/r/trashy debates whether your roommate is at fault if he sleeps with your girlfriend. (np.reddit.com)
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243 comments submitted at 14:55:54 on Oct 17, 2014 by Somenakedguy
/r/trashy debates whether your roommate is at fault if he sleeps with your girlfriend. (np.reddit.com)
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377 ups - 0 downs = 377 votes
243 comments submitted at 14:55:54 on Oct 17, 2014 by Somenakedguy
I can actually answer this from personal experience. Getting mad at her is called "slut shaming" and you're a massive asshole for doing that. I got screamed at by pretty much everyone I know for that every time I got cheated on and was actually mad at her instead of the guy
Oh shit... Downvotes have already started, I violated the top rule of SRD. NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES IS A WOMAN TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT SHE DOES WITHOUT A MAN TO SHOULDER BLAME TOO
No, I'm pretty sure you are being down voted because you don't know what Slut Shaming is and you have a massive persecution complex.
Yup, that's why I downvoted him.
He should know that it only counts as slut-shaming if you're shaming a 1st or 2nd degree slut. Shaming a 3rd degree slut like this girl or a 4th degree homewrecker are perfectly acceptable.
Where are the slutshaming guidelines again?
IANAL, but from what I understand:
1st degree - Not in any relationships, makes out with lots of people.
2nd degree - Not in a committed relationship but has had many sexual partners.
3rd degree - In a committed monogamous relationship, but still sleeping around.
4th degree - Married and sleeping around.
5th degree - Married with young children and sleeping around.
You can find this all on the NAASSK (National Association for the Advancement of Slut Shaming Knowledge) website.
I think anyone who anals shouldn't be slutshaming to begin with.
Stop oppressing me!
OMG, I'm sooo triggered right now!
>IANAL
You Anal?
Yes, but also I Am Not A Lawyer
I love this sub so much.
Yeah I suppose that's why I was explicitly told by tons of people I know that it's always wrong to shame a woman for expressing her sexuality as she sees fit, and I was wrong to be upset with a cheater. Had "slut shaming" thrown at me quite a bit. Also was told she isn't my property and I can't be butthurt because she chose to have sex with someone who wasn't me. In no way am I shocked to see SRD defending that notion as well.
2/10. Troll harder.
As we all know, since women can't do wrong, and the nearest man is actually to blame, any time a man has a story like this, it's just trolling. How about I cry troll on every story of catcalling? That's apparently a huge tragedy, but female cheaters and liars? Eh, troll harder LOL. In a twist shocking to nobody, SRD continues to defend abusive and manipulative female behavior
You seem angry, you should have a snickers.
I'm also not shocked that when the shit people here get called out for routinely defending abusive and manipulative women, they respond with snark
I'm shocked that you expect people to bite on the troll attempt instead of responding with snark.
Calling out shitheads defending abusive female behavior is now trolling. Wonder why women feel no shame in lying, cheating, manipulating and abusing? That's why. They do what they do because no matter what they will be defended and supported.
I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of Women? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being cheated on constantly. They watch what I do, they read my emails, and they probably snicker at the things I watch, and you act like you know oppression? Those women get cheated, sure, but the time is going to come when the US government will arrest me simply for not agreeing with them. Where men will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay a tax for women who live off welfare (lazy bitches) who won't do anything with it and will only buy drugs and cheat, even Kafka would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.
Who, exactly is defending that?
A woman shouldn't be shamed for her sexuality, but people who cheat need to be called out on their bullshit. Man or woman. And the partner who was cheated on has every right to be mad about it.
You're not getting downvotes for being cheated on or for criticizing a woman. You're getting downvoted because you're saying the concept of slut shaming extends to "criticizing a woman for cheating = bad", which it doesn't. Either everyone you know is an idiot or you seriously misinterpreted them.
It was explicitly said to me that I shouldn't be upset with a cheater because slut shaming extends to them. Anytime a woman expresses her sexuality, it is to be celebrated and defended because something something patriarchal standards blah blah blah I stopped listening to the retardation.
And again, either that person was seriously misusing those concepts or you're leaving info out. I can't really ever know which is the case, but yeah. No one who knows what they're talking about uses those concepts in that way.
You say "person" like it was just one, not dozens. I find it extremely telling that you immediately cast doubt on a story involving women doing bad things to men. A core feminist belief is that women cannot do wrong. Here, we see a major feminist/liberal publication straight up saying slut shaming extends to protecting cheaters: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1850940
Here, a news publication takes on the subject of the op http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/facebook-infidelity-humiliation/
Relevant quote: >Dude, we’ve all been there, and it really, really sucks to be cheated on, but slut-shaming your ex and calling her names on social media won’t help mend your broken heart. All it does is make you look like an even bigger piece of human garbage than your ex
Basically, yeah I guess getting cheated on sucks, wait, YOU HELD HER ACCOUNTABLE? Fucking trash
Again, I don't know all the details of what happened, so I don't know why you're getting aggressive about me not knowing them.. Either all of those people were wrong, or you misinterpreted them..
I'm leaning towards the latter seeing how you interpreted those articles. Those articles aren't defending the cheating or saying you shouldn't be angry about the cheating. They're saying it's bad that the retribution was (most important) way over the top, and (less important) focused more on shaming the woman for being sexual than for her infidelity. I think there is a subtle difference there - It's possible to be pissed at someone and call them a shitty person (which they definitely are if they're a cheater), and using language like "whore" or "tramp", since these terms are used to shame women who aren't cheaters but are very sexual as well. On it's own I personally wouldn't call that slut shaming - but when combined with the ridiculously overwhelming attention these two women received for cheating, I definitely would.
You directly quoted the part of the second article which points this difference out.
>Dude, we’ve all been there, and it really, really sucks to be cheated on, but slut-shaming your ex and calling her names on social media won’t help mend your broken heart. All it does is make you look like an even bigger piece of human garbage than your ex
I can see how you'd read this differently, but to me it pretty clearly says "it's fine to moan about how shitty cheaters are because they are shitty, but devoting significant effort to shaming them on the internet is also pretty shitty. Just move on, some people are shitty."
Anyways, I'm pretty certain you did a lot more than just call her a slut for cheating on you to make people upset, especially because you say stuff like this all the time -
>Most of them abandoned me because loyalty to gender is more important to the female than loyalty to any given man. My troubles and needs are meaningless since women view men as providers.
and
>I've yet to meet a woman who thinks a female cheating is wrong.
Idk what went down dude, but you're definitely not telling the full story. I don't really care, it's your life, but when you have this sort of attitude about women you can't really be shocked when feminists get on your case.
I am telling you the full story. You are simply incapable of recognizing that women are in fact not the embodiment of perfection. Feminists believe women cannot do wrong and deserve to always be coddled, supported and protected. It will only get worse as folks like you continually support and even celebrate abusive, manipulative, lying women(which is, well, all of them since the entitlement you support runs so deep). I do not come to this conclusion lightly. Two months ago I never would have said any of this, but the truth is too obvious to ignore now.
And yes, cheaters do deserve to be humiliated and shamed. No amount of social media name calling will ever do even half the damage a cheater does. But you believe women to be above accountability because ultimately a woman's thoughts and feelings are exponentially more important than a mans. And the cheater is supported, condoned, and coddled while I am expected to remain reverent of the flawless female
Dude, I straight up said that the woman who cheated on you, as well as the one's who criticized you if your story is accurate, were in the wrong in three separate posts now. If that's your version of being incapable of seeing women as wrong, then you have some other problems.
I think that men who cheat shouldn't be publicly humiliated to this extent either. This isn't a feminist thing, this is an adult thing - sometimes people are shitty and fuck you over. Move on. They did you wrong, doesn't mean you have to turn into an internet vigilante over it to show the entire planet.
And tell me seriously, have you come to this conclusion that all women are abusive liars as a result of this cheating event?
Not this one, but all of them. 7 girlfriends, 7 cheaters. And every one of them defended and supported. The first 6 times I bought that shit. Maybe it was wrong for me to dislike a woman making her own decisions and I was wrong for trying to tell her she could only sleep with me if she was going to be in a relationship with me. 7th time? I decided "fuck this". And not one female "friend" in my entire life has ever given a shit about me outside of what tangible benefit I immediately provide. And for the longest time I thought that's how it was just supposed to be. Now I reject that, and it doesn't sit well with the entitled bitches and their white knights
> it doesn't sit well with the entitled bitches and their white knights
please try reading my post this time around.
>Maybe it was wrong for me to dislike a woman making her own decisions and I was wrong for trying to tell her she could only sleep with me if she was going to be in a relationship with me.
I am a feminist. This is not a wrong thing to do. Monogamy is a perfectly ok thing to do and expect.
What you were experiencing is called "shitty people". They use any excuse they can to justify their shittiness.
This does not, however, make ALL women shitty people. I've similarly had quite a few relationships with women - and I have never been cheated on.
What you need to do is A) stop being bitter at all women and B) date outside the circle of people you are currently in. This will more likely than not fix your problem.
Having seven girlfriends cheat on you is EXTREMELY unusual.
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Dude, you need to stop hanging around all those straw feminists.
You mean women and their white knights right? I've yet to meet a woman who thinks a female cheating is wrong. I got crushed for thinking I "owned her and could dictate who she sleeps with". And can't forget the men who gladly serve their every whim because a woman can't do wrong
A...are you sure you guys were dating?
I'm aware that the concept of a woman doing something wrong is foreign to you, but yes, it happens, and with pretty alarming frequency too. And it will only get worse because people like you will ALWAYS stick up for the almighty and flawless female
Oh man, keep going. Sounds like Denko's ex finally grew a pair of balls (´･ω･`)