A Few Responses to Some Common Criticisms of Wifely Submission (margeryandtheman.wordpress.com)

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28 comments submitted at 16:38:52 on Jan 9, 2014 by StingrayVC

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  • danabanana9
  • 7 Points
  • 17:43:56, 9 January

i think this is great. the only part i dispute is the section about abuse. when a high dominance man is exhibiting "abusiveness", it is because his SO is vying with him for dominance. while im sure there exist evil bad men who just randomly beat sweet submissive women for no reason and then go drown puppies, i dont think thats the bulk of whats happening

i wrote about this phenomenon here http://minarchyblog.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/are-you-being-abused-or-are-you-vying-with-a-man-for-dominance/

ive never hear a woman admit that she says provocative things (i fucked your brother!)or makes provocative faces/body language (standing over him, arms akimbo) at a high dominance man. the idea that regular men just beat submissive women over nothing is ludicrous to me

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  • margerym
  • 6 Points
  • 18:35:01, 9 January

No lie, as I was typing it out I thought "Dana is going to take exception to this." It's like I know you!

Something I hope to talk about re: abuse in relationships soon/later on my blog is how the goal posts keep being moved. What is abuse and what is 'abuse'? These days a man saying "You know, I really wish you wouldn't go out with your friends tonight" is considered 'emotional abuse'. I call BS on that.

It's not that being in a sub/dom relationships is abusive it's that we're changing the "rules" so that it appears abusive.

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  • danabanana9
  • 2 Points
  • 18:37:34, 9 January

>No lie, as I was typing it out I thought "Dana is going to take exception to this." It's like I know you!

hee hee :)

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  • TempestTcup
  • 4 Points
  • 17:55:54, 9 January

My SIL was one of those chicks that would beat her SOs. Her husband divorced her because as he said, "It wasn't great when she would beat me up in private, but when she started doing it in public, I divorced her."

A few relationships later, she got beaten to a pulp by her boyfriend, and I'm pretty sure she beat him until he beat back.

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  • Vanhaydin
  • 2 Points
  • 19:09:53, 9 January

> and I'm pretty sure she beat him until he beat back.

Destructive people often attract other destructive people.

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  • [deleted]
  • 1 Points
  • 23:26:58, 9 January

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  • danabanana9
  • 2 Points
  • 23:29:09, 9 January

Why would I care if you feel embarrassed, go tell your feelings to your shrink

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  • Vanhaydin
  • 2 Points
  • 19:08:02, 9 January

While being with an overly difficult woman really sucks, I think it's important to note that your wife vying for dominance is NEVER an excuse to beat her, physically or mentally.

If she really is a difficult person to be partnered with, there are other ways to solve it. This isn't a solution at all.

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  • danabanana9
  • 2 Points
  • 19:10:26, 9 January

no one said anything about excuses. its still going to happen whether anyone excuses it or not. dont vie for dominance with a high dominance man, youll lose

edit:see, thats the kind of mentality that gets women killed. who cares if there "are other ways to solve it" or if "that's not an excuse" or a solution. none of those WORDS will STOP it from actually happening in peoples REAL every day lives. women walk around thinking these magic words protect them and they dont. go have a fight with a high dominance man and scream at him that he has a little dick, see how much he respects your nevers and solutions and shoulds. he'll hit her. stop telling women anything but DONT DO THAT. you cant control what other people are going to do, you can only control yourself and your own actions

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  • Vanhaydin
  • 1 Points
  • 19:21:02, 9 January

I know! I didn't mean that a woman's job is to spout her own dominance or anything like that. I just mean that it's inexcusable for a man to do it, just like it really sucks to have a woman beat her chest herself.

It's immature on both parts, in my opinion.

Edit to add: If one party starts to respect less of the other person, it's time to either fix it or leave. Beating your wife is a definite sign of disrespect.

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  • TempestTcup
  • 2 Points
  • 19:24:56, 9 January

LOL, we aren't talking about loving spouses suddenly hitting each other; a high dominance man could be a thug. Think Chris Brown.

Once a society starts feminizing the males and masculinizing the females, females will still be attracted to high dominance males, but since most of the GOOD ones are now beta, the women will go for thugs. Then when the women tries for dominance over the thug, she gets beaten. Thugs don't give a crap about "other ways to solve it".

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  • Vanhaydin
  • 0 Points
  • 19:30:40, 9 January

Right, then something's clearly wrong.

When your husband stops thinking about other ways to solve it, then YOU have to do it. One way to solve it is to not stick around for someone who doesn't respect you enough. :)