Drama in /r/darknetmarkets when /u/kaspercarr debates why he's not allowed to sell credit cards. (np.reddit.com)
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317 comments submitted at 13:59:24 on Oct 18, 2014 by justsome12
Drama in /r/darknetmarkets when /u/kaspercarr debates why he's not allowed to sell credit cards. (np.reddit.com)
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317 comments submitted at 13:59:24 on Oct 18, 2014 by justsome12
> Of course. Just because I sell information other people want makes me unethical?
I really, really want to hear the mental gymnastics that make selling credit card information ethical.
Later on he says:
> What if I told you I know it is wrong and will continue to do it anyways? Because that's the truth with almost all carders, why else would they do it?
What a worm.
Petit sociopaths.
Not every shitty person is mentally ill.
That's kind of the definition of mental illness isn't it?
The definition of mental illness is a shitty person? That's pretty dense.
Ok divorce yourself from the specific phrasing "shitty person" and look at the choices they make that are harmful to themselves and others. That's a mental illness.
Not really. A fully function person can decide to take drugs regardless of the consequences. The post linked to even says that if he said he knew it was wrong (and despite all his protestations otherwise, we can assume he knows it's wrong) but they just don't care.
Are you really putting people who make poor decisions on the same plane as schizophrenics or other people who suffer from true mental illness? The closest you can call it here would be sociopathic tendencies. But even then, you don't know if he does it because he doesn't care, or he does it because he's got 3 kids and a wheelchair bound wife to feed.
Too many variables for sure, but I heavily disagree with trying to chalk this up to mental illness...
I'm not sure why you're bringing up taking drugs when the person in question deals with stolen credit cards. It has nothing to do with my point so I'm not going to address it. Some people who make poor decisions can definitely be classified as mentally ill. I never said he was as ill as a schizophrenic. If you have poor impulse control you can still be classified as having a mental illness. It's an actual type of psychiatric disorder that's in the DSM-5. It's simply a failure to resist temptations that may harm oneself or other people. Mental illness is a range from easy to manage to very difficult to manage without constant psychiatric supervision and serious medication. Its a little insulting that you would say someone with a schizo-type disorder "has a true mental illness" while people with conditions that aren't as difficult to manage are what? Not really sick?! If I have a cold does that mean I'm not sick? I can only truly be sick if I'm hospitalized? Have cancer? You're drawing a dangerous line in the sand if you assume you have to have hallucinations or homicidal tendencies in order to be diagnosed with a mental illness. That's just not how it works. Whether or not he has children to feed doesn't really change the fact that he is making terrible choices that impact himself and other people. But he didn't say he did it for his kids. Someone who feels the appropriate level of guilt because they were doing it to save someone else would have just come out and said that. No he said he knows it's wrong and he doesn't care. That's a red flag. To you, that's just a shitty person. A psychiatrist looking at that would see red flags and a probable sign of underlying issues that need to be explored further. If you look at the behaviors of shitty people it's easy to see where those behaviors would classify them as having some kind of mental illness. It's how we figure out what's wrong with them in order to change the issue so they stop acting like a shitty person. But maybe my definition of a shitty person is different from how you would define it. Someone would need to fuck up royally and consistently for me to label them a shitty person instead of a person who sometimes makes bad choices. Now if you think "wait a minute you just said people who make bad choices are mentally ill" no that's not what I said. I said some people who make bad choices could be classified as mentally ill. Making bad choices doesn't automatically make someone a person shitty in my book.
Look up. See how I make a longer post, and break it into paragraphs?
See how I space it out so as to keep a rhythm, and keep the reader interested?
That's everything you didn't do. No fucking way I'm reading that wall of text.
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The credit card thief isn't making choices that are harmful to himself. He's harming others, but harming others isn't something that only the mentally ill do, especially when they do harm for some tangible benefit towards themselves. He's showing signs of being risk averse and protecting himself, he could make more money just using the stolen info, but that would open him up to being caught much more easily than stealing and selling the info. Hell, trying to justify it shows that he's not a sociopath, because they don't have the need to justify their actions. I don't understand the whole idea of any sort of antisocial behavior means that someone has a serious mental health issue or personality disorder.
sigh Anti- social personality disorder
Antisocial personality disorder is a type of chronic mental condition in which a person's ways of thinking, perceiving situations and relating to others are dysfunctional — and destructive. People with antisocial personality disorder typically have no regard for right and wrong and often disregard the rights, wishes and feelings of others.
He is displaying the textbook definition of a mental illness.
So people with mental illness are shitty?
No that's not what I said. I said he's a shitty person and that's kind of the definition of someone with a mental illness. If I say people with schizophrenia have hallucinations, that's doesn't mean that everyone who hallucinates is a schizophrenic. You're drawing correlations between what I said and what I didn't say by completely rearranging the sentence I wrote down. That's not how paraphrasing works.
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