culture, then look at a black culture. Notice, one is wholesome, and good, and friendly, then notice how one is the opposite? Oh, that's institutional too? Fuck off.
WTF is white culture? Does that mean ignorant red necks or Wall Street guys stealing money from poor people? No, I'm guessing that's not what he means.
Interestingly, as I was reading that I was eating some crappy Salisbury steak TV dinner and my fiancée was eating some tuna casserole leftovers. It was like white trash night at our house or something.
I wonder if that's the white culture he was talking about?
Is it the Ancient Greeks who believed that any woman's male relative had the right to kill her with impunity? The Vikings who killed in the name of religion, and thus were literal terrorists? Or the Russians, who had institutional serfdom all the way up until the Bolshevik revolution?
Yup, that's pretty fuckin wholesome.
> You want to know what's more employable in white males? Nearly everything, that probably looks racist, but it's true.
Only probably?
The punch I'm surprised he pulled was "nearly" everything. How generous.
I remember reading that Affirmative Action has helped and still helps the white woman more than any other minority. It's not exactly discrimination against whites if it helps whites the most.
Its true. AA has become a huge boogeyman for /r/whightRights types that overestimate its use and have a shocking amount of ignorance about something they really really hate.
Yeah I read that as well. I saw it on tumblr but I forgot to bookmark the source. :p
Edit: Nevermind. I found it. I should of just googled it. Link
This thread will in no way become a battleground for whiterights,srs,srssucks,antisrs,mra and misc.
See you guys after the shit show.
brb putting battle paint on. Going for some fly neon raver stuff
Right. This pseudodrama isn't fun at all. I'll meet you at the bar.
First round is on me.
Internet arguments about affirmative action make me want to puke. It's not a subject that people go to anonymous Internet forms to be calm and rational about.
Ah, the ever present /r/whiterights and /r/mensrights crossover; like peanut butter and chocolate.
the crossover is virtually non-existant. http://www.reddit.com/r/AnalyzingReddit/comments/1608yr/rmensrightsdrilldown5january2013/
nice try though.
I fail to see what that quote has to do with Martin Luther King Jr., except maybe that for a long time MLK thought women (especially his wife) belonged at home raising kids. But at least he was forward thinking enough to say “Women Must Be Considered as More Than Breeding Machines”
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This is actually a serious issue for /r/mensrights. Obvious /r/whiterights stuff gets down voted. Every time the two are linked /r/mensrights suffers.
all of the obvious racism has been in the positives for over 6 hours....
Oh yes, some comments sitting at +10 obviously means MR is literally the KKK. I mean, it's alright to dislike MR, but you AMR guys are just kind of deluded.
You say that but a post can literally be upvoted to +600 and people will still claim it doesn't represent /r/mensrights.
Oh boy, the scandal that is only a scandal to a small group of angry people. Kind of shitty, but not as bad as you guys made it out to be. Again, I said that it's alright to dislike MR.
There are more people in your cackling cabal jerking about this guy than anyone voting on his post.
Tell me /r/againstmensrights poster, does it benefit your jerk to up vote or down vote him?
it benefits our cackling cabal to not vote at all, so we don't. voting is a surefire way to lose your account or subreddit and kind of diminishes the point of proving that the MRM is full of the shittiest people ever.
#rekt
Every time except this time, right?
and all those times /r/MRMorWhiteRights was invented for...
God, your entire little club joined you for this one, didn't they?
don't hate me because i'm popular cutiepie.
Of course they did, they couldn't resist circlejerking about MR here.