Guy drops the f-bomb in TrollX. (np.reddit.com)

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173 comments submitted at 16:11:50 on Dec 3, 2014 by this_is_theone

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  • [deleted]
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  • 16:26:16, 3 December

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  • Delror
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  • 16:40:50, 3 December

That's such a stretch. Can you stop trying to be offended, please?

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  • [deleted]
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  • 16:45:45, 3 December

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  • DO_YOU_EVEN_LIFT_BRO
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  • 16:48:55, 3 December

I love how the goto for you people is to immediately compare a non issue with women to overt racism.

Calling women females is nothing like calling black guys boy and either you know it and are being disingenuous, or you're a lost cause.

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  • GoldieFox
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  • 16:56:14, 3 December

What? There's a totally sound parallel in the objectification.

In this case, trying to apply a term as biological as "a female" pretty much reduces a woman to some sort of alien existence only useful for reproduction.

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  • DO_YOU_EVEN_LIFT_BRO
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  • 17:09:30, 3 December

You are trying... so hard.

You're aware calling black guys boy is from slave times right? Its like saying "How DARE you tell her to stop complaining about her paper cut. Would you tell a soldier to stop crying after he stepped on a land mine?!"

Something something false equivalence fallacy.

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  • GoldieFox
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  • 17:20:22, 3 December

You're looking at the wrong aspect of the argument. I'm not saying women, at any point, were in as dire straits as black slaves, nor that calling someone "a female" makes reference to some kind of historical trauma. Don't be absurd.

Well, maybe there is a historical element to the absence of women's autonomy, but that's not my point.

My point is, referring to someone as "a female" takes away the sense of her being an equal person, just in the way that calling a black man "boy" belittles him by implying inferiority. Both suggest that the subject is not worthy of being treated as equal to a white man, putting her at a severe disadvantage. It is offensive.

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  • IfWishezWereFishez
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  • 16:58:25, 3 December

The analogy is that men will call a woman "female" in situations where they would not call a man "male." Similarly, white people will call a black person "boy" or "girl" in a situation where they would call another black person "man" or "woman." It's demeaning even if it's not intentional.

Maybe you don't live in an area where this is a fairly common occurrence, but I do.

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  • FlapjackFreddie
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  • 17:10:10, 3 December

People refer to men as males on reddit all the time. People here are a little weird, but they're fairly consistent with the male/female thing.

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  • IfWishezWereFishez
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  • 17:17:01, 3 December

In my experience, it's incredibly inconsistent, but I imagine it depends on the subreddits you frequent. It's pretty common for guys to go into AskWomen and say, "Females, why do you do X when men do Y?" or "As a man I don't understand why females do X!"

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  • FlapjackFreddie
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  • 17:20:20, 3 December

Do a search for "males" in askreddit. The last time I looked, it's actually more common than "females."

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  • IfWishezWereFishez
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  • 17:23:56, 3 December

Well, you can't just look at raw numbers. You have to look at context.

I did a search for "males" and yes, there are many more hits. But at least the ones at the top are mostly used as an adjective. "Females" has fewer hits but they're almost all used as nouns.

Still, that's just the first page of responses I'm glancing over. To get any real information you'd have to do a lot more analysis.

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  • DBrickShaw
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  • 18:03:27, 3 December

> I did a search for "males" and yes, there are many more hits. But at least the ones at the top are mostly used as an adjective.

Bullshit. Adjectives don't have a plural form, and therefore the word "males" is never an adjective in any context. "Males" could conceivably be used as a plural attributive noun, but I can't think of a single context where that would make sense. I ran my own search, and I don't see a single use of "males" as a plural attributive noun in the first 10 pages.

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  • FlapjackFreddie
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  • 17:36:47, 3 December

There are more than enough "males of reddit" or "I'm a [blank] male" to disprove the idea that redditors use "men" and "females."