I will pay you $1000, USD, if you change it back. Give the site to me, and i will mod it if you wish. Or you can mod it and change it back. This is not a joke (self.AtheismPolicy)

{AtheismPolicy}

33 ups - 22 downs = 11 votes

Deal?

70 comments submitted at 19:53:01 on Jun 20, 2013 by Realik

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  • IndulginginExistence
  • 9 Points
  • 20:01:32, 20 June

Can this be done according to reddits rules?

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  • TheRedditPope
  • 3 Points
  • 20:05:20, 20 June

No.

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  • ghastlyactions
  • 2 Points
  • 20:06:21, 20 June

Can you state specifically which of the ToS this breaks? I'm not saying it doesn't, but I'm not seeing it.

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  • intortus
  • 23 Points
  • 20:20:29, 20 June

Any sort of influence on reddit is emphatically not for sale. Empires have fallen over this issue.

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  • ghastlyactions
  • 4 Points
  • 20:21:36, 20 June

So it's not "up for sale" but it's "to whoever can grab it first" and that seems objectively better to you... not equally arbitrary?

Edit: keep in mind I'm not offering money. I'm not saying this is "the best solution." I'm saying it's equally as arbitrary as the current setup in many cases (this being one).

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  • intortus
  • 11 Points
  • 20:33:36, 20 June

Yes, reddit is a platform where anyone can build and participate in the communities they want. It's not a place for people or corporations to buy out the namespaces they want to control.

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  • ghastlyactions
  • 5 Points
  • 20:40:48, 20 June

"It's not a place for people or corporations to buy out the namespaces they want to control."

I understand how it works. I was making the point (which nobody will see now, I don't know why I keep going ;) that the current system of installing mods (such as we just witnessed) seems to be no less arbitrary. Different in mechanics, but you still get people who are "fervent" or "lucky" rather than "qualified."

I'm not trying to remake Reddit... I don't want to have people "buying influence." I was trying to bring attention to what I see as a separate but similar problem.

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  • highguy420
  • 4 Points
  • 22:35:58, 20 June

Fair and Arbitrary are not mutually exclusive concepts. Random allocation is both fair and completely arbitrary.

"First come, first served" is a very fair and arbitrary system. It would be unfair to allow people to buy influence over subreddits. That would also be arbitrary, but just because it is arbitrary that does not mean it is at all fair.

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  • ghastlyactions
  • -1 Points
  • 22:46:13, 20 June

Fair means applied equally. If we give everyone the opportunity to spend money it is fair.

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  • highguy420
  • 4 Points
  • 23:18:20, 20 June

Um. No. That's what the word "equal" means.

A "fair chance" is not equal in results, even though it is equal in opportunity. Everyone in the nation had a "fair chance" at a mining claim in the west, but only a few took the initiative to seek them out and actually claim them.

Every human being has a fair chance to register any subreddit. Some would say even an equal chance at being the first. Any human being could register any new subreddit at any given time.

As I said before "first come, first served" is a very fair, and equal policy. The patent system is based on first come, first served and it seems to be designed with "fairness" as a very strong factor in its design and purpose. They could evaluate each application and determine the candidate who is most qualified, but that itself would not be fair.

It is almost as if you do not understand the concept of fairness distinct from other ideas. The access to the opportunity is fair, not necessarily the results.

Furthermore, reddit is not fair. Some reddits are defaults. That is not fair. If you want to complain about something advocate for a new user to start with zero subscribed reddits and they are asked to subscribe to all of them that they are actually interested in. Then each subreddit would have a fair chance of gaining new users and growing on their own merits.

Maybe support a change to reddit which requires "default" subreddits to be run democratically, where moderators can be recalled and replaced with a vote from the active and subscribed members. You either run your subreddit in the public's interest, or you run a private subreddit with private rules.

Just a thought I came up with instead of arguing with you about the definition of the word "fair".

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  • ghastlyactions
  • -1 Points
  • 23:44:23, 20 June

Just like everyone has an equal chance to be first everyone has an equal chance to be richest.