Was that pizza slap video from yesterday an example of heightism? Users of varying heights in /r/short can't see eye-to-eye on the issue. (np.reddit.com)
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462 comments submitted at 12:39:18 on Oct 22, 2014 by Andy_B_Goode
I'm still in awe of that punch. He absolutely obliterates him. If he printed a screenshot of the exact moment he connected and gave it to Mike Tyson for an autograph he'd happily sign it.
Yeah, that was quite a haymaker. I don't think it qualifies as a sucker punch either, for all the people calling it one. If you slap a stranger in the face with a slice of pizza, then scurry back off to a booth to keep talking shit, it's no one's fault but your own if the punch that guy throws ends up surprising you. You can't instigate a fight and then claim you were suckered when you take your eyes off the guy.
I don't mind him punching the guy, who is a douchebag for the pizza slap and also for continuing to antagonize him afterwards. But the severity of the retaliation just seemed like too much, especially since it was a blow that couldn't be defended or prepared for. Douchebag McPizzaslapper could have gotten a concussion or broken some bones (which require expensive hospital bills) - seems a little extreme compared to what he did.
I'm all for standing up against bullies, and I realize it's on McPizzaslapper for turning his back against someone he picked a fight with. But still, clocking him THAT hard while he isn't looking, seems a little much. I think it would have been better if at least he pulled a "tap him on the shoulder THEN punch him in the face when he turns around" sort of move. Then at least McPizzaslapper could have seen the blow coming and had a chance to brace himself.
> But the severity of the retaliation just seemed like too much
Considering the act and their continued antagonizing... I suspect that was exactly what they were trying to provoke.
If not a concussion, he could have died. 90 people died in Australia alone between 2000 and 2013 as a result of these kinds of attacks. The punch, not the pizza.
Was the pizza guy a dick? Yeah. Did he deserve a punch in the face? Absolutely. Did he deserve to die? Maybe the kiddies over in /r/justiceporn would say yes. But a rational person?
Stats on "one punch can kill" deaths in Aus. http://www.smh.com.au/national/90-killed-in-singlepunch-assaults-since-2000-20131201-2yjtr.html
"Brad died doing what he loved most: talking shit and slapping strangers with pieces pizza. RIP"
a thing of beauty
> 90 people died in Australia alone between 2000 and 2013.
Ehhhhhh that doesn't seem like a big deal
>Was the pizza guy a dick? Yeah. Did he deserve a punch in the face? Absolutely.
Which is exactly what happened in the video.
To be fair, they throw a lot of punches in Australia.
Half of those were from Russell Crowe.
He's a kiwi
No shit. I've had that wrong in my head forever then.
> Douchebag McPizzaslapper could have gotten a concussion or broken some bones (which require expensive hospital bills) - seems a little extreme compared to what he did.
I hope he does, honestly. Maybe that will teach him not to go around and try to humiliate strangers for no reason, because the next guy might just stab him. Young men (who have probably been drinking) generally don't respond well to being emasculated in public and doing so and then immediately lowering all of your defenses while continuing to antagonize them is not a gameplan that will get you very far in life
> I hope he does, honestly.
Seriously? You hope he gets a concussion? Those can ruin lives, depending on the severity. Maybe it's just me, but potential brain damage doesn't seem like it's ever appropriate unless the aggressor is a complete monster.
Just because Douchebag McPizzaslapper is an idiot and a jerk now when he's young and drunk, does that make his whole future worthless? Why should he have potential long-term consequences for doing something stupid as a young adult? It's not like the pizza slap ruined the kid's life.
One point I really don't see mentioned much is if that pizza was still hot, it can cause severe burns too, though. That melted cheese can stick to your skin and keep burning it continuously. I'm not saying that happened here, but people acting like getting hit with pizza isn't that serious aren't thinking it through either. Fresh out of the oven pizza can put you in the hospital with skin grafts.
Try reading my post. I didn't say he "deserves brain damage", I said I hope he had consequences from this encounter to actually force him to learn from it, because that kind of behavior can lead to much more serious consequences than getting sucker punched. There are plenty of situations in which he would have gotten repeatedly stomped on after getting knocked out. Or simply shot/stabbed.
And you're overstating your case, pretty much everyone who plays contact sports is going to get a concussion at some point and you recover 100% as long as you rest it correctly. A minor concussion from getting punched once has almost no chance of rendering his "whole future worthless", if the human brain was that fragile we'd all be in a lot of trouble
God I love when the drama spills over in here
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u wot m8 i will knock u out
IMO, the angle of the punch, combined with the fact that he wasn't looking (and therefore had no chance to brace for impact), makes it much more likely that he'd suffer a severe concussion. You can even see him after the punch, he looks a little dazed.
Pizza Slapper should experience harsh consequences for what he did. I'm not against the physical confrontation. I just think it was wrong for the kid who retaliated to do it while he wasn't looking.
I'm confused as to how looking at the guy who's hitting you protects your brain more than just getting smacked. Unless he has enough time to get a hand up then the only thing that changes is he gets the chance to say "Oh" before nap time. Honestly, it's not like he gave pizza slap boy time to defend himself so getting cold cocked they way he did seems karmically appropriate.
Even a second of reaction time would be better than none. It gives you time to roll with the punch.
Given the slobber-knocking nature of the punch thrown, I'm not sure that matters all too much. But I guess you are technically correct.
Yeah, less idiots on the planet is a good thing, and this douche is clearly a massive one who has gotten away with shit like that for far to long.
I'd like to point out that idiots aren't the root issue because there are a fuck ton of idiots in the world. Most people could easily be labeled an idiot for on reason or another. Assholes are the real issue.
I don't condone violent retaliation for these "pranks" (ugh) but I surely wouldn't spend a ton of time being concerned for the pizza slapper beyond making sure he doesn't need medical care.
Man, somebody should have put just a bullet in Douchebag McPizzaslapper's head then, right? He's an asshole and he'll never be anything other than an asshole, so why bother letting him live?
You saw a 2-minute video of an asshole doing something stupid to somebody, and you've essentially declared him to be less than human.
It's getting awful /r/justiceporn in here.
Seriously. I unsubscribed from that cesspool for a reason. I'd really, really hate to see SRD become like that.
eh maybe he was just saying that pizzaslap never had to deal with any actual consequences, what do you bet he never does something like that to some random guy again?
I feel like that could have been accomplished without blindsiding him though. Pizza Slapper had no chance to react, and he could have been seriously injured.
His mother probably tried everything else. Some people just need a good ass kicking to set them straight.
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He put himself in the situation where he was not able to react.
What's going on with these rabid justice porn people lol. I'm on your side, mate.
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Nice try, pizza slapper
Yup, some people need killing, but whiny little bitches like you always start crying when you suggest it, which is why I didn't say it. He's a cunt through and trough, you don't get to blame it on alcohol, it just makes him say and do what he really thinks, which happens to be slapping someone with a slice of pizza and insulting him. Cunts like him should just be strung up from the nearest tree to save the human gene pool some retard genes.
I'll go ahead and say it, people like him are better off dead in the fucking ground. There I said it.
Edit: DON'T START NOTHIN', WON'T BE NOTHIN'.
Love that edit.
Wow dude this is an incredibly messed up thing to say.
Yeah a pizza slap doesn't warrant a concussion. I had a mild one before, and the risks it comes with are nothing to wish on someone. He could die, suffer from dementia, or any number of things. I do agree that the Slapper deserved a punishment, but a fair fight outside would settle things quickly.
Fair fight seemed hard to come by in that room though.
Hence why I said outside. But we can't really expect their common sense to take over in that instance. Just saying it would've been better than the haymaker.
It amuses me that this is upvoted, but if it was a woman instead of a short guy you'd be downvoted to Hell.
I'm not even sure if I even understand what you're getting at...you know that the guy who got knocked out was the tall one, right?
I'm not the guy you replied to, but I could have sworn SRD did in fact lean on the non-violence side when the dickhole in question was a woman. This isn't the exact thread I'm thinking of, but it mentions a similar incident:
http://np.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/16rfmo/alongslapfightinrmensrightsoverifa_man/c7yqx3y?context=3
> There was just a great video of a drunk girl losing her shit on a guy in a Steak and Shake. The guy grabbed her, held her by her torso while she flailed and just said "I'll let you go when you're ready to calm down." That's really all it took. He held her with one hand and didn't even have to put down his phone.
> You don't need to "deck" someone to subdue them. You don't need to escalate the situation because "she's acting like man." [+105]
It's a year old, so maybe SRD's userbase has shifted a bit since then, but it's interesting that someone who suggests that the retaliation was disproportionate is currently sitting at -23, but when discussing how much MRAs like punching women, a similar (but better written fwiw) post gets over 100 in the positive.
I'm no MRA, but I think we should know where our biases are.
Ah, I didn't watch the video. Given the comments and sub this came from I assumed the tall guy was the puncher.
>Ah, I didn't watch the video.
And what have we learned?
Fish are friends, not food. :(
There's no point in punching someone lightly.
To be honest, the guy is lucky that all he got was hit. Around here if some clown tried what he did there'd be a stabbing of a group curb stomping. I'm certainly not saying that's right but sheesh, it probably isn't wise to run around trying to start shit with random drunk strangers.
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So the brave thing to do was punch him in the head while he wasn't looking and then walk out?
Maybe I am naive, and maybe I am a pussy. I'm also a hypocrite. The only time I've ever throw legit punches in anger was on a person who was defenseless at the time. I broke his nose, and I consider it one of the most cowardly things I've ever done. Did the person I was hitting deserve to be punched? Yes, but it wasn't fair to do it while he didn't have a chance to defend himself.
Just because the Pizza-Slapper was a douchebag doesn't mean he deserves to get blindsided and possibly concussed, is all I'm saying. Regardless of what happened beforehand, that punch wasn't fair.
I understand what you're trying to say and it's well intentioned but totally, totally misplaced. What you got here are a bunch of drunk asshole teenagers, so if you try to insert high-minded civility you're gonna have a bad time. But as far as punching someone goes, and this is a good thing to remember, if you ever feel the need to hit someone, hit them so hard they can't hit you back. That's how you win a fight. That's how you win a war. In both cases, with as few moves as possible, with as little stupid side bullshit (like tapping someone on the shoulder) as possible.
Ender Wiggins knows what I'm talking about.
This is the most rational response I've seen in the whole thread. Everyone else has been just rabidly approving of a bully getting his comeuppance.
The Ender Wiggin comparison may be enough to change my view. I still think the bully got a punishment in excess of his crime, but in the context of winning the fight with as few moves as possible, the punch made logical sense.
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"Fairness" like the people around are like "oh call the fairness police that was unfair" or like the fairness police show up and arrest the puncher for an unfair punch or maybe the fairness world council passes a resolution calling a jihad on punch-guy or mayb
No personal attacks.
I somewhat agree with you. If you're gonna punch someone that pizza-slapped you gotta do right away or at least while he is still standing, that why you could at least claim self-defense from a legal standpoint were the guy to hit his head on the floor and die. Having said that, I personally wouldn't punch someone like that because i'm afraid of the legal repercussions, I just don't think it is worthy it BUT I don't think the puncher was wrong in taking his chances.
I think the guy would have let it go had slapper not started talking shit afterwards.
You're right! He almost died!
Hitting him from behind while he was sitting down is fucking cowardly that's what it is.