Race in TRP (self.PurplePillDebate)
19 ups - 12 downs = 7 votes
How much of the broader TRP community is openly racist? How does the "bitter pill" of awakening to essential gender differences relate to accepting essential race differences? Does TRP sexual strategy demand sexual apartheid? Are there internal contradictions between TRP's theories on feminism, gender, and race?
The "old guard" of TRP always struck me as particularly racist but I had thought TRP had moved away from this user base over time. A recent submission from an endorsed contributor's blog made the question resurface for me. The submission details how feminism is displacing the white race, and in the comment section there is an equal number of upvotes and downvotes for users "who don't want ethnic mixing anywhere" and use recognizable white nationlist talking points.
A visualization of reddit's communities reveals considerable overlap (screenshot as the page is sometimes slow to load) between r/niggers and TRP users. The antidemocratic streak found in TRP often extends beyond women's suffrage to reject other minority rights as well.
White nationalists have had considerable influence on the red pill movement. F. Roger Devlin's influence is writ large, and
> “Sexual Utopia in Power” originally ran in The Occidental Quarterly, an explicitly racist journal that described its mission as protecting “the civilization and free governments that whites have created” from the rise of the evil non-white hordes. Indeed, Devlin is on the editorial advisory board of the journal, which currently features an article on its site praising Disney’s Snow White as “a White Nationalist classic.”
> While the bulk of Devlin’s essay deals with gender, not race, it is framed — in the very first sentence — by his concern over what he calls the “catastrophic decline” of “white birthrates worldwide.”
That's notably similar to the endorsed contributor's position above.
There is psychological research that may help us understand the connection between TRP and race. For example research shows
> sexist people accept hierarchies and social inequality, they believe that different social groups have a status that they deserve, and they feel that the social class to which they belong is the best. . . . The researchers also found that sexism and racism are likely to occur in the same people.
It is also common to see TRP praise women of other races, most often framing the preference in anti-feminism. Asian women (and TRP is not alone in this), Brazilian women, Russian women and others are seen as more traditional, conservative, sexual, and/or submissive; "western women" are frequently denigrated; and a red pill icon travels the world searching for feminine women.
This seemingly contradicts core TRP principles; either feminism or "millions of years of evolution" could be responsible for women's downfall from virtue, but it cannot be an insurmountable evolutionary process if moving a few miles solves the problem, nor could feminism cause such evolutionary changes in a few decades/centuries.
TRP believes that its culture is broadly threatened by feminism/"cultural marxism" and it embraces gender hierarchy as its response. This may help us understand its overlap with racist communities, which similarly feel they face broad cultural threats and embrace hierarchies to solve.
151 comments submitted at 19:32:40 on Dec 16, 2013 by soulcakeduck